A former Jag on a 1010 show yesterday summed it up well by saying that Minshew simply had a rookie day. All football players have them. Usually the best remedy is the next game when the player has a chance at redemption. Unfortunately, barring another Foles injury, yesterday was most likely Minshew’s last game of 2019.

It sucks he has to end the season on this note. As another poster pointed out, the NFL is not replete with QB success stories of being benched and coming back stronger. However, I truly believe Minshew will be an exception. He has the talent, both physically and mentally, and now some experience. Continue to develop him until the Foles train runs out. He will be our ace-in-the-hole, and a guarantee that we will not have to use one of our high draft picks on a QB.

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A former Jag on a 1010 show yesterday summed it up well by saying that Minshew simply had a rookie day. All football players have them. Usually the best remedy is the next game when the player has a chance at redemption. Unfortunately, barring another Foles injury, yesterday was most likely Minshew’s last game of 2019.

It sucks he has to end the season on this note. As another poster pointed out, the NFL is not replete with QB success stories of being benched and coming back stronger. However, I truly believe Minshew will be an exception. He has the talent, both physically and mentally, and now some experience. Continue to develop him until the Foles train runs out. He will be our ace-in-the-hole, and a guarantee that we will not have to use one of our high draft picks on a QB.

I think sitting for awhile behind Foles may be good for him at this juncture. 

I really do see potential to become a franchise guy in the kid. Only a few things he'll need to fix up in his game and getting a cleaner pocket to work in will really help. 

• I wouldn't try to totally break him of moving laterally out of the pocket, but he needs to be able to operate without doing that more consistently. I'd drill him on stepping up rather than out more, but the o-line plays a hand in this too. He's got to have a pocket to step into. 
  
• His diligence to make reads on most of his snaps is great for a rookie, but it needs to be a beat or two quicker. Holding the ball over 3 seconds as often as he does is going to create protection issues for even very good o -linemen at times. A few too many forced into coverage as well - which just won't work with his velocity. 
  
• There's still a marked difference between "poised 15" and "rattled 15" when it comes to his footwork.  That'll have to level out. 
  
• Might need some help seeing throwing lanes in the middle of the field.  Height is a factor, but likely the playbook designed for Foles also is playing a hand in this issue too. Either way, needs improvement. 
  

None of this stuff seems insurmountable to me. 

It's not a really long list and I think he can improve these things. Hoping to see a more experienced and prepared version of him again this year or next. I'm fine letting it play out. He's an asset to the team.

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I Foles doesn't start the next game I'll be shocked.

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A former Jag on a 1010 show yesterday summed it up well by saying that Minshew simply had a rookie day. All football players have them. Usually the best remedy is the next game when the player has a chance at redemption. Unfortunately, barring another Foles injury, yesterday was most likely Minshew’s last game of 2019.

It sucks he has to end the season on this note. As another poster pointed out, the NFL is not replete with QB success stories of being benched and coming back stronger. However, I truly believe Minshew will be an exception. He has the talent, both physically and mentally, and now some experience. Continue to develop him until the Foles train runs out. He will be our ace-in-the-hole, and a guarantee that we will not have to use one of our high draft picks on a QB.

I think sitting for awhile behind Foles may be good for him at this juncture. 

I really do see potential to become a franchise guy in the kid. Only a few things he'll need to fix up in his game and getting a cleaner pocket to work in will really help. 

• I wouldn't try to totally break him of moving laterally out of the pocket, but he needs to be able to operate without doing that more consistently. I'd drill him on stepping up rather than out more, but the o-line plays a hand in this too. He's got to have a pocket to step into. 
  
• His diligence to make reads on most of his snaps is great for a rookie, but it needs to be a beat or two quicker. Holding the ball over 3 seconds as often as he does is going to create protection issues for even very good o -linemen at times. A few too many forced into coverage as well - which just won't work with his velocity. 
  
• There's still a marked difference between "poised 15" and "rattled 15" when it comes to his footwork.  That'll have to level out. 
  
• Might need some help seeing throwing lanes in the middle of the field.  Height is a factor, but likely the playbook designed for Foles also is playing a hand in this issue too. Either way, needs improvement. 
  

None of this stuff seems insurmountable to me. 

It's not a really long list and I think he can improve these things. Hoping to see a more experienced and prepared version of him again this year or next. I'm fine letting it play out. He's an asset to the team.

Good analysis points. I agree, the kid is money in the bank.

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We have no choice at this point but to start Foles if he is healthy enough to be productive. It may also benefit Minshew to watch the game from the sidelines to see if he can pinpoint other things that he may not be able to see in real-time from behind the center.

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I Foles doesn't start the next game I'll be shocked.

 I think it’s a no brainer you have to go with foles To see what he brings to the offense.

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They are going to go with Foles because this coaching staff can't afford to have the rookie games like yesterday. Their jobs are on the line (most likely) and starting the vet (even though starting the rookie makes sense for the long haul) gives them a better chance at keeping their jobs. If Foles and company lose the next two games, I would like to see Minshew finish out the season.

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They are going to go with Foles because this coaching staff can't afford to have the rookie games like yesterday. Their jobs are on the line (most likely) and starting the vet (even though starting the rookie makes sense for the long haul) gives them a better chance at keeping their jobs. If Foles and company lose the next two games, I would like to see Minshew finish out the season.

I agree with this.  If Foles doesn't provide that spark of hope that most seem to believe he will, let GM finish the season and see if he has learned anything during his time off.

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Season Tix, Section 409

2023 and still counting.....SB will finally be ours soon enough.
TLaw aka 'the prince that was promised' supporter.

Foles may start but I doubt he finishes. Minshew has not been scrambling for the hell of it. It has been out of necessity. Foles will not be able to elude the collapsing pockets as Minshew has done. He is statuesque back there. That along with his proclivity for injury does not bold well for him to remain healthy IMO. Not a knock on him by any means just the feeling I get when thinking of him in the game.

Probably depends on how he has looked at practice as to whether or not he starts.

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I don’t think they’ll go back to Minshew they have millions of dollars tied up in Foles end it makes sense to let him finish the year to get a decent body of work to evaluate his play at the quarterback position.

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This "spark of hope" stuff is nonsense. GM15 already provided that, he's done exceedingly more than anyone thought he would. If he's the future then the future is now, if he's not then go with Foles and draft a new QB this year.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Foles may start but I doubt he finishes. Minshew has not been scrambling for the hell of it. It has been out of necessity. Foles will not be able to elude the collapsing pockets as Minshew has done. He is statuesque back there. That along with his proclivity for injury does not bold well for him to remain healthy IMO. Not a knock on him by any means just the feeling I get when thinking of him in the game.

Probably depends on how he has looked at practice as to whether or not he starts.

Foles Will have to get the ball out quicker to avoid the rush to be successful. We know we can’t move around out of the pocket like Minshew so that’s the only way he will be successful atThe quarterback position.

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They are going to go with Foles because this coaching staff can't afford to have the rookie games like yesterday. Their jobs are on the line (most likely) and starting the vet (even though starting the rookie makes sense for the long haul) gives them a better chance at keeping their jobs. If Foles and company lose the next two games, I would like to see Minshew finish out the season.

I agree with this.  If Foles doesn't provide that spark of hope that most seem to believe he will, let GM finish the season and see if he has learned anything during his time off.

Funny, when the season started, I fully expected Foles to need several games to actually start gelling with this offense considering all the newness for him and the team.  Dude definitely doesn't have that luxury now.

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This "spark of hope" stuff is nonsense. GM15 already provided that, he's done exceedingly more than anyone thought he would. If he's the future then the future is now, if he's not then go with Foles and draft a new QB this year.

I want to let GM continue to play but someone already pointed out that this FO may have the itch due to the hotseat.  Foles is here, and if we fail and they sit him, then it looks bad.  If we fail and he plays, then it just shows that they need to be fired for wasting time and money.  I'm interested to see if im wrong about Foles as well honestly.  I've doubted him since day one and pray that i'm wrong so we can have some postseason fun.  If i'm right then oh well.  Same stuff just a different day.

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Season Tix, Section 409

2023 and still counting.....SB will finally be ours soon enough.
TLaw aka 'the prince that was promised' supporter.

This "spark of hope" stuff is nonsense. GM15 already provided that, he's done exceedingly more than anyone thought he would. If he's the future then the future is now, if he's not then go with Foles and draft a new QB this year.

Minshew’s  play has Been record-breaking and should result in our franchise quarterback Of the future. With millions of dollars tied up inFoles we need to find out if he will be the starting quarterback the next two years, Or if we start Minshew next year.

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This "spark of hope" stuff is nonsense. GM15 already provided that, he's done exceedingly more than anyone thought he would. If he's the future then the future is now, if he's not then go with Foles and draft a new QB this year.

Minshew’s  play has Been record-breaking and should result in our franchise quarterback Of the future. With millions of dollars tied up inFoles we need to find out if he will be the starting quarterback the next two years, Or if we start Minshew next year.

If Minshew is the guy then why wait? Move on from Foles now and roll with Minshew.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

The real problem is the offense of line. They are terrible in the run game and only average in pass protection that makes it very difficult for any quarterback to have success. We need to address the offense of line in the off-season. I think our tackles will be fineBut the guard positions just aren’t getting it done. Until we fix the offense of line we’re gonna have a hard time making the postseason.

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Minshew’s  play has Been record-breaking and should result in our franchise quarterback Of the future. With millions of dollars tied up inFoles we need to find out if he will be the starting quarterback the next two years, Or if we start Minshew next year.

If Minshew is the guy then why wait? Move on from Foles now and roll with Minshew.

Because they are trying to save their jobs.

I think it should be Minshew but knowing this FO/coaching staff, it's going to be Foles.

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They are going to go with Foles because this coaching staff can't afford to have the rookie games like yesterday. Their jobs are on the line (most likely) and starting the vet (even though starting the rookie makes sense for the long haul) gives them a better chance at keeping their jobs. If Foles and company lose the next two games, I would like to see Minshew finish out the season.

Jags fan conundrum.... Foles comes in, staff wins more games.... saves their jobs...
Back at it next year with Doug, Wash, and Flip (though I don't hate Flip really) when many people want a change. And as much as I'm a "don't change for the sake of changing" kind of guy. I'm tired of seeing BoB pencil whip our staff no matter who the OC/DC is. 

If Foles can't go 1-1 against clots and tacks, we're pretty much toast in playoff hunt and I think we should definitely get Minshew more reps.
However, I don't think they flip flop... Foles will finish season barring injury, imo.

And then tough off season decisions with his cap hit and everything.

I just want to enjoy the games, which for the most part I have. Yesterday was hard to watch and the first game I turned off before it was actually over. (after the 2 bad ref calls and the blown FG try followed by the tinhorns marching down, I was over it)

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Minshew’s  play has Been record-breaking and should result in our franchise quarterback Of the future. With millions of dollars tied up inFoles we need to find out if he will be the starting quarterback the next two years, Or if we start Minshew next year.

If Minshew is the guy then why wait? Move on from Foles now and roll with Minshew.

I think many (not all) fans figure "just roll with Minshew and let him earn his lumps"
But the staff knows experience helps win games, and Foles has that.

He also a knack for coming into the season late and winning (twice in Philly, once ending in a SB MVP)
They're hoping and praying for some of that to save their [BLEEP].
The coach staff doesn't think about the future, they think about the now... Especially a staff that could be on it's last legs.

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They are going to go with Foles because this coaching staff can't afford to have the rookie games like yesterday. Their jobs are on the line (most likely) and starting the vet (even though starting the rookie makes sense for the long haul) gives them a better chance at keeping their jobs. If Foles and company lose the next two games, I would like to see Minshew finish out the season.

Jags fan conundrum.... Foles comes in, staff wins more games.... saves their jobs...
Back at it next year with Doug, Wash, and Flip (though I don't hate Flip really) when many people want a change. And as much as I'm a "don't change for the sake of changing" kind of guy. I'm tired of seeing BoB pencil whip our staff no matter who the OC/DC is. 

If Foles can't go 1-1 against clots and tacks, we're pretty much toast in playoff hunt and I think we should definitely get Minshew more reps.
However, I don't think they flip flop... Foles will finish season barring injury, imo.

And then tough off season decisions with his cap hit and everything.

I just want to enjoy the games, which for the most part I have. Yesterday was hard to watch and the first game I turned off before it was actually over. (after the 2 bad ref calls and the blown FG try followed by the tinhorns marching down, I was over it)

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If Minshew is the guy then why wait? Move on from Foles now and roll with Minshew.

I think many (not all) fans figure "just roll with Minshew and let him earn his lumps"
But the staff knows experience helps win games, and Foles has that.

He also a knack for coming into the season late and winning (twice in Philly, once ending in a SB MVP)
They're hoping and praying for some of that to save their [BLEEP].
The coach staff doesn't think about the future, they think about the now... Especially a staff that could be on it's last legs.

Ronster just heard you! Better run!

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