I think the Bills would be a good spot for him.  I know he talked trash about Allen but he says he wants to win so just look at their record.   A contract extension would squash the beef. a Would help them narrow the gap to the Pats

Jalen Ramsey is not going to sign off on playing for the Bills

When did Jalen Ramsey have a say in the matter?

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I have a distinct feeling that Ramsey isn't going anywhere.. I don't think teams are lining up to give 2 first round picks and realizing that they have to pay him on top of it.. I'm definitely not opposed to keeping Ramsey but if we do, I think Marrone has to go and immediately. It's almost like The Jags are asking for that much for Ramsey because they don't want to trade him. I know he's arguably the best CB in the league and I know teams have made offers, but The Jags didn't jump..

I honestly feel like he's not going anywhere and Marrone is on borrowed time.. Just my opinion..

My money is on both Ramsey and Dougie gone by the offseason.

I'm holding on to hope that Doug is gone Friday morning.. The offseason is too far down the road for my liking.

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Jalen Ramsey is not going to sign off on playing for the Bills

When did Jalen Ramsey have a say in the matter?

Because the team that's trading for him aren't gonna do it if he's not gonna play and/or sign long term. Use your brain

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Jalen Ramsey is not going to sign off on playing for the Bills

When did Jalen Ramsey have a say in the matter?

When he says he won't resign a long term deal with the team that wants to trade for him.

No team will give up the farm for Ramsey only to lose him shortly after. Keep up.

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When did Jalen Ramsey have a say in the matter?

Because the team that's trading for him aren't gonna do it if he's not gonna play and/or sign long term. Use your brain

Jalen Ramsey has no say in where we trade him. The logic is quite simple.

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When did Jalen Ramsey have a say in the matter?

When he says he won't resign a long term deal with the team that wants to trade for him.

No team will give up the farm for Ramsey only to lose him shortly after. Keep up.

Are you and Jack roommates? You should try pulling your head out of his tookus and check out the world sometime. You guys are truly pathetic.

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Well hopefully it’s just innuendo. It’s gonna be bad enough they trade him, but I feel like the Jags are gonna settle for less then two first round picks

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Because the team that's trading for him aren't gonna do it if he's not gonna play and/or sign long term. Use your brain

Jalen Ramsey has no say in where we trade him. The logic is quite simple.

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When he says he won't resign a long term deal with the team that wants to trade for him.

No team will give up the farm for Ramsey only to lose him shortly after. Keep up.

Are you and Jack roommates? You should try pulling your head out of his tookus and check out the world sometime. You guys are truly pathetic.

Ahhh the classic insult when proven wrong move. Nice one.

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Because the team that's trading for him aren't gonna do it if he's not gonna play and/or sign long term. Use your brain

Jalen Ramsey has no say in where we trade him. The logic is quite simple.

You are aware the teams trading for Ramsey would be communicating with him and his agent first right?

Like, teams don't just trade for players without talking to them first. Especially not for big deals

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I think the Bills would be a good spot for him.  I know he talked trash about Allen but he says he wants to win so just look at their record.   A contract extension would squash the beef. a Would help them narrow the gap to the Pats

So you think:

  - Lags and Leon aren't going to bad mouth a guy who just dropped a bomb on their team in short week. 

 - A pff grade from a single game for a DB during which he played zone mean something

 -  Jalen Ramsey is going to leave Jax to go to a market like, *gulp* BUFFALO ??

LOL.  Bruh, you are delusional. I said you wouldn't get it when Jack gave you some truth, and sadly,  I was right.

Since you know the teams he will play for, who are they?  He said he wants to win and Buffalo is a young and up and coming team that is a contender.  With the addition of Ramsey might put them as the 3rs best team in the AFC behind KC and NE

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So you think:

  - Lags and Leon aren't going to bad mouth a guy who just dropped a bomb on their team in short week. 

 - A pff grade from a single game for a DB during which he played zone mean something

 -  Jalen Ramsey is going to leave Jax to go to a market like, *gulp* BUFFALO ??

LOL.  Bruh, you are delusional. I said you wouldn't get it when Jack gave you some truth, and sadly,  I was right.

Since you know the teams he will play for, who are they?  He said he wants to win and Buffalo is a young and up and coming team that is a contender.  With the addition of Ramsey might put them as the 3rs best team in the AFC behind KC and NE

They don't have a need at corner.

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I think the Bills would be a good spot for him.  I know he talked trash about Allen but he says he wants to win so just look at their record.   A contract extension would squash the beef. a Would help them narrow the gap to the Pats

So you think:

  - Lags and Leon aren't going to bad mouth a guy who just dropped a bomb on their team in short week. 

 - A pff grade from a single game for a DB during which he played zone mean something

 -  Jalen Ramsey is going to leave Jax to go to a market like, *gulp* BUFFALO ??

LOL.  Bruh, you are delusional. I said you wouldn't get it when Jack gave you some truth, and sadly,  I was right.

He said he would go to the Raiders.  Do you think they are better than the Bills?

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Because the team that's trading for him aren't gonna do it if he's not gonna play and/or sign long term. Use your brain

Jalen Ramsey has no say in where we trade him. The logic is quite simple.

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Why do you think Antonio Brown ended up with the Raiders and not the titans or 'skins who were also pursuing him? 
The Raiders were offering a contract the player would agree to.  The team doesn't to go through with a trade just to be once again saddled with the player when he refuses to report to a new team. It was in both parties' interest to send him where he'd actually report for work.

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Since you know the teams he will play for, who are they?  He said he wants to win and Buffalo is a young and up and coming team that is a contender.  With the addition of Ramsey might put them as the 3rs best team in the AFC behind KC and NE

They don't have a need at corner.

White is a really good corner but if they want a chance against the Pats, Ramsey would be that missing piece.  Nobody they have can cover Brown and Ramsey has shown he can

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So you think:

  - Lags and Leon aren't going to bad mouth a guy who just dropped a bomb on their team in short week. 

 - A pff grade from a single game for a DB during which he played zone mean something

 -  Jalen Ramsey is going to leave Jax to go to a market like, *gulp* BUFFALO ??

LOL.  Bruh, you are delusional. I said you wouldn't get it when Jack gave you some truth, and sadly,  I was right.

He said he would go to the Raiders.  Do you think they are better than the Bills?

He said he'd go to "Vegas."  That should tell you what he's focused on.  
Hint: It's not the raiders being better than the bills or not.

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Well hopefully it’s just innuendo. It’s gonna be bad enough they trade him, but I feel like the Jags are gonna settle for less then two first round picks

If they settle for anything less than a team's 2020 and 2021 first round picks they all need to be fired for even entertaining any offers below that asking price.

I agree with a few other folks here though. At the minimum you want a player of equal talent or potential and roughly the same age at a position of need.

If that's a TE, OT, OLB, WR or QB plus a first round pick? Great. If not? [BLEEP] off. Walk away from the table.

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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...sey-trade/

Well hopefully it’s just innuendo. It’s gonna be bad enough they trade him, but I feel like the Jags are gonna settle for less then two first round picks

If they settle for anything less than a team's 2020 and 2021 first round picks they all need to be fired for even entertaining any offers below that asking price.

I agree with a few other folks here though. At the minimum you want a player of equal talent or potential and roughly the same age at a position of need.

If that's a TE, OT, OLB, WR or QB plus a first round pick? Great. If not? [BLEEP] off. Walk away from the table.

WR and QB is good. Minshew is a baller. DJ Charke is like a AJ Green.  Just need OT and Guards and a quick versatile RBs like a Alvin Kamara and trade away the prehistoric north/south runners of Fournette and Armstead for 7th rounders.  This offense is gonna rack up yards and points.

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Jalen Ramsey is not going to sign off on playing for the Bills

When did Jalen Ramsey have a say in the matter?

I've read conflicting information on whether or not he can refuse a trade contractually. Even if he can't contractually, he can still tell a team that he will not report, in which case they'll have given up a lot in exchange for a perpetual headache.

I still think the right answer is to keep him, play him and readdress the issue with him in the offseason after the coaching/GM/whatever change is made. Unless Marrone pulls off a miracle, his ouster is a foregone conclusion. Make Ramsey stick around the rest of the year, see how he feels about the new power structure, see if there's any interest on either side in a new contract, and then trade him if not. It's not like his trade value will tank between now and February, and in February we would know exactly where the first round pick we get for him in 2020 will be. Trading him now is going to be minimizing his value because it's well-known how much he wants out, and that's going to prompt teams to lowball, and because Caldwell is an idiot he'll take it.

If we trade Ramsey during the season, Marrone and Caldwell are both gone. Caldwell for striking out in the first round yet again, Marrone for being unable to handle Ramsey and losing the locker room in some part because of it. I still think Coughlin survives. Who knows if he said unprompted in his interview that he'd keep Caldwell and Marrone, or if he was told that one of the conditions of the job was that he keep Caldwell and that the team really couldn't afford to hire Josh McDaniels? Marrone and Caldwell are toast, Coughlin gets a chance to hire his own coach and (maybe, if he wants one) GM. Ramsey's future is tied to what he thinks of the new power structure, what they think of him, and how willing he is to remain long-term. Bringing a player like Ramsey back into the fold would do wonders for this team.

