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Mueller Investigation Complete
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(05-31-2019, 01:32 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:(05-31-2019, 12:48 PM)Adam2012 Wrote: Yep. Available in a bookstore (and I assume library) near you. Interesting stuff. You say that as though he's the only President to do so. Remember CREEP? Remember McCarthy? Those were both Republicans who used the government to go after their political enemies, and if you think the Bushes, Clinton and Trump haven't done/aren't doing the same thing, I have some oceanfront property in Kansas for you. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
No one's ever done this before. This isn't just surveillance of debate prep or picking up a campaign schedule. This is intelligence laundering Russian propaganda for a defacto cous de ta.
They'll say all the platitudes "higher loyalty" "reasonable suspicion" etc. This was an attempt by the elite to insure against an election result and disenfranchise 63 million americans.
The crazy thing is the historic accomplishments the Trump administration has managed to accomplish during this. The next POTUS will put back in perspective just how good Trump was. It's easy to take a good economy for granted. Be careful what you wish for.
(06-01-2019, 12:37 AM)jj82284 Wrote: No one's ever done this before. This isn't just surveillance of debate prep or picking up a campaign schedule. This is intelligence laundering Russian propaganda for a defacto cous de ta. Are you one of Hannity's staff writers? Well done - just the right tone of drama queeness. All these claims. All the ohmygod, ohmygod. No proof, no facts. And all the claims in summer of 2016 how Hillary should be investigated! And the Clown Show continues.
The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.
(06-01-2019, 08:11 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: The crazy thing is the historic accomplishments the Trump administration has managed to accomplish during this. The next POTUS will put back in perspective just how good Trump was. It's easy to take a good economy for granted. Be careful what you wish for. The President has very little real control over unemployment and inflation. Trump's actual policy changes have been minimal. Very little has gotten done in Congress, even when Republicans had both houses. The only positive he's accomplished is the judge appointments, but even there, he could have done better. Kavanaugh was a political operative for longer than he was a judge. There were better, equally conservative, resumes to choose from.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (06-01-2019, 08:45 AM)Adam2012 Wrote:Clown show and a drama queen. Hmm, sounds oddly familiar to what you post...every-single-time! FACTS(06-01-2019, 12:37 AM)jj82284 Wrote: No one's ever done this before. This isn't just surveillance of debate prep or picking up a campaign schedule. This is intelligence laundering Russian propaganda for a defacto cous de ta. Since you mention Hillary, prime example that plays into what jj just stated. She did, in fact, break the law, but her elitist status swept it under the rug. Pay to play, right? Speaking of, nah, you wouldn't believe them facts either. Hey, can you send me a copy of the Don Lemon fan club talking points? I want to get a head start on the coming weeks' comedy or uh, journalism goals. ![]()
(06-01-2019, 08:55 AM)mikesez Wrote:(06-01-2019, 08:11 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: The crazy thing is the historic accomplishments the Trump administration has managed to accomplish during this. The next POTUS will put back in perspective just how good Trump was. It's easy to take a good economy for granted. Be careful what you wish for. In Trump's case, both the corporate tax cut (congress was needed here) and the elimination of Obama-era regulations have had a significant positive effect on the job market. His trade wars have had a negative effect of the stock markets, but that should be a short term effect. Obama's regulations slowed the recovery, while the negative prime rate (by a presidential appointee) boosted the stock market. So yeah, while the economy mainly controls itself (until the socialists take over and turn the US into Venezuela), the president can have some real control. "Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?" (06-01-2019, 09:50 AM)B2hibry Wrote:(06-01-2019, 08:45 AM)Adam2012 Wrote: Are you one of Hannity's staff writers? Well done - just the right tone of drama queeness.Clown show and a drama queen. Hmm, sounds oddly familiar to what you post...every-single-time! FACTS Love your desire for selective enforcement. Not hypocritical at all. Spent all summer of 2016 pretending to care about high crimes and misdemeanors (Lock Her Up!) and here you are with all kinds of crimes - with real Russians - and not a peep. And you wonder why you're not taken seriously. HDS indeed.
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(06-01-2019, 10:42 AM)Adam2012 Wrote:(06-01-2019, 09:50 AM)B2hibry Wrote: Clown show and a drama queen. Hmm, sounds oddly familiar to what you post...every-single-time! FACTS How's that position at the DOJ treating ya? List those crimes. Oh, pass em to Nadler & Schiff, there still looking. The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming! ![]() We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(06-01-2019, 08:55 AM)mikesez Wrote:(06-01-2019, 08:11 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: The crazy thing is the historic accomplishments the Trump administration has managed to accomplish during this. The next POTUS will put back in perspective just how good Trump was. It's easy to take a good economy for granted. Be careful what you wish for. You couldn't be more wrong.
