It’s always best player available no matter what. Too many times we passed over JJ Watt, Big Ben, Wilson, etc.

No drafting punters and kickers or even return specialists. Go after the best player available.

Exactly, the only way I would take the lesser rated player is if the players were rated very closely and we were stacked at that position.  Which is almost never.  We should almost always go BPA

Almost never? I'd say almost always, especially once you get past the earlier rounds. 250+ players are drafted, there are always going to be multiple players who have similar grades, however you do the grading. At that point you have to bring in all the other factors to decide who to pick from that tier of players...

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It’s always best player available no matter what. Too many times we passed over JJ Watt, Big Ben, Wilson, etc.

No drafting punters and kickers or even return specialists. Go after the best player available.

In 2003 we passed on Terrell Suggs to draft Byron Leftwich
In 2004 since we had Leftwich, we passed on Big Ben to draft WR Reggie Williams.

We essentially went from potentially having Suggs and Big Ben to having Leftwich and Williams.

Hence, the emergence of the Ravens and the downfall of the Jags.

Think about it, if we draft Big Ben, we don't go through Garrard, Gabbert, Henne, and Bortles.

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It’s always best player available no matter what. Too many times we passed over JJ Watt, Big Ben, Wilson, etc.

No drafting punters and kickers or even return specialists. Go after the best player available.

In 2003 we passed on Terrell Suggs to draft Byron Leftwich
In 2004 since we had Leftwich, we passed on Big Ben to draft WR Reggie Williams.

We essentially went from potentially having Suggs and Big Ben to having Leftwich and Williams.

Hence, the emergence of the Ravens and the downfall of the Jags.

Think about it, if we draft Big Ben, we don't go through Garrard, Gabbert, Henne, and Bortles.

You're right, and the saddest thing is there are another 101 similar examples in the last 20 years or so of jags drafting.

Ultimately though, the only lesson to be learned from it all is don't be [BLEEP] at drafting.

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Exactly, the only way I would take the lesser rated player is if the players were rated very closely and we were stacked at that position.  Which is almost never.  We should almost always go BPA

Almost never? I'd say almost always, especially once you get past the earlier rounds. 250+ players are drafted, there are always going to be multiple players who have similar grades, however you do the grading. At that point you have to bring in all the other factors to decide who to pick from that tier of players...

I'm talking about it's almost never that we are stacked at a position

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Drafting good players always is a sound plan

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This is one of those drafts where I just don't see how they can possibly [BLEEP] up the first three picks. They need so much. If they screw this up, something is seriously amiss.

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It’s always best player available no matter what. Too many times we passed over JJ Watt, Big Ben, Wilson, etc.

No drafting punters and kickers or even return specialists. Go after the best player available.

And so did a lot of teams.... If everyone knew how all the players would turn out, it would make the draft so much easier!

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It’s always best player available no matter what. Too many times we passed over JJ Watt, Big Ben, Wilson, etc.

No drafting punters and kickers or even return specialists. Go after the best player available.

And so did a lot of teams.... If everyone knew how all the players would turn out, it would make the draft so much easier!

Seems to me like some teams are a lot better at it than others though.  All in all, I'd have to say finding the right QB usually hides weaknesses in other positions.

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BAP on Defense. We have too many holes to fill at these positions. The first three picks should go defensive and from then on, BAP overall. Our needs are too needy on defense.

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

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And so did a lot of teams.... If everyone knew how all the players would turn out, it would make the draft so much easier!

Seems to me like some teams are a lot better at it than others though.  All in all, I'd have to say finding the right QB usually hides weaknesses in other positions.

100%

And really great coaching can mask all of it. Jags have lacked both which is why is appears they are worse at drafting than most teams. I don't blame the Jags for taking Gabbert because he was rated pretty high that season and rated higher than Watt by just about everyone. He was almost the #1 pick. Anger over Wilson is still an anomaly but again, if we knew Wilson would be what he is now, he goes #1 ahead of Luck.

I'm also curious, which teams do you think draft the best?

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I would say they should hopefully focus the draft towards the offense and then try to patch up the defense to the best of their abilities during free agency.

The more and more I look at the talent available in round one there's a feeling that I get that we'll unfortunately NOT be in a position to land one of the top three players on defense. I think Simmons, Brown & Okudah are all off the board before we pick at No. 9.

With that said I think they stand to gain one of the top three OT's or arguably the best WR on their draft board if they feel like the value matches up with the pick and need on the roster.

