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Sounds like Tony Khan is coming back.

#21

Anyone who puts "thought leader" into their bio is a giant tool.
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#22

Tony Khan is the future of our franchise whether it's Now or Later. Only seasoned fans gets this.

He's been groomed for the take over and if now is the time, then let it be.

Time Will Tell.

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#23
(This post was last modified: 12-22-2019, 03:47 AM by Talented Kalamari.)

Yeah, let’s put the fate of our franchise in a trust fund kid who hasn’t worked hard a day in his life and doesn’t know [BLEEP] about football. Awesome!
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(This post was last modified: 12-22-2019, 05:43 AM by The Real Marty.)

(12-22-2019, 03:46 AM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: Yeah, let’s put the fate of our franchise in a trust fund kid who hasn’t worked hard a day in his life and doesn’t know [BLEEP] about football. Awesome!

I think that's unfair.  
Firstly, no one is saying Shad Khan is putting the "fate of the franchise" in his hands.  
Secondly, as for "trust fund kid," you don't know the guy, and we shouldn't hold against him the fact that his father has been successful in business.  
Thirdly, "doesn't know bleep about football...," that could actually be a good thing.  TC knew everything about football and just totally screwed the whole thing up.  If Tony goes with the attitude that he doesn't know as much about football as the head coach or the general manager, then maybe he won't meddle with everyone and everything like TC did.  Besides, I'm sure Tony will get along with the players a lot better than TC did.  

In my opinion, TC was the absolute wrong guy for the position of EVP of Football Operations.  Putting him in that job meant we had 3 guys trying to do 2 jobs.  Too many cooks in the kitchen.  The EVP of Football Ops should position himself job-wise closer to the owner than to the GM or the HC.  He should be the owner's assistant, not the overseer of the GM and the HC.  I think Tony would be perfect for that job, because he's the owner's son.  

Let's face it, a team is only as good as its owner.  So far, Shad Khan, well...  Maybe Tony Khan can be better at some of the ownership functions than his father.  Especially with Shad Khan being busy traveling the world selling bumpers.

And lastly, that tweet by Albert Breer is 100% speculation.  "Sources tell me..."  "...more involved..."  It's just throwing stuff against the wall so he can tweet something.  What did Tony Khan do to deserve the personal attacks in this thread?  Nothing.
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#25

(12-22-2019, 12:12 AM)Upper Wrote: I mean...maybe if the FO had listened to the analytics it might be different.
Agreed. 

If Tony Khan is in the mix for a GM spot or just an increased role in personnel steering, then I think it will be because he can point to specific instances over the years where his analytics were ignored to the team's detriment.

sidenote: I think it's funny that some folks believe Tony Khan has spent this many years analyzing and evaluating NCAA and NFL player performance and somehow knows nothing about football. He could probably take 80% of this board to school on X's and O's at this point.
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#26

I guess taking the kismet filled with Instagram models and alcohol for a spin around the world for the rest of his life is not an option that you actually gotta work?
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#27

I would be pretty shocked if he came back as the GM too. I think it'll be either an EVP role where he is essentially a non dictatorial Coughlin overseer of the entire football operations, or he'll come back as the head of an expanded and uncastrated analytics department
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#28

(12-22-2019, 08:58 AM)jaglyn Wrote: I guess taking the kismet filled with Instagram models and alcohol for a spin around the world for the rest of his life is not an option that you actually gotta work?

It was fun for a while, but eventually I just had to come back here and hang out with you guys.
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#29
(This post was last modified: 12-22-2019, 12:28 PM by HandsomeRob86.)

(12-22-2019, 12:25 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Anyone who puts "thought leader" into their bio is a giant tool.

Admittedly, I thought the same thing. That is a comment that wouldnt be anywhere near my CV. That said I like Tony Khan, and I think his bio should try so hard. He had an interesting enough position without that pointless insert.

(12-22-2019, 08:22 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(12-22-2019, 12:12 AM)Upper Wrote: I mean...maybe if the FO had listened to the analytics it might be different.
Agreed. 

If Tony Khan is in the mix for a GM spot or just an increased role in personnel steering, then I think it will be because he can point to specific instances over the years where his analytics were ignored to the team's detriment.

sidenote: I think it's funny that some folks believe Tony Khan has spent this many years analyzing and evaluating NCAA and NFL player performance and somehow knows nothing about football. He could probably take 80% of this board to school on X's and O's at this point.

Agreed, just because he is an owners son/owner doesn't mean he sucks at what he does. Jerrys son is actually pretty decent, and I think we have evidence from the past that Tony was good at the analytics. I don't see an increased involvement of him as a bad thing at all.


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#30

(12-22-2019, 08:22 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(12-22-2019, 12:12 AM)Upper Wrote: I mean...maybe if the FO had listened to the analytics it might be different.
Agreed. 

If Tony Khan is in the mix for a GM spot or just an increased role in personnel steering, then I think it will be because he can point to specific instances over the years where his analytics were ignored to the team's detriment.

sidenote: I think it's funny that some folks believe Tony Khan has spent this many years analyzing and evaluating NCAA and NFL player performance and somehow knows nothing about football. He could probably take 80% of this board to school on X's and O's at this point.

I feel better knowing he is involved with the team vs just his dad that is for sure. He does seem to have a lot of knowledge about football.
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#31

(12-22-2019, 05:38 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(12-22-2019, 03:46 AM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: Yeah, let’s put the fate of our franchise in a trust fund kid who hasn’t worked hard a day in his life and doesn’t know [BLEEP] about football. Awesome!

I think that's unfair.  
Firstly, no one is saying Shad Khan is putting the "fate of the franchise" in his hands.  
Secondly, as for "trust fund kid," you don't know the guy, and we shouldn't hold against him the fact that his father has been successful in business.  
Thirdly, "doesn't know bleep about football...," that could actually be a good thing.  TC knew everything about football and just totally screwed the whole thing up.  If Tony goes with the attitude that he doesn't know as much about football as the head coach or the general manager, then maybe he won't meddle with everyone and everything like TC did.  Besides, I'm sure Tony will get along with the players a lot better than TC did.  

In my opinion, TC was the absolute wrong guy for the position of EVP of Football Operations.  Putting him in that job meant we had 3 guys trying to do 2 jobs.  Too many cooks in the kitchen.  The EVP of Football Ops should position himself job-wise closer to the owner than to the GM or the HC.  He should be the owner's assistant, not the overseer of the GM and the HC.  I think Tony would be perfect for that job, because he's the owner's son.  

Let's face it, a team is only as good as its owner.  So far, Shad Khan, well...  Maybe Tony Khan can be better at some of the ownership functions than his father.  Especially with Shad Khan being busy traveling the world selling bumpers.

And lastly, that tweet by Albert Breer is 100% speculation.  "Sources tell me..."  "...more involved..."  It's just throwing stuff against the wall so he can tweet something.  What did Tony Khan do to deserve the personal attacks in this thread?  Nothing.

Agree wholeheartedly with this entire post. With regards to the last statement - the poster has a real, deep-rooted issue with the Khan's.

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#32

Tony K the GM. Analytic ball baby! It’s going to be AWESOME!
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#33

(12-22-2019, 12:30 PM)nhiverson Wrote:
(12-22-2019, 08:22 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Agreed. 

If Tony Khan is in the mix for a GM spot or just an increased role in personnel steering, then I think it will be because he can point to specific instances over the years where his analytics were ignored to the team's detriment.

sidenote: I think it's funny that some folks believe Tony Khan has spent this many years analyzing and evaluating NCAA and NFL player performance and somehow knows nothing about football. He could probably take 80% of this board to school on X's and O's at this point.

I feel better knowing he is involved with the team vs just his dad that is for sure. He does seem to have a lot of knowledge about football.

I mean, even if he hasn't figured it out well enough to be some major asset to the Jags, he has been an active student of the game dating back to before the Jags purchase.  So I find it really silly when fans try to pass him off as some rich kid with no clue about the game. 

He seems like a smart guy that is dedicated and passionate about finding innovative ways to improve the team. 

I have no clue if he'll succeed if given more input, but I'm totally lost on why I'm supposed to just assume that more input from him would be a bad thing.
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#34

(12-22-2019, 12:25 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Anyone who puts "thought leader" into their bio is a giant tool.

Sounds better than "thought follower" tbqh
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#35

(12-22-2019, 01:30 PM)TJBender Wrote:
(12-22-2019, 12:25 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Anyone who puts "thought leader" into their bio is a giant tool.

Sounds better than "thought follower" tbqh

That sounds like a giant tool holster.
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#36

(12-21-2019, 08:53 PM)JackCity Wrote: Fulham fans everywhere rejoice

No kidding.  As a Fulham FC fan, those were my initial thoughts ---- TAKE YOUR HANDS OFF FULHAM (although they did have a nice win yesterday vs Leeds) !!
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#37

(12-22-2019, 03:46 AM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: Yeah, let’s put the fate of our franchise in a trust fund kid who hasn’t worked hard a day in his life and doesn’t know [BLEEP] about football. Awesome!

Who do you think normally owns NFL teams?
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(12-22-2019, 12:36 PM)enigma Wrote:
(12-22-2019, 05:38 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I think that's unfair.  
Firstly, no one is saying Shad Khan is putting the "fate of the franchise" in his hands.  
Secondly, as for "trust fund kid," you don't know the guy, and we shouldn't hold against him the fact that his father has been successful in business.  
Thirdly, "doesn't know bleep about football...," that could actually be a good thing.  TC knew everything about football and just totally screwed the whole thing up.  If Tony goes with the attitude that he doesn't know as much about football as the head coach or the general manager, then maybe he won't meddle with everyone and everything like TC did.  Besides, I'm sure Tony will get along with the players a lot better than TC did.  

In my opinion, TC was the absolute wrong guy for the position of EVP of Football Operations.  Putting him in that job meant we had 3 guys trying to do 2 jobs.  Too many cooks in the kitchen.  The EVP of Football Ops should position himself job-wise closer to the owner than to the GM or the HC.  He should be the owner's assistant, not the overseer of the GM and the HC.  I think Tony would be perfect for that job, because he's the owner's son.  

Let's face it, a team is only as good as its owner.  So far, Shad Khan, well...  Maybe Tony Khan can be better at some of the ownership functions than his father.  Especially with Shad Khan being busy traveling the world selling bumpers.

And lastly, that tweet by Albert Breer is 100% speculation.  "Sources tell me..."  "...more involved..."  It's just throwing stuff against the wall so he can tweet something.  What did Tony Khan do to deserve the personal attacks in this thread?  Nothing.

Agree wholeheartedly with this entire post. With regards to the last statement - the poster has a real, deep-rooted issue with the Khan's.

Nobody’s personally attacking Tony, and  nobody has any kind of “deep-rooted” issue with him of Shad either. Football just isn’t something that they know very well. It’s okay.. there’s no problem with that. Stick to the books and analytics. Let a football guy who has been around the game take the GM role. That’s all I’m saying. And it’s the last time I’ll give any kind of response to the troll. I can tell he’s really a blast at parties.
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(12-22-2019, 02:38 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote:
(12-22-2019, 12:36 PM)enigma Wrote: Agree wholeheartedly with this entire post. With regards to the last statement - the poster has a real, deep-rooted issue with the Khan's.

Nobody’s personally attacking Tony, and  nobody has any kind of “deep-rooted” issue with him of Shad either. Football just isn’t something that they know very well. It’s okay.. there’s no problem with that. Stick to the books and analytics. Let a football guy who has been around the game take the GM role. That’s all I’m saying. And it’s the last time I’ll give any kind of response to the troll. I can tell he’s really a blast at parties.

What makes you think Tony Khan couldn't teach you about the game of football? 

Why are you convinced he doesn't know the game?
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(12-22-2019, 02:41 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(12-22-2019, 02:38 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: Nobody’s personally attacking Tony, and  nobody has any kind of “deep-rooted” issue with him of Shad either. Football just isn’t something that they know very well. It’s okay.. there’s no problem with that. Stick to the books and analytics. Let a football guy who has been around the game take the GM role. That’s all I’m saying. And it’s the last time I’ll give any kind of response to the troll. I can tell he’s really a blast at parties.

What makes you think Tony Khan couldn't teach you about the game of football? 

Why are you convinced he doesn't know the game?


I’m not saying he couldn’t teach me about football. Heck, there’s honestly a good chance he knows more than I do. I’m just a fan, I’m not naive enough to think I’m any kind of expert. Maybe he could kick [BLEEP] and be a great GM, I don’t know. I’m just saying that my gut feeling tells me that someone else who’s been around the game longer, involved in the league in other roles, maybe even a former player might be a better fit. But I’m only stating my opinion.
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