(06-01-2019, 10:42 AM)Adam2012 Wrote:(06-01-2019, 09:50 AM)B2hibry Wrote: Clown show and a drama queen. Hmm, sounds oddly familiar to what you post...every-single-time! FACTS I truly wish the House would make the Impeachment move, if only so that folks like you would get your shot and we can move on once you lose. But Nancy knows ya'll got nothin' and, sad to say, is the most astute person on your side trying to save you from yourselves. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
(06-01-2019, 11:38 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:(06-01-2019, 10:42 AM)Adam2012 Wrote: Love your desire for selective enforcement. Not hypocritical at all. Spent all summer of 2016 pretending to care about high crimes and misdemeanors (Lock Her Up!) and here you are with all kinds of crimes - with real Russians - and not a peep. And you wonder why you're not taken seriously. Notice how these liberals are trying to rebrand TDS because they are incapable of coming up with an original thought on their own? I feel bad for them.
(06-01-2019, 12:03 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:(06-01-2019, 11:38 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I truly wish the House would make the Impeachment move, if only so that folks like you would get your shot and we can move on once you lose. But Nancy knows ya'll got nothin' and, sad to say, is the most astute person on your side trying to save you from yourselves. Like Obama before, the American People are just letting them down. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (06-01-2019, 11:27 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:(06-01-2019, 08:55 AM)mikesez Wrote: The President has very little real control over unemployment and inflation. Trump's actual policy changes have been minimal. Very little has gotten done in Congress, even when Republicans had both houses. The only positive he's accomplished is the judge appointments, but even there, he could have done better. Kavanaugh was a political operative for longer than he was a judge. There were better, equally conservative, resumes to choose from. ![]()
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(06-01-2019, 11:27 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:(06-01-2019, 08:55 AM)mikesez Wrote: The President has very little real control over unemployment and inflation. Trump's actual policy changes have been minimal. Very little has gotten done in Congress, even when Republicans had both houses. The only positive he's accomplished is the judge appointments, but even there, he could have done better. Kavanaugh was a political operative for longer than he was a judge. There were better, equally conservative, resumes to choose from. I'm sure I could come up with an opinion or analysis that you disagree with even more than this one.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
(06-01-2019, 10:28 AM)MalabarJag Wrote:(06-01-2019, 08:55 AM)mikesez Wrote: The President has very little real control over unemployment and inflation. Trump's actual policy changes have been minimal. Very little has gotten done in Congress, even when Republicans had both houses. The only positive he's accomplished is the judge appointments, but even there, he could have done better. Kavanaugh was a political operative for longer than he was a judge. There were better, equally conservative, resumes to choose from. people smarter than both of us have analyzed where the money that corporations saved from the tax cut went. Almost none of it went to payrolls. Unemployment was already very low. All I'm saying is that the President's control of the economy today is very small - like a 5 or 10% effect at best. 15% to of 20% the economy is in the government's hands, however, realistically the President can't touch or change most of that. 80 to 90% of the control of how well the economy does rests with the big banks, the big corporations, and people like you and me who might have new ideas. Here's the thing: if you want to give the president more credit than just that, you should be consistent about it. You can say that Reagan or Trump did a good job for this reason, But then you have to say that Bush 41 did a bad job, And that Bill Clinton did a good job, And that Bush 43 also did a bad job, And that Obama cleaned up his mess. You have to give the Democratic party a perfect, 100% score for presidents after 1980, and mark down the Republicans with a 50% score at best, if you choose to score presidents based on how the economy does while they are in office. So I hope you can see that my approach to this question is more sensible.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
(06-01-2019, 03:36 PM)mikesez Wrote:(06-01-2019, 10:28 AM)MalabarJag Wrote: In Trump's case, both the corporate tax cut (congress was needed here) and the elimination of Obama-era regulations have had a significant positive effect on the job market. His trade wars have had a negative effect of the stock markets, but that should be a short term effect. Obama's regulations slowed the recovery, while the negative prime rate (by a presidential appointee) boosted the stock market. So yeah, while the economy mainly controls itself (until the socialists take over and turn the US into Venezuela), the president can have some real control. 41 shouldn't have raised taxes Clinton was pushed to economic success by Gingrich and the CWA 43 tried to fix the housing crisis but was rebuffed by the Congress, then we went to war Obama held back the economy for nearly 7 years with his [BLEEP] policies Trump had to push his own damn party to move I give you minus -1000 for your foolishness. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
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(06-01-2019, 03:36 PM)mikesez Wrote:(06-01-2019, 10:28 AM)MalabarJag Wrote: In Trump's case, both the corporate tax cut (congress was needed here) and the elimination of Obama-era regulations have had a significant positive effect on the job market. His trade wars have had a negative effect of the stock markets, but that should be a short term effect. Obama's regulations slowed the recovery, while the negative prime rate (by a presidential appointee) boosted the stock market. So yeah, while the economy mainly controls itself (until the socialists take over and turn the US into Venezuela), the president can have some real control. ![]() (06-01-2019, 06:33 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:(06-01-2019, 03:36 PM)mikesez Wrote: people smarter than both of us have analyzed where the money that corporations saved from the tax cut went. The economy was faltering before Bush 41 agreed to raise taxes. The only policy change Gingrich extracted from Bill Clinton was welfare reform. It was good but I don't think you're going to explain all the success of the Clinton years as being a product of welfare reform. You say Obama's regulations held the economy back. I assume that's fixed now with Trump. Which regulation was it?
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
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