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Reuter final 7 round mock less than a week before the draft

#21

(04-20-2019, 07:26 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Dave drafted Yeldon in the 2nd, Harris is better than Yeldon and there is a slim chance we might be able to get him in the 3rd.  Harris is crazy underrated imo, don't even get mentioned with the top backs anymore and he might be the best one

I don't think Harris was better than Yeldon as a college back. Also would be a big surprise if anyone drafted Harris in the 2nd
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#22

(04-20-2019, 07:36 PM)JackCity Wrote:
(04-20-2019, 07:26 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Dave drafted Yeldon in the 2nd, Harris is better than Yeldon and there is a slim chance we might be able to get him in the 3rd.  Harris is crazy underrated imo, don't even get mentioned with the top backs anymore and he might be the best one

I don't think Harris was better than Yeldon as a college back. Also would be a big surprise if anyone drafted Harris in the 2nd
Drafting a RB at the top of round 2.... SMH
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#23
(This post was last modified: 04-20-2019, 07:45 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

(04-20-2019, 07:36 PM)JackCity Wrote:
(04-20-2019, 07:26 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Dave drafted Yeldon in the 2nd, Harris is better than Yeldon and there is a slim chance we might be able to get him in the 3rd.  Harris is crazy underrated imo, don't even get mentioned with the top backs anymore and he might be the best one

I don't think Harris was better than Yeldon as a college back. Also would be a big surprise if anyone drafted Harris in the 2nd

And you can say that for every other back other than Jacob's.  Yeldon didn't start his whole career at Ala and was 3rd best back his whole career.  Almost like his pro career, not to mention how over drafted he was.  He was a 4th round talent at best and 90 % on this board knew it.  I'm sure you fell in that 10% that didn't though
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#24

(04-20-2019, 07:42 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(04-20-2019, 07:36 PM)JackCity Wrote: I don't think Harris was better than Yeldon as a college back. Also would be a big surprise if anyone drafted Harris in the 2nd
Drafting a RB at the top of round 2.... SMH

Nothing wrong with taking a RB at the top of the 2nd if he was good enough but Yeldon never showed any traits in college to make you think that.  His best attribute was his blocking ability and you don't take a RB in the 2nd because of his blocking
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#25
(This post was last modified: 04-20-2019, 07:53 PM by JackCity.)

(04-20-2019, 07:43 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(04-20-2019, 07:36 PM)JackCity Wrote: I don't think Harris was better than Yeldon as a college back. Also would be a big surprise if anyone drafted Harris in the 2nd

And you can say that for every other back other than Jacob's.  Yeldon didn't start his whole career at Ala and was 3rd best back his whole career.  Almost like his pro career, not to mention how over drafted he was.  He was a 4th round talent at best and 90 % on this board knew it.  I'm sure you fell in that 10% that didn't though

It wouldn't be a big surprise for Henderson or Sanders to be drafted in the 2nd at all, in fact I'd even say it's pretty likely.

Yeldon had 3800 yards and 39 TDs in 3 seasons, Harris had 3400 and 25 in 4. And no I didn't, I wanted Duke Johnson in the 3rd or 4th
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(04-20-2019, 07:53 PM)JackCity Wrote:
(04-20-2019, 07:43 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: And you can say that for every other back other than Jacob's.  Yeldon didn't start his whole career at Ala and was 3rd best back his whole career.  Almost like his pro career, not to mention how over drafted he was.  He was a 4th round talent at best and 90 % on this board knew it.  I'm sure you fell in that 10% that didn't though

It wouldn't be a big surprise for Henderson or Sanders to be drafted in the 2nd at all, in fact I'd even say it's pretty likely.