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When did Jalen Ramsey have a say in the matter?

I've read conflicting information on whether or not he can refuse a trade contractually. Even if he can't contractually, he can still tell a team that he will not report, in which case they'll have given up a lot in exchange for a perpetual headache.

I still think the right answer is to keep him, play him and readdress the issue with him in the offseason after the coaching/GM/whatever change is made. Unless Marrone pulls off a miracle, his ouster is a foregone conclusion. Make Ramsey stick around the rest of the year, see how he feels about the new power structure, see if there's any interest on either side in a new contract, and then trade him if not. It's not like his trade value will tank between now and February, and in February we would know exactly where the first round pick we get for him in 2020 will be. Trading him now is going to be minimizing his value because it's well-known how much he wants out, and that's going to prompt teams to lowball, and because Caldwell is an idiot he'll take it.

If we trade Ramsey during the season, Marrone and Caldwell are both gone. Caldwell for striking out in the first round yet again, Marrone for being unable to handle Ramsey and losing the locker room in some part because of it. I still think Coughlin survives. Who knows if he said unprompted in his interview that he'd keep Caldwell and Marrone, or if he was told that one of the conditions of the job was that he keep Caldwell and that the team really couldn't afford to hire Josh McDaniels? Marrone and Caldwell are toast, Coughlin gets a chance to hire his own coach and (maybe, if he wants one) GM. Ramsey's future is tied to what he thinks of the new power structure, what they think of him, and how willing he is to remain long-term. Bringing a player like Ramsey back into the fold would do wonders for this team.

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Fix the O-Line!

If they settle for anything less than a team's 2020 and 2021 first round picks they all need to be fired for even entertaining any offers below that asking price.

I agree with a few other folks here though. At the minimum you want a player of equal talent or potential and roughly the same age at a position of need.

If that's a TE, OT, OLB, WR or QB plus a first round pick? Great. If not? [BLEEP] off. Walk away from the table.

WR and QB is good. Minshew is a baller. DJ Charke is like a AJ Green.  Just need OT and Guards and a quick versatile RBs like a Alvin Kamara and trade away the prehistoric north/south runners of Fournette and Armstead for 7th rounders.  This offense is gonna rack up yards and points.

That or the schemes improve on offense. If you're going to live by the North/South running type philosophy you need to walk the talk too.

Does this team even have a FB anymore? Do they even carry one or use one in the offense?

Fournette lacks vision but he does have great speed once he's able to get free and build up steam. If he can't do it on his own they need to scale back the guess work for him.

I don't care if it's a twin TE set in a heavy run I formation with a FB in front of him or a trio of TE's working one side of the field with one lined up in the half position.

If it's more effective than running out of the spread formation? Do it. That's what bothers me about this team. Especially the offensive line play and scheming from the backfield.

The tinhorns are not exceptionally good at anything either. They're horrible in pass protection. But the right scheming and play calls allowed them enough wiggle room on the ground with Hyde in the line up and it was enough to keep them alive and ahead in the game.

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When did Jalen Ramsey have a say in the matter?

I've read conflicting information on whether or not he can refuse a trade contractually. Even if he can't contractually, he can still tell a team that he will not report, in which case they'll have given up a lot in exchange for a perpetual headache.

I still think the right answer is to keep him, play him and readdress the issue with him in the offseason after the coaching/GM/whatever change is made. Unless Marrone pulls off a miracle, his ouster is a foregone conclusion. Make Ramsey stick around the rest of the year, see how he feels about the new power structure, see if there's any interest on either side in a new contract, and then trade him if not. It's not like his trade value will tank between now and February, and in February we would know exactly where the first round pick we get for him in 2020 will be. Trading him now is going to be minimizing his value because it's well-known how much he wants out, and that's going to prompt teams to lowball, and because Caldwell is an idiot he'll take it.

If we trade Ramsey during the season, Marrone and Caldwell are both gone. Caldwell for striking out in the first round yet again, Marrone for being unable to handle Ramsey and losing the locker room in some part because of it. I still think Coughlin survives. Who knows if he said unprompted in his interview that he'd keep Caldwell and Marrone, or if he was told that one of the conditions of the job was that he keep Caldwell and that the team really couldn't afford to hire Josh McDaniels? Marrone and Caldwell are toast, Coughlin gets a chance to hire his own coach and (maybe, if he wants one) GM. Ramsey's future is tied to what he thinks of the new power structure, what they think of him, and how willing he is to remain long-term. Bringing a player like Ramsey back into the fold would do wonders for this team.

This is how it should be but our incompetent FO is once again gonna screw it up. 

Friday is gonna suck

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