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(03-23-2020, 09:40 AM)Sneakers Wrote:(03-23-2020, 09:12 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: Maybe... you lack chutzpah. We aren't all going to get it, not anywhere close to all of us even. (03-23-2020, 09:28 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Where is that sourced from? “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
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For companies, like the airlines, that are cash strapped only because they spent all their cash on stock buybacks, they shouldn't get a direct payment from the government. They made a mistake with those stock buybacks and they have to undo it. Offering more stock now won't fully solve the problem because their stock price is very low already. Instead, the treasury should purchase a bunch of shares from the airline at slightly above market price, and start selling those shares after the crisis passes. This is similar to what the government did for AIG. The company gets money from the government, but with the equity stake, the government can make sure that the company behaves during the crisis.
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(03-23-2020, 10:43 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:Can't say where that's from, but I've been using what I consider to be the best tracking model:(03-23-2020, 09:40 AM)Sneakers Wrote: 1% of the US population is 3,300,000 people. https://ncov2019.live/ Currently, we're 3rd in the world with total confirmed cases (35,581). I expect that we'll be leading Italy & China by the close of next week, especially with China tapering off. According to this model, we're seeing a 4.7% increase in daily cases (1,600+). This 15-day thing Trump has started to use - I doubt we'll be even close to being on the backside of the curve by that time. South Korea is only just now starting to see the downslope.
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(03-23-2020, 10:43 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:The Imperial College of London report estimated that 80% of us would get it if no one changed any behaviors.(03-23-2020, 09:40 AM)Sneakers Wrote: 1% of the US population is 3,300,000 people.
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(03-23-2020, 11:07 AM)Gabe Wrote:(03-23-2020, 10:43 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: We aren't all going to get it, not anywhere close to all of us even.Can't say where that's from, but I've been using what I consider to be the best tracking model: That graph is from the johns-hopkins site https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(03-23-2020, 11:18 AM)mikesez Wrote:(03-23-2020, 10:43 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: We aren't all going to get it, not anywhere close to all of us even.The Imperial College of London report estimated that 80% of us would get it if no one changed any behaviors. Great, that is what we call "irrelevant." (03-23-2020, 11:19 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:(03-23-2020, 11:07 AM)Gabe Wrote: Can't say where that's from, but I've been using what I consider to be the best tracking model: Thanks. (03-23-2020, 11:07 AM)Gabe Wrote:(03-23-2020, 10:43 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: We aren't all going to get it, not anywhere close to all of us even.Can't say where that's from, but I've been using what I consider to be the best tracking model: Thank you as well. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
Pelosi expected to try and include student loan forgiveness I. The house bill, in addition to demonstrate demands for increased union power, fuel emission standards for airlines and wind/solar tax credits.
I cant take these people.
China didn't taper off, they stopped reporting. With a new supply of testing kits coming online in the US, yes, we will surpass every country in confirmed cases probably 10-fold before the spring/summer downslope. All these trackers do very little to tell the whole story.
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(03-23-2020, 11:57 AM)B2hibry Wrote: China didn't taper off, they stopped reporting. With a new supply of testing kits coming online in the US, yes, we will surpass every country in confirmed cases probably 10-fold before the spring/summer downslope. All these trackers do very little to tell the whole story. My suspicion of China led me to the same conclusion until I saw a comment from an American living in Wuhan which said that life was getting back to normal there. China can no longer hide their big problems and they know it.
(03-22-2020, 11:15 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I think within a few weeks the economic pressure will become so great, the government will declare some sort of limited victory, and tell the young people to get back out there, while encouraging the old folks to stay isolated. Didn't Fauci the other day said it would be "a few weeks?" Looks like I was right. Trump is already sending out tweets about this. (03-23-2020, 12:01 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:Understood but I'd take his comments lightly. China has and will isolate info from the rest of the world. Unless you are following government sentiment and reporting requirements, you are being asked to leave or placed in confinement, especially Western media. Not the same freedom of speech situation as here.(03-23-2020, 11:57 AM)B2hibry Wrote: China didn't taper off, they stopped reporting. With a new supply of testing kits coming online in the US, yes, we will surpass every country in confirmed cases probably 10-fold before the spring/summer downslope. All these trackers do very little to tell the whole story. ![]() (03-23-2020, 10:43 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:(03-23-2020, 09:40 AM)Sneakers Wrote: 1% of the US population is 3,300,000 people. I know we're not all going to get it. What NOBODY knows is how many of us will ultimately get it, which is why protective measures have to be taken very seriously.
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We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (03-23-2020, 12:06 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:This is actually spot on in my opinion. To be honest, the isolation was really never about avoiding getting COVID-19 to begin with. It was a chance for medical facilities to regroup and get a grasp...flatten the curve. It does more harm than good for the larger population was "protecting" a minority population. The ladder can be disastrous!(03-22-2020, 11:15 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I think within a few weeks the economic pressure will become so great, the government will declare some sort of limited victory, and tell the young people to get back out there, while encouraging the old folks to stay isolated. Didn't Fauci the other day said it would be "a few weeks?" ![]()
(03-23-2020, 09:16 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: We've officially reached the point of too little too late from our federal government's preparedness in my opinion. I have to disagree with you at this point, though honestly I don't know enough about it to make a firm decision. It is my understanding that the act gives the federal government the power to require companies to make the needs of the federal government when it comes to national defense a priority. So far it appears that private industry is already doing so. IMuch of private industry is "re-tooling and/or re-configuring" production lines to provide needed supplies without the federal government compelling them to do so. As an example some automakers are setting up to produce parts, supplies or in some cases the end product (ventilators). Many distilleries are re-configuring to manufacture hand sanitizer, again without being directed to do so. It is also my understanding that there are also manufacturers that are re-configuring and/or ramping up production of masks. In a nutshell the private industry is already doing the things that the act provides power to The President and/or the federal government. Again, this is just my understanding. I could be wrong and if so please correct me. There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.
(03-23-2020, 10:15 AM)mikesez Wrote:(03-23-2020, 09:58 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Corporate bailouts are a tricky animal. These corporations create so many jobs its sometimes easy to turn your head to their shady practices. There is no perfect solution, but putting irrelevant fat in these bills at THIS time is unacceptable. That's pretty much what The President was saying during his press conference over the weekend. He wants the stimulus to help the average person, not fund stock buybacks. He actually said (paraphrasing) that he wants them to help the people, not their bottom line. (03-23-2020, 11:56 AM)jj82284 Wrote: Pelosi expected to try and include student loan forgiveness I. The house bill, in addition to demonstrate demands for increased union power, fuel emission standards for airