I'm not a big Jawaan Taylor advocate by any means, but if the folks bad-mouthing him are basing any of that from that Zach Goodall twitter thread... well...  that was some pretty terrible analysis.

I'm amazed at how many of these young upstarts on twitter that gain thousands of followers seriously don't know what they are looking at. 

I actually agree with the majority of Goodall's stuff, but that Taylor thread was very telling of either his bias against the player or his inability to analyze tackle play.  Or both.

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on topic: 

Despite the longshot nature of this signing -  I'm glad they are being proactive about placing depth trying to prevent another 2018 situation.

I haven't seen this twitter thread that you are talking about, but I am a gator fan that has seen pretty much every game of Taylor. He's good for what he is, but I highly doubt anyone watching him ever said oh yeah that's a top 10 pick right there.

Unfortunately, what he is is not what the NFL is right now. The mauling right side of the oline that might be susceptible to a good pass rush just isn't a thing anymore. He has the lowest pass blocking grade of all of PFFs top 7 or however many OL it was in that graph.

I also think he would do poor in the short shuttle too...which as Justis and Norris have shown this offseason is incredibly important for OTs. Almost or just as good of an indicator as 3 cone is for EDGE. I'm just not taking a bad positional value, whose strengths do not align with the current NFL, and didn't do any athletic testing top 10. But I fear our FO will.

While I agree that that old model of mauling RT with a pass rush weakness is now firmly out of date, I share little of the credence you are placing in shuttle times and such.  I place much more emphasis on watching these individuals play right tackle.

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I never think A RT is a good value pick in the top 10.  If he was the blind side that's one thing but not RT.  The only exception is if he is really special and Taylor is not.

That's old thinking. Left tackle still carries a higher premium, but the days of "find a fat guy and run behind him" at right tackle are over. The league has become pass-heavy and pass rushers are now as likely to come through the strong side as they are to work against the left tackle.

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I just don't see how anybody could have much confidence in a supposed top 10 OT who played at 320-330lbs, yet gets bodied around by a 230lbs Brian Burns. I understand Burns is a good player, but that just shouldn't happen, especially for a guy who is suppose to be a top 10 talent.

Then you add onto the fact that he looks like he's basically just a RT, I don't see how that kind of guy can be a top 10 talent.

Can you show me where he gets bodied by Burns?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szwGLoyU_aI

He played some of the best pass rushers in the country in Sweat, Burns, Allen, Gary, Winovich, and a few others.  I dont remeber Jawaan really getting manhadled by any of them.  Burns played on the left side early and later in the game but even Ivey had decent success against him.  Polite was the best pass rusher in that Fl St game by a good margin.  Gardner had a best of a game too.

Does "get bodied by" somehow mean "owned" because he owned Burns all game?

The only possible criticism I can draw is that maybe he could have held some of his run blocks a little longer and really finished them.

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Can you show me where he gets bodied by Burns?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szwGLoyU_aI

He played some of the best pass rushers in the country in Sweat, Burns, Allen, Gary, Winovich, and a few others.  I dont remeber Jawaan really getting manhadled by any of them.  Burns played on the left side early and later in the game but even Ivey had decent success against him.  Polite was the best pass rusher in that Fl St game by a good margin.  Gardner had a best of a game too.

There were clips going around a couple weeks ago about it and I don't really care enough to watch that 20 minute video to find the exact plays.

I'm not saying Taylor is a bad player, but he isn't a top 10 talent in this draft imo. We'd be stupid to pass up a trade down, or Hockenson, or one of the DL guys that will likely still be on the board at #7.

I think Jonah Williams and Dalton Risner are both better than Taylor and if RT is what they deem a must in the 1st round, trade down to the mid/late teens/early 20s and take one of them over reaching for Taylor.

Even then though, I think we'd be just fine with going after a RT in the 2nd/3rd/4th round honestly.

I think it would be dumb for them to take a lesser player at #7 just for the sake of taking that position, but this is the same front office who thought Fournette was a good pick at #4, so who knows.

While I agree he appears to be more of a top 20 pick than a top 10 pick, I just went through the entire 20 minutes and found no such clips.

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'02

Will have zero bearing on that

I think it means more that they're going to likely give Will Richardson every chance to lose the job at RT. I think they're higher on him than many people believe.

He was a 2nd round talent who fell in the draft due to off field concerns. They called Richardson a value pick in the 4th, much like Harrison in the 3rd.

Who says they even have Taylor high enough to even be in the consideration at #7 in the first place? It's basically all the talking heads just trying to force him to us at that spot.

Let me take a quick look at the OL now with Wester signed. Typically we'll keep nine or ten OLs, and the guys we know about are...

LT Cam Robinson, Josh Wells
LG Andrew Norwell
C Brandon Linder, Tyler Shatley
RG AJ Cann

This leaves three or four spots, and one will hopefully be filled with an OT in the first or second round (I'm thinking 2nd round)... so two or three spots.

As the backup RT, we have three contenders... Will Richardson, Cedric Ogbuehi and now Leonard Wester. One or two make the roster.

Remaining contenders for the other one or two spots are G KC McDermott and G Brandon Thomas. I imagine they'll have some competition in the form of late round draft picks or rookie UDFAs.