That 20th pick is also similar to me where, again, you'll have this weird window where the next best defenders should come off the board before we pick at No. 20. So we'll more than likely miss out on guys like Kinlaw, Espenesa & McKinney. I am not comfortable with Fulton nor Henderson at CB there. And I don't think an ILB is worth that high of a pick this year. I understand people are high on Murray and Queen at the moment but I am a bit hesitant to pull the trigger on those guys that early.

I would rather see that 20th pick invested on the other position of offense that we missed out on with the 9th pick. If they go WR first. Go OT second. Or vise versa.

I really would like to see Wirfs or Becton at this point with that 9th overall pick to address the line a bit for Minshew's sake. And then I would like to see them pick up one of those WR's from Alabama or maybe Jefferson out of LSU. That's my ideal scenario on opening night. Still need to see what they're going to do with Ngakoue as well. A lot of work can get done in this draft.

When you look at teams being fixed or "dynasties" being built it's often started with "So, I had ALL of these draft picks right. . . ".

Except Cleveland. Cleveland [BLEEP] everything up.

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Use every single pick on offensive line and just be done with it.

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Use every single pick on offensive line and just be done with it.

I wouldn't go THAT far. But it wouldn't hurt my feelings nor surprise me at all if they walked out of this draft with three new offensive lineman. Two of which will probably be deemed as starters early with one really good quality depth player with the ability to play across the entire line if needed. 

Tristan Wirfs or Meckhi Becton with the No. 9 pick
Tyler Biadasz with the No. 73 pick
Ben Cleveland with the No. 166th pick

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Use every single pick on offensive line and just be done with it.

I wouldn't go THAT far. But it wouldn't hurt my feelings nor surprise me at all if they walked out of this draft with three new offensive lineman. Two of which will probably be deemed as starters early with one really good quality depth player with the ability to play across the entire line if needed. 

Tristan Wirfs or Meckhi Becton with the No. 9 pick
Tyler Biadasz with the No. 73 pick
Ben Cleveland with the No. 166th pick

Think about it, Fournette will have that runway he needs to get going. He's a good RB when he has that. Defense will be off the field, ball control. Minshew will have protection and less pressure. Just FIX IT!

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I wouldn't go THAT far. But it wouldn't hurt my feelings nor surprise me at all if they walked out of this draft with three new offensive lineman. Two of which will probably be deemed as starters early with one really good quality depth player with the ability to play across the entire line if needed. 

Tristan Wirfs or Meckhi Becton with the No. 9 pick
Tyler Biadasz with the No. 73 pick
Ben Cleveland with the No. 166th pick

Think about it, Fournette will have that runway he needs to get going. He's a good RB when he has that. Defense will be off the field, ball control. Minshew will have protection and less pressure. Just FIX IT!

I'm all for it. 

I still wager they ignore this great class of offensive tackles to give Cam another shot though. *shrug*

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Think about it, Fournette will have that runway he needs to get going. He's a good RB when he has that. Defense will be off the field, ball control. Minshew will have protection and less pressure. Just FIX IT!

I'm all for it. 

I still wager they ignore this great class of offensive tackles to give Cam another shot though. *shrug*

I hope not. It's rare you'll ever see a talented group like this at OT. All of the top guys seem to have above average foot work and can get around the edge and clear the path on plays along the outside. 

Does Jay Gruden use a Full-Back in his system? I can't recall. I really think had they left some of that in this offense last year that they may have got a bit more out of Fournette.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I'm all for it. 

I still wager they ignore this great class of offensive tackles to give Cam another shot though. *shrug*

I hope not. It's rare you'll ever see a talented group like this at OT. All of the top guys seem to have above average foot work and can get around the edge and clear the path on plays along the outside. 

Does Jay Gruden use a Full-Back in his system? I can't recall. I really think had they left some of that in this offense last year that they may have got a bit more out of Fournette.

He mentioned the possibility of using a fullback - but in the past has used TE as an H-Back to lead block. 
DeFilippo did that last season for Fournette fairly often and it worked well at times. But LF too often simply does not follow his lead blocker. 

We have a TE on the roster that played H-Back in college named Charles Jones. He was a pretty good receiver coming out of the backfield too.  Gruden used Niles Paul this way several years ago. I'd wager Gruden goes that route rather than a fulltime FB, but who knows? 

And, yes, depending on how players fall to our picks, it would seem a waste not to get a stud tackle from this crop.

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I think I would draft heavy offense and plug holes on defense through free agency

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I think I would draft heavy offense and plug holes on defense through free agency

Yep, you can stop the run with cash. You really cant get a great offense that way.

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