Jacobs back on the strong side may help the run defense a little bit. 
If we actually use the SAM at all.  

The way the league is going offensively a base defense with three 4-3 linebackers is not going to get lots of use. 
Makes me wonder if Williams could maybe have a future role as a SS hybrid player in a big-nickel or dime package if he doesn't become the long term starter at Will. 
Of course this would assume a different coordinator in Jax.  I don't see Wash getting that creative with the talent on hand unfortunately.

That's a good point. O's will try to get LB's in mismatches with TE's and RB's and with their size and speed now, it's hard to find guys who can do it all and it does seem the attitude has been speed can cover mistakes. Speed can cover bad coverage. I'm not sure how much nickel we have run and Hayden has had a solid year so far, the nickel shouldnt be more effective in run D than a SAM LB.

I always felt the Steelers 'Blitzbugh' D system was a solid base system to build around. 3-4 look, theyd send at least 5 guys every time, who and where they would be coming from youd never know and just tight man outside and 2 safeties deep. It got pressure on QB's, OL's struggled to know where to protect, man coverage made the QB hold more giving DL more time. I like the idea of having a base system that can do the things we want and then the players we add can give you the chance to adapt and innovate it to be even more effective. That's something I put against Wash I'm afraid, hes had a very talented group and for a few years but I dont see much of a unique playbook hes been able to build.

We run nickel instead of base most of the time largely as just a basic response to opponents lining up with multiple receivers whether they are running or passing.  
While base should (on paper) be more effective vs the run, you have to respond to the opponents personnel in kind, so nickel gets the nod frequently out of coverage necessity.

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That's a good point. O's will try to get LB's in mismatches with TE's and RB's and with their size and speed now, it's hard to find guys who can do it all and it does seem the attitude has been speed can cover mistakes. Speed can cover bad coverage. I'm not sure how much nickel we have run and Hayden has had a solid year so far, the nickel shouldnt be more effective in run D than a SAM LB.

I always felt the Steelers 'Blitzbugh' D system was a solid base system to build around. 3-4 look, theyd send at least 5 guys every time, who and where they would be coming from youd never know and just tight man outside and 2 safeties deep. It got pressure on QB's, OL's struggled to know where to protect, man coverage made the QB hold more giving DL more time. I like the idea of having a base system that can do the things we want and then the players we add can give you the chance to adapt and innovate it to be even more effective. That's something I put against Wash I'm afraid, hes had a very talented group and for a few years but I dont see much of a unique playbook hes been able to build.

We run nickel instead of base most of the time largely as just a basic response to opponents lining up with multiple receivers whether they are running or passing.  
While base should (on paper) be more effective vs the run, you have to respond to the opponents personnel in kind, so nickel gets the nod frequently out of coverage necessity.

I agree, its felt we've played more nickel than traditional 4-3 but I also think it's that Hayden can do more than the LB's in that role. He can play the run or pass which is a big help. Like you say, O's run a lot of 3 WR sets which automatically switches you to nickel. That was one of the perks of having Telvin and Myles in the 4-3, they were quick enough to cover TE's, RB's and slot WR's so you could stay in 4-3 if you wanted. I dont think we have that flexibility yet.

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Speaking of bye weeks, I have always like them, because it is a stress free Sunday where one can spend the afternoon watching RedZone and not worrying about the Jaguars.

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Speaking of bye weeks, I have always like them, because it is a stress free Sunday where one can spend the afternoon watching RedZone and not worrying about the Jaguars.

Not true. Bye week used to be when our players got DUIs and tried paying for beer with gum

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Or doin' rails in parking lots....

Really wish I could find that Matt Jones rap video...

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Lots of LBers are undersized these days... I'm only seeing a few that are taller than 6'1" and many of them are in the 220s
But we could target a guy like Murray from Oklahoma?
Jennings from Bama or Harrison from OSU?

They have the size but do any of them play in a traditional 43?

I think, if we make some changes on coach staff, we could see a change in our defensive philosophy.
A coach that better utilizes the back 7 or perhaps moves a guy like Allen all around from standing end, to hand down, to rush backer...
Maybe Myles Jack is best suited for some style of 34?

a.  Myles Jack easily weighs 240 pounds, not 225.  I stood face to face with him and shook his hand just a few months ago and I feel confident in that appraisal. He's taller than Bobby Wagner and easily within 5 pounds of him - and that's the prototype in this defensive scheme. 

b.  People were livid here because Poz was too slow in coverage in a scheme that demanded the MLB cover TEs and receivers at times. Now the faster guy is too small.  *shrug*

c.  Myles' size probably contributes to his run fit issues when he's effectively blocked out of plays at times, but I think his inability to play with gap discipline and his tendency to be easily duped my pre-snap movement and misdirection are much greater liabilities.  He doesn't play smart IMO.