Yeldon had 3800 yards and 39 TDs in 3 seasons, Harris had 3400 and 25 in 4. And no I didn't, I wanted Duke Johnson in the 3rd or 4th

That stat guy again lol.  Yeldon had a much better oline and Harris still has a better ypc avg.  Toby Gerhart had over 2000 yards his senior season.  As many Ala games as ive seen though i didnt realize how good of a receiver Harris is, had over 200 yards and 20 catches this past season, more than any Yeldon had had in any season and that was one of his selling points.  Would love it if we somehow came away with Harris.  That said we would probably have to take him with our 1st 3rd round pick and I dont want a RB that high
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(This post was last modified: 04-20-2019, 08:55 PM by JackCity.)

(04-20-2019, 08:43 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(04-20-2019, 07:53 PM)JackCity Wrote: It wouldn't be a big surprise for Henderson or Sanders to be drafted in the 2nd at all, in fact I'd even say it's pretty likely.

Yeldon had 3800 yards and 39 TDs in 3 seasons, Harris had 3400 and 25 in 4. And no I didn't, I wanted Duke Johnson in the 3rd or 4th

That stat guy again lol.  Yeldon had a much better oline and Harris still has a better ypc avg.  Toby Gerhart had over 2000 yards his senior season.  As many Ala games as ive seen though i didnt realize how good of a receiver Harris is, had over 200 yards and 20 catches this past season, more than any Yeldon had had in any season and that was one of his selling points.  Would love it if we somehow came away with Harris.  That said we would probably have to take him with our 1st 3rd round pick and I dont want a RB that high

I see you missed the point of the stats. You said Yeldon didn't even start his whole career at Alabama, yet he outproduced Harris. Yeldon outproduced him as a receiver too.  So it doesn't really mean much for you to knock him in that regard as you are knocking Harris too.

Harris is a solid all around back, much like Yeldon. Just not anything worth paying a 2nd rounder for, and if I was listing our RBs for the Jaguars to target he would probably finish outside the top 10
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#28
(This post was last modified: 04-20-2019, 09:05 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

(04-20-2019, 08:54 PM)JackCity Wrote:
(04-20-2019, 08:43 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: That stat guy again lol.  Yeldon had a much better oline and Harris still has a better ypc avg.  Toby Gerhart had over 2000 yards his senior season.  As many Ala games as ive seen though i didnt realize how good of a receiver Harris is, had over 200 yards and 20 catches this past season, more than any Yeldon had had in any season and that was one of his selling points.  Would love it if we somehow came away with Harris.  That said we would probably have to take him with our 1st 3rd round pick and I dont want a RB that high

I see you missed the point of the stats. You said Yeldon didn't even start his whole career at Alabama, yet he outproduced Harris. Yeldon outproduced him as a receiver too.  So it doesn't really mean much for you to knock him in that regard as you are knocking Harris too.

Harris is a solid all around back, much like Yeldon. Just not anything worth paying a 2nd rounder for, and if I was listing our RBs for the Jaguars to target he would probably finish outside the top 10

That was my point of being bringing him up and saying he is underrrated.  To say he isnt even a top 10 RB is funny to me.  I bet he is a top 5 back taken

I also bet that Harris goes on to be a starter in career, something Yeldon can never say unless he is talking about High School maybe
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#29

(04-20-2019, 09:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(04-20-2019, 08:54 PM)JackCity Wrote: I see you missed the point of the stats. You said Yeldon didn't even start his whole career at Alabama, yet he outproduced Harris. Yeldon outproduced him as a receiver too.  So it doesn't really mean much for you to knock him in that regard as you are knocking Harris too.

Harris is a solid all around back, much like Yeldon. Just not anything worth paying a 2nd rounder for, and if I was listing our RBs for the Jaguars to target he would probably finish outside the top 10

That was my point of being bringing him up and saying he is underrrated.  To say he isnt even a top 10 RB is funny to me.  I bet he is a top 5 back taken

Read a little bit. List of RBs for the Jaguars to target , which is not the same as a ranking of RBs. In the same way that a list of WRs the Jaguars should target would not be the same as my actual ranking of WRs overall
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#30
(This post was last modified: 04-20-2019, 09:08 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

Not trying to bad mouth Yeldon because I thought he had the best season of his career but to quit on the team last season was his last straw

