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Poll: Who do you start?
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Foles vs Minshew (poll & merged threads)


At this point, I don't know what Foles would add statistically. Minshew has decent QB stats and doesn't throw interceptions. He needs to work on his fumbles but many of those are coming from blind-side hits. To make a change at QB for what could be a minor upgrade would be a disadvantage right now for the entire team.
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I wouldn't want to be in Coach Marrone's position when the time comes to make the decision.  It's pretty much a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of decision.

Me personally, I would stick with Minshew barring a meltdown next weekend in London.


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Minshew has the chemistry with Chark and Conley. Minshew also has much better wheels than Foles. Unless Minshew has a total melt down, stick with the rookie.

It also does not hurt that Minshew is selling tickets.
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I trust minshew,the jags trust him as well as the coaches do.  this isn't the bold part of my prediction here cause we all hopefuly belieave this. Jags find a way,and  beat texans.   

this is my bold prediction if foles takes minshews place after bye week for any non-injury reason the jags go on a loseing streak. foles is highly overrated.




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(10-29-2019, 07:48 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: I trust minshew,the jags trust him as well as the coaches do.  this isn't the bold part of my prediction here cause we all hopefuly belieave this. Jags find a way,and  beat texans.   

this is my bold prediction if foles takes minshews place after bye week for any non-injury reason the jags go on a loseing streak. foles is highly overrated.

I agree wholeheartedly. I think we need to let Minshew play it out no matter what happens, But I’m glad to have two good QBs.
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Can we just keep 2 QBs for now?

I think a premium insurance policy is nice Incase one goes down
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(This post was last modified: 10-29-2019, 09:00 PM by JagFanatic24.)

No matter what happens in London, Minshew will be the starter for the next 10-12 years.

Look at what he’s already done.
Imagine if Fournette scores that 2 pt conversion.

Oh...and he got hardly no practice with the ones during camp.
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don't get me wrong here,i think foles is a great person,hes a al around great guy,and leader of a team. I just feel he is highly overrated as a qb. Eagles had a super strong defense that super bowl season as well as lots of top srar players on offensse.




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(10-28-2019, 09:56 AM)Preach Wrote: At this point, I don't know what Foles would add statistically. Minshew has decent QB stats and doesn't throw interceptions. He needs to work on his fumbles but many of those are coming from blind-side hits. To make a change at QB for what could be a minor upgrade would be a disadvantage right now for the entire team.
The only thing would be experience and command of the playbook. If Minshew has the playbook down and they aren't limiting it, then you need to see what he has in the high pressure next 3 games. Basically 3 games on the road against the division, if he comes out playing well and the team is 2-1 then you can't replace him.

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(10-28-2019, 09:56 AM)Preach Wrote: At this point, I don't know what Foles would add statistically. Minshew has decent QB stats and doesn't throw interceptions. He needs to work on his fumbles but many of those are coming from blind-side hits. To make a change at QB for what could be a minor upgrade would be a disadvantage right now for the entire team.
not about stats

If he's put in over a healthy Minshew, it'll be about making quicker reads and quicker decisions.
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(10-30-2019, 06:31 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: don't get me wrong here,i think foles is a great person,hes a al around great guy,and leader of a team. I just feel he is highly overrated as a qb.   Eagles had a super strong defense that super bowl season as well as lots of top srar players on offensse.


I guess Foles may be a tad overrated if you were to consider him a complete QB. He's not really because he doesn't have those moves with his feet like you see with a guy like Minshew. But what he does have is by no means overrated, and that's his arm. Foles has an incredibly accurate deep pass that Minshew can't even think of matching. Foles also has that SB experience you can only obtain by getting there.

We're paying Foles one heck of a lot of money to not play should he not take over. I can go either way on the question, but I'm leaning toward putting Foles back in as soon as possible so he can get back in his groove knowing that if he falters at all we can easily bench him for the Stache.
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(10-31-2019, 11:11 AM)Jags02 Wrote:
(10-30-2019, 06:31 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: don't get me wrong here,i think foles is a great person,hes a al around great guy,and leader of a team. I just feel he is highly overrated as a qb.   Eagles had a super strong defense that super bowl season as well as lots of top srar players on offensse.


