Not playing is one thing, but not practicing hard to make up for it is completely different. I hope they step it up next week. There is no way they will be ready for a 1PM September day if they aren't playing or practicing hard in th4 heat.

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So no talk here about Foles telling his Eagle teammates he planned on retiring after the 2017 season due to lingering Elbow issues?

I wonder if he's still having those elbow issues and if that's one of the reasons why he doesn't throw in the off season.

Health concerns and the ability to play a full 16 game season are a huge question mark with Foles. I wonder if his elbow will hold up, or if there will be a noticeable drop off as the season wears on..

Sometimes, I wake up at 3AM and lie awake and worry about really silly stuff like whether the grass is going to get mowed or not.

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So no talk here about Foles telling his Eagle teammates he planned on retiring after the 2017 season due to lingering Elbow issues?

I wonder if he's still having those elbow issues and if that's one of the reasons why he doesn't throw in the off season.

Health concerns and the ability to play a full 16 game season are a huge question mark with Foles. I wonder if his elbow will hold up, or if there will be a noticeable drop off as the season wears on..

Sometimes, I wake up at 3AM and lie awake and worry about really silly stuff like whether the grass is going to get mowed or not.

Do you have an H.O.A that likes to act like they're the tax man from the old British days across the pond?

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Sometimes, I wake up at 3AM and lie awake and worry about really silly stuff like whether the grass is going to get mowed or not.

Do you have an H.O.A that likes to act like they're the tax man from the old British days across the pond?

Nope.  Just making a point about worrying unnecessarily.

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Do you have an H.O.A that likes to act like they're the tax man from the old British days across the pond?

Nope.  Just making a point about worrying unnecessarily.

Lucky you. The rest of us peasants have to get permission to do anything with an H.O.A. 

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Nope.  Just making a point about worrying unnecessarily.

Lucky you. The rest of us peasants have to get permission to do anything with an H.O.A. 

Is it luck?

Maybe he consciously chose not to pay ridiculous monthly or quarterly fees for a pool he or his family will never use and community amenities that just feel like a cheap apartment complex... lol

HOAs are the worst - most are corrupt - very few actually have any money in the coffers for any actual emergency.. always ask to see their finances.

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Hot day at training camp, not playing well and then Jalen jawing at you all day....its gonna happen.8

Dont have a problem with it, I want to see them compete. It feels like a real lottery checking in here lately, what will the news be today.

Im thinking we may get a Foles drive on Thursday, first 'home game', may be good to get something going. I think well rest a lot of starters again and see if the backups have improved in a week.

  As to your last paragraph, that is a no go.  Marrone announced the game this week will be approached the same way as last week.

Thanks Bullseye, I get where Marrone is coming from, especially after the last 48/72hrs.

We seem to be focusing on just getting as many healthy guys to week 1 as we can. The play them/rest them argument will have hindsight in a few weeks!!! I get the logic but the first 7 games are tough. Theres healthy and football healthy.

Just seems a real change from that first Marrone training camp. 4 straight days of pads work in the heat.

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New quarterback, new offensive coordinator, Sacrifice preseason games for reps will be answered on opening day. Was it the right call, we will find out soon enough.

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Not playing is one thing, but not practicing hard to make up for it is completely different. I hope they step it up next week. There is no way they will be ready for a 1PM September day if they aren't playing or practicing hard in th4 heat.

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From the reports I’ve seen the starters are getting like 40-50 practice reps a day to simulate gameplay without the enhanced injury risk. Lageman even mentioned this on Jags Happy Hour. Whether or not those reps are simulating gameplay is one thing. But without a doubt they are certainly practicing hard in the heat.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Lucky you. The rest of us peasants have to get permission to do anything with an H.O.A. 

Is it luck?

Maybe he consciously chose not to pay ridiculous monthly or quarterly fees for a pool he or his family will never use and community amenities that just feel like a cheap apartment complex... lol

HOAs are the worst - most are corrupt - very few actually have any money in the coffers for any actual emergency.. always ask to see their finances.

My fees aren't too bad. It's just a yearly deal for me. Thankfully. But Kingdom Management certainly does not get a vote of confidence from me and most of my neighbors.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Do you have an H.O.A that likes to act like they're the tax man from the old British days across the pond?

Nope.  Just making a point about worrying unnecessarily.

Unnecessarily??  That lawn-mowing thing is a real issue!

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New quarterback, new offensive coordinator, Sacrifice preseason games for reps will be answered on opening day. Was it the right call, we will find out soon enough.