(04-20-2019, 09:06 PM)JackCity Wrote:
(04-20-2019, 09:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: That was my point of being bringing him up and saying he is underrrated.  To say he isnt even a top 10 RB is funny to me.  I bet he is a top 5 back taken

Read a little bit. List of RBs for the Jaguars to target , which is not the same as a ranking of RBs. In the same way that a list of WRs the Jaguars should target would not be the same as my actual ranking of WRs overall

ok then, what part of Harris's game do you think takes him out of our top 10 RB rankins?
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#31

(04-20-2019, 09:06 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Not trying to bad mouth Yeldon because I thought he had the best season of his career but to quit on the team last season was his last straw

(04-20-2019, 09:06 PM)JackCity Wrote: Read a little bit. List of RBs for the Jaguars to target , which is not the same as a ranking of RBs. In the same way that a list of WRs the Jaguars should target would not be the same as my actual ranking of WRs overall

ok then, what part of Harris's game do you think takes him out of our top 10 RB rankins?

*My rankings of the RBs the Jaguars should target

Ideally the Jaguars will be looking to find space backs in this draft, so guys who can split out wide, have explosive plays, history of good production and usage as a receiving back + elusive enough to make the most of the touches you get. If they also have the size and inside running to take over if Fournette goes then all the better but they are bonus traits.  

Harris is more your standard between the tackles runner who isn't very explosive and his limited receiving generally came on screens and dump offs. Good solid back, but we need a different style for this new offense
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#32

(04-20-2019, 09:19 PM)JackCity Wrote:
(04-20-2019, 09:06 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Not trying to bad mouth Yeldon because I thought he had the best season of his career but to quit on the team last season was his last straw


ok then, what part of Harris's game do you think takes him out of our top 10 RB rankins?

*My rankings of the RBs the Jaguars should target

Ideally the Jaguars will be looking to find space backs in this draft, so guys who can split out wide, have explosive plays, history of good production and usage as a receiving back + elusive enough to make the most of the touches you get. If they also have the size and inside running to take over if Fournette goes then all the better but they are bonus traits.  

Harris is more your standard between the tackles runner who isn't very explosive and his limited receiving generally came on screens and dump offs. Good solid back, but we need a different style for this new offense

Yeah, i dont think there is any doubt thats what we will be looking for after the loss of Yeldon and Grant.  That said if a better overall back is available do you still take the elusive pass catching back or do you take the better overall back.  Either way I think we wait till later in the draft and see who falls to us.  I think Thompson is a serious target for us
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#33

(04-20-2019, 09:27 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(04-20-2019, 09:19 PM)JackCity Wrote: *My rankings of the RBs the Jaguars should target

Ideally the Jaguars will be looking to find space backs in this draft, so guys who can split out wide, have explosive plays, history of good production and usage as a receiving back + elusive enough to make the most of the touches you get. If they also have the size and inside running to take over if Fournette goes then all the better but they are bonus traits.  

Harris is more your standard between the tackles runner who isn't very explosive and his limited receiving generally came on screens and dump offs. Good solid back, but we need a different style for this new offense

Yeah, i dont think there is any doubt thats what we will be looking for after the loss of Yeldon and Grant.  That said if a better overall back is available do you still take the elusive pass catching back or do you take the better overall back.  Either way I think we wait till later in the draft and see who falls to us.  I think Thompson is a serious target for us

It's tough because there are a lot of backs I like that I wouldn't classify as filling that specific role...but could take over for Fournette and be a long time starter. So do you draft your Fournette replacement or your space back or take the best of both worlds ( but those guys are likely gone before we pick).

Yeah Thompson would be near the top. So powerful for a smaller guy too
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#34

Great draft
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#35

Can't criticize the 1st 3 picks, but I would not personally go this route. They need a better tight end than Moreau which hurts Foles' chances of success. I do think Oliver will be very good, but would have to take Hockenson due to immediate need. McGary and Thompson, however, are very good picks.
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#36

My biggest gripe was not getting a top notch TE. Other than that, it was solid.
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