I guess Foles may be a tad overrated if you were to consider him a complete QB. He's not really because he doesn't have those moves with his feet like you see with a guy like Minshew. But what he does have is by no means overrated, and that's his arm. Foles has an incredibly accurate deep pass that Minshew can't even think of matching. Foles also has that SB experience you can only obtain by getting there.

We're paying Foles one heck of a lot of money to not play should he not take over. I can go either way on the question, but I'm leaning toward putting Foles back in as soon as possible so he can get back in his groove knowing that if he falters at all we can easily bench him for the Stache.
And by that point, maybe be out of the playoff picture.
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(10-31-2019, 11:11 AM)Jags02 Wrote:
(10-30-2019, 06:31 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: don't get me wrong here,i think foles is a great person,hes a al around great guy,and leader of a team. I just feel he is highly overrated as a qb.   Eagles had a super strong defense that super bowl season as well as lots of top srar players on offensse.


I guess Foles may be a tad overrated if you were to consider him a complete QB. He's not really because he doesn't have those moves with his feet like you see with a guy like Minshew. But what he does have is by no means overrated, and that's his arm. Foles has an incredibly accurate deep pass that Minshew can't even think of matching. Foles also has that SB experience you can only obtain by getting there.

We're paying Foles one heck of a lot of money to not play should he not take over. I can go either way on the question, but I'm leaning toward putting Foles back in as soon as possible so he can get back in his groove knowing that if he falters at all we can easily bench him for the Stache.

Foles has proven he is, at least, decent.  He has also proven that when coming off the bench with a star studded team, almost twice and playing well on both sides, he can take them the distance  Minshew in year 1 is at least decent and has proven he can play and has a high ceiling with a team that isnt as star studded and has struggled on D.  I would take the younger QB, with whom the defense has not played lights out every game, that has still found a way to keep us in games.  Foles has never shown that ability; and i don't have faith, that he is going to become a completely different QB, to keep this ship upright in an entirely different environment.  I can at least say, i admire alot of you posters blind faith in Foles.  It reminds me of religion since you have no recent events/examples to prove your theories.
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(10-31-2019, 12:48 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote:
(10-31-2019, 11:11 AM)Jags02 Wrote: I guess Foles may be a tad overrated if you were to consider him a complete QB. He's not really because he doesn't have those moves with his feet like you see with a guy like Minshew. But what he does have is by no means overrated, and that's his arm. Foles has an incredibly accurate deep pass that Minshew can't even think of matching. Foles also has that SB experience you can only obtain by getting there.

We're paying Foles one heck of a lot of money to not play should he not take over. I can go either way on the question, but I'm leaning toward putting Foles back in as soon as possible so he can get back in his groove knowing that if he falters at all we can easily bench him for the Stache.

Foles has proven he is, at least, decent.  He has also proven that when coming off the bench with a star studded team, almost twice and playing well on both sides, he can take them the distance  Minshew in year 1 is at least decent and has proven he can play and has a high ceiling with a team that isnt as star studded and has struggled on D.  I would take the younger QB, with whom the defense has not played lights out every game, that has still found a way to keep us in games.  Foles has never shown that ability; and i don't have faith, that he is going to become a completely different QB, to keep this ship upright in an entirely different environment.  I can at least say, i admire alot of you posters blind faith in Foles.  It reminds me of religion since you have no recent events/examples to prove your theories.

Please do show me someone with 'blind faith' in Foles.  

I'm curious, why is it that when people are trying to prove some point they have to exaggerate or just flat out lie?
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(10-31-2019, 12:58 PM)Rico Wrote:
(10-31-2019, 12:48 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: Foles has proven he is, at least, decent.  He has also proven that when coming off the bench with a star studded team, almost twice and playing well on both sides, he can take them the distance  Minshew in year 1 is at least decent and has proven he can play and has a high ceiling with a team that isnt as star studded and has struggled on D.  I would take the younger QB, with whom the defense has not played lights out every game, that has still found a way to keep us in games.  Foles has never shown that ability; and i don't have faith, that he is going to become a completely different QB, to keep this ship upright in an entirely different environment.  I can at least say, i admire alot of you posters blind faith in Foles.  It reminds me of religion since you have no recent events/examples to prove your theories.

Please do show me someone with 'blind faith' in Foles.  

I'm curious, why is it that when people are trying to prove some point they have to exaggerate or just flat out lie?