As for AJ Cann, there's no need to even contemplate replacing him as the starting RG. His latest contract extension says he's their starting RG this year.

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'02

The new OL coach George Warhop was in Tampa Bay with Wester. Wester was the active 3rd tackle, or swing tackle, for Tampa Bay last year on gameday. He did start at RT for 1 game last year due to an injury to the reqular starter, and, per reports, held his own. While active during the season, he played ST and a TE in the jumbo package.

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I think it means more that they're going to likely give Will Richardson every chance to lose the job at RT. I think they're higher on him than many people believe.
...

Let me take a quick look at the OL now with Wester signed. Typically we'll keep nine or ten OLs, and the guys we know about are...

LT Cam Robinson, Josh Wells
LG Andrew Norwell
C Brandon Linder, Tyler Shatley
RG AJ Cann

...

As for AJ Cann, there's no need to even contemplate replacing him as the starting RG. His latest contract extension says he's their starting RG this year.

It wasn't an extension technically, but just a new deal. 

I agree it probably means they expect him to start, but the deal makes him easy to cut prior to the 2020 season and VERY easy to cut prior to 2021.  It's also only 6 million in guaranteed money.  So - I would not rule out a situation that sees Cann's position challenged this year. 

Most are assuming a tackle will be drafted prior to the 4th round this year to compete with Richardson. 
The loser of that battle could compete for the RG spot if Warhop/Marrone wish. I hope it plays out that way.

Get the best five guys out there, and a $6 mil contract need not matter.

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Maybe Wester can be a swing tackle and TE...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxEjpSjM...e=youtu.be

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Maybe Wester can be a swing tackle and TE...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxEjpSjM...e=youtu.be

The next Guy Whimper?

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Maybe Wester can be a swing tackle and TE...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxEjpSjM...e=youtu.be

The next Guy Whimper?

Ouch. That name made me cringe a bit.

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It's only fitting that Wester went to Missouri Western

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I have a hard time seeing Taylor being a better offensive lineman in the NFL than Jonah Williams will be

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While I agree that that old model of mauling RT with a pass rush weakness is now firmly out of date, I share little of the credence you are placing in shuttle times and such.  I place much more emphasis on watching these individuals play right tackle.

That's why the first line of my post was that I was a Gator fan who has watched pretty much every game of his career.

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While I agree that that old model of mauling RT with a pass rush weakness is now firmly out of date, I share little of the credence you are placing in shuttle times and such.  I place much more emphasis on watching these individuals play right tackle.

That's why the first line of my post was that I was a Gator fan who has watched pretty much every game of his career.

"was a Gator fan"  lol, classic

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I have a hard time seeing Taylor being a better offensive lineman in the NFL than Jonah Williams will be

I was a Williams fan too until I seen him play against Ferrell.  Ferrell beat him a number of times and it made me question him against good pass rushers, Taylor played much better against the best pass rushers in this class

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That's why the first line of my post was that I was a Gator fan who has watched pretty much every game of his career.

"was a Gator fan"  lol, classic

Was, as in referencing toward my past post...which said I AM a Gator fan.

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"was a Gator fan"  lol, classic

Was, as in referencing toward my past post...which said I AM a Gator fan.

Gotcha, which games did he struggle in?  I'm gonna go check them out

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While I agree that that old model of mauling RT with a pass rush weakness is now firmly out of date, I share little of the credence you are placing in shuttle times and such.  I place much more emphasis on watching these individuals play right tackle.

That's why the first line of my post was that I was a Gator fan who has watched pretty much every game of his career.

My statement was directed to the last paragraph of your post which was universal and not specific to Taylor.

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I think it means more that they're going to likely give Will Richardson every chance to lose the job at RT. I think they're higher on him than many people believe.

He was a 2nd round talent who fell in the draft due to off field concerns. They called Richardson a value pick in the 4th, much like Harrison in the 3rd.

Who says they even have Taylor high enough to even be in the consideration at #7 in the first place? It's basically all the talking heads just trying to force him to us at that spot.

Let me take a quick look at the OL now with Wester signed. Typically we'll keep nine or ten OLs, and the guys we know about are...

LT Cam Robinson, Josh Wells
LG Andrew Norwell
C Brandon Linder, Tyler Shatley
RG AJ Cann

This leaves three or four spots, and one will hopefully be filled with an OT in the first or second round (I'm thinking 2nd round)... so two or three spots.

As the backup RT, we have three contenders... Will Richardson, Cedric Ogbuehi and now Leonard Wester. One or two make the roster.

Remaining contenders for the other one or two spots are G KC McDermott and G Brandon Thomas. I imagine they'll have some competition in the form of late round draft picks or rookie UDFAs.

As for AJ Cann, there's no need to even contemplate replacing him as the starting RG. His latest contract extension says he's their starting RG this year.

I couldn't disagree more. If we draft an OG who outplays him in the preseason, he will be replaced.

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I would officially like to welcome Montez Sweat to the Jacksonville Jaguars!

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I have a hard time seeing Taylor being a better offensive lineman in the NFL than Jonah Williams will be

Agree 1000%.

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