Except they've already said Foles knows the Flip system inside and out and that he was already ahead of the rest of the offense from day one. I'm not worried about that part. 

I'd be absolutely shocked if they don't play next week. That's all I really care about.

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New quarterback, new offensive coordinator, Sacrifice preseason games for reps will be answered on opening day. Was it the right call, we will find out soon enough.

Except they've already said Foles knows the Flip system inside and out and that he was already ahead of the rest of the offense from day one. I'm not worried about that part. 

I'd be absolutely shocked if they don't play next week. That's all I really care about.

Indeed.

Healthy starters will get about a half of live action play, which is more than enough for guys like Calais, Nick, Jalen, Yan, etc.
Guys still nursing injuries (Lee, Robinson, Taylor etc) will probably be held out entire preseason.

I'd rather take this approach than starting the season missing key players v the KC Chiefs, tinhorns, and tacks.

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Is it luck?

Maybe he consciously chose not to pay ridiculous monthly or quarterly fees for a pool he or his family will never use and community amenities that just feel like a cheap apartment complex... lol

HOAs are the worst - most are corrupt - very few actually have any money in the coffers for any actual emergency.. always ask to see their finances.

My fees aren't too bad. It's just a yearly deal for me. Thankfully. But Kingdom Management certainly does not get a vote of confidence from me and most of my neighbors.

I used to have them...I mean they used to have me.

Agree a million percent.  They suck, and they love to pad the bank account of their attorney.

After needing time to get stucco repaired, sue to the vendor not being available for 6 weeks, they keep sending letters from the attorney, and tried to bill me for being in violation for something I had no control over.  

After resolving that, their attorney had the GALL to call me and ask for me to cover a case for him in St. John's County, after hearing that I happened to be there.   Pound sand man....pound sand.   Freakin' attorneys!!!!!

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Will never live anywhere with an HOA.

I wanna see Foles! More Minshew madness....

I wonder if Marquise Lee's injury changed their outlook? Try hard, trying to make a name for himself.

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Sooooooo, we rest our starters in the first two pre-season games while our second and third stringers go up against our opponents first stringers. Within the last two pre-season games we play our starters that'll go against our opponent's second and beyond stringers.

Am I mistaken by saying that they'll (our starters) be more susceptible to injuries because of the fact that opponent's third stringers and beyond will be head hunting while trying to make the 53-Man roster?

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

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Sooooooo, we rest our starters in the first two pre-season games while our second and third stringers go up against our opponents first stringers. Within the last two pre-season games we play our starters that'll go against our opponent's second and beyond stringers.

Am I mistaken by saying that they'll (our starters) be more susceptible to injuries because of the fact that opponent's third stringers and beyond will be head hunting while trying to make the 53-Man roster?

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

Just don't play them at all at this point.  I understand where you are coming from and thats why i prefer to just sit them into Week 1.  I think its dumb but it also makes sense if Foles is the best option we have and if he goes down, then its refund city for ST holders.  The only injury that matters is QB since he is the most questionable player on offense right now and the most important.  I do, however, want a refund if i'm charged to watch the backups and practice squad players for regular prices.

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2023 and still counting.....SB will finally be ours soon enough.
TLaw aka 'the prince that was promised' supporter.

Sooooooo, we rest our starters in the first two pre-season games while our second and third stringers go up against our opponents first stringers. Within the last two pre-season games we play our starters that'll go against our opponent's second and beyond stringers.

Am I mistaken by saying that they'll (our starters) be more susceptible to injuries because of the fact that opponent's third stringers and beyond will be head hunting while trying to make the 53-Man roster?

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

You are mistaken.

Week 3 will see some of our starters briefly vs the dolphins starters. 

Week 4 our starters won’t play. 

Holding starters this preseason to about 30% of the live snaps they would have played is not increasing risk. 

It is quite the opposite.

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Sooooooo, we rest our starters in the first two pre-season games while our second and third stringers go up against our opponents first stringers. Within the last two pre-season games we play our starters that'll go against our opponent's second and beyond stringers.

Am I mistaken by saying that they'll (our starters) be more susceptible to injuries because of the fact that opponent's third stringers and beyond will be head hunting while trying to make the 53-Man roster?

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

I don't think that it's a bad thing to sit front line players for the first two preseason games scrimmages.  There is really no reason to play them.  I imagine that most of them will play some in the third preseason game scrimmage and none of them in the fourth preseason game scrimmage.

It's a new concept and makes sense (at least to me) to keep them healthy and fresh when they play actual games.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

I like it, don't want to pay full price to see it but, I like it.

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