I think he was 225 out of college maybe. The NFL website is closer to your estimate, at 244. He looks like he's probably about 0% body fat too.

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I think he was 225 out of college maybe. The NFL website is closer to your estimate, at 244. He looks like he's probably about 0% body fat too.

Jack looks like he carries some fat around his waist. I saw it in one of the recent videos from Ashlyn Sullivan. 

Dude isn't fat, and it isn't like this is a big deal, but he looks like he probably isn't as conditioned as he should be.

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a.  Myles Jack easily weighs 240 pounds, not 225.  I stood face to face with him and shook his hand just a few months ago and I feel confident in that appraisal. He's taller than Bobby Wagner and easily within 5 pounds of him - and that's the prototype in this defensive scheme. 

b.  People were livid here because Poz was too slow in coverage in a scheme that demanded the MLB cover TEs and receivers at times. Now the faster guy is too small.  *shrug*

c.  Myles' size probably contributes to his run fit issues when he's effectively blocked out of plays at times, but I think his inability to play with gap discipline and his tendency to be easily duped my pre-snap movement and misdirection are much greater liabilities.  He doesn't play smart IMO.

I think he was 225 out of college maybe. The NFL website is closer to your estimate, at 244. He looks like he's probably about 0% body fat too.

He was 245 at the combine and there's no way he dropped 20 pounds over the past couple seasons.

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Good video here looking at how Saleh and the 49ers moved away from the Seattle D style. Could we do the same? 

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a.  Myles Jack easily weighs 240 pounds, not 225.  I stood face to face with him and shook his hand just a few months ago and I feel confident in that appraisal. He's taller than Bobby Wagner and easily within 5 pounds of him - and that's the prototype in this defensive scheme. 

b.  People were livid here because Poz was too slow in coverage in a scheme that demanded the MLB cover TEs and receivers at times. Now the faster guy is too small.  *shrug*

c.  Myles' size probably contributes to his run fit issues when he's effectively blocked out of plays at times, but I think his inability to play with gap discipline and his tendency to be easily duped my pre-snap movement and misdirection are much greater liabilities.  He doesn't play smart IMO.

"Google" lists him at 225
NFL lists him at 244

This is probably the worst knock though. Nevermind size... if you're the MLB and not playing smart, that's an issue. And I wonder if that is something that can be fixed (football IQ)

The biggest knock on Jack is that he has little to no natural instinct at the MLB position. 

None

 I've been saying this from day one while most mocked me for doing so. Also, I knew that it was an major mistake to pay him as we did. He'll never live up to that contract. 

Never

NH3...

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"AZANE"

The biggest knock on Jack is that he has little to no natural instinct at the MLB position. 

None

 I've been saying this from day one while most mocked me for doing so. Also, I knew that it was an major mistake to pay him as we did. He'll never live up to that contract. 

Never

NH3...

This right here 100%

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LOVE THEM JAGUARS!

Maybe Moses shows he is recovered from his ACL tear and we use the Rams 1st on him. That could very quickly turn our LB corps from a weakness to a strength.

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This season, the Chiefs have lost to the Texans, Colts, and now the Titans.

Thanks for the help.... -___-

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This season, the Chiefs have lost to the Texans, Colts, and now the Titans.

Thanks for the help.... -___-

It's crazy. Chiefs threw that away today.
Same with Atlanta.  

But Miami are beating the Colts at the moment...

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Can't teach instinct and Myles Jack doesn't have any. He will never be a good MLB.

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Jack should be on the outside, he is never gonna be a good MLB.

Looking back at 2016 draft (which people praised DC mightly for getting Jack in the 2nd LOL) we could have had Chris Jones, Xavien Howard, Michael Thomas, Kevin Byard...

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Speaking of bye weeks, I have always like them, because it is a stress free Sunday where one can spend the afternoon watching RedZone and not worrying about the Jaguars.

I was always bummed “my team” didn’t play.  But I had a pretty busy weekend so, for the first time, I felt the same way.  It was almost like a mini vacation just casually watching the other games.  Seeing all the upsets around the league helped I think.  I was thinking, for once, this fan isn’t upset, not this week!

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I think he was 225 out of college maybe. The NFL website is closer to your estimate, at 244. He looks like he's probably about 0% body fat too.

He was 245 at the combine and there's no way he dropped 20 pounds over the past couple seasons.

I agree. There are some articles listing him at 225, but digging around a little it looks like that was his weight as a freshman.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you. 
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I read that the Jags worked out two linebackers and an OLB/DE this week.
They were all bigger guys in the Leon Jacobs/Lerentee McCray mold or larger. 
Not sure if they are looking to stock depth or fill what I think may be an open spot on the PS since they promoted a CB and WR/PR last week.

This is the guy mentioned above:

https://twitter.com/BrentASJax/status/11...17472?s=20

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Here is to hoping our crack staff spent the extra time preparing to amaze as we take on the colts this week.

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