Easier than cobbling together a rational counterpoint apparently.
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(10-28-2019, 09:30 AM)JAGFAN88 Wrote: What if they have decided to go with Minshew, would trading Foles to someone desperate like the bears be worth it?? If we can get something in return.

It's not happening this year no matter who starts after the bye. Trading Foles is possible in the off-season, his salary is high but not ridiculously so in comparison with some other starting QBs. A more likely scenario might be to keep him on the roster an additional year as rather expensive insurance.
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(10-31-2019, 12:58 PM)Rico Wrote:
(10-31-2019, 12:48 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: Foles has proven he is, at least, decent.  He has also proven that when coming off the bench with a star studded team, almost twice and playing well on both sides, he can take them the distance  Minshew in year 1 is at least decent and has proven he can play and has a high ceiling with a team that isnt as star studded and has struggled on D.  I would take the younger QB, with whom the defense has not played lights out every game, that has still found a way to keep us in games.  Foles has never shown that ability; and i don't have faith, that he is going to become a completely different QB, to keep this ship upright in an entirely different environment.  I can at least say, i admire alot of you posters blind faith in Foles.  It reminds me of religion since you have no recent events/examples to prove your theories.

Please do show me someone with 'blind faith' in Foles.  

I'm curious, why is it that when people are trying to prove some point they have to exaggerate or just flat out lie?

LOL.  So where's the lie?  When has foles lead a team to success that didn't have star players helping lighten the load, plus a defense holding their own?  Where's the exaggeration, I'll wait?  Whats really funny is you act like you just got here today and havent read any post or debates about Foles needing to be put back at QB and/or why.  Welcome to the MB and feel free to read and catch up on the daily debates on duvalpride.com.

(10-31-2019, 01:05 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(10-31-2019, 12:58 PM)Rico Wrote: Please do show me someone with 'blind faith' in Foles.  

I'm curious, why is it that when people are trying to prove some point they have to exaggerate or just flat out lie?

Easier than cobbling together a rational counterpoint apparently.

I guess you agree as well and have nothing to disagree with. Maybe i'm lost and posting in the wrong thread. We are literally in a thread, including a poll about whether to go with Foles or Minshew, and i'm exaggerating a point/making stuff up. The irony and intellect on this board is amazing.
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(10-31-2019, 01:41 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote:
(10-31-2019, 12:58 PM)Rico Wrote: Please do show me someone with 'blind faith' in Foles.  

I'm curious, why is it that when people are trying to prove some point they have to exaggerate or just flat out lie?

LOL.  So where's the lie?  When has foles lead a team to success that didn't have star players helping lighten the load, plus a defense holding their own?  Where's the exaggeration, I'll wait?  Whats really funny is you act like you just got here today and havent read any post or debates about Foles needing to be put back at QB and/or why.  Welcome to the MB and feel free to read and catch up on the daily debates on duvalpride.com.

(10-31-2019, 01:05 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Easier than cobbling together a rational counterpoint apparently.

I guess you agree as well and have nothing to disagree with.  Maybe i'm lost and posting in the wrong thread.  We are literally in a thread, including a poll about whether to go with Foles or Minshew, and i'm exaggerating a point/making stuff up.  The irony and intellect on this board is amazing.

He bolded it for you.  When another poster quotes you and bolds a portion of your post, you should consider that the topic at hand. 

I'll spell it out for you. 

You falsely asserted that a number of posters have an almost religious blind faith in Foles.

That assertion, like 90% of your posting, is complete and utter horse [BLEEP]. 

Who here has exhibited "blind faith" in Foles?  

I'll wait.
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Playing Devil's Advocate....

Maybe he's saying based on what we've seen him do on our team any one saying he should be the starter is basing it on blind faith?

I honestly don't know.

My only thing about him is his inability to stay healthy. Whether that's his fault or bad luck.. it still seems true.
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Geez, what a genius. The last two seasons don't count because he didn't win all the games without any help lol.

I was ok with the Foles signing because I was pretty convinced that our defense was all-world and Foles gave us the best chance to win now. I also expected some ups and downs with the offense in the first half of the season before Foles and company had a chance to really gel.
The D isn't quite as good as it was supposed to be, and we don't have time for Foles to build up rapport with the offense at this point in the season. If the Rook plays well and we win in London, I say lets roll with Minshew. But then again, Foles' specialty of late has been coming in off the bench and getting on a roll in the second half of the season.
Glad I don't have to make the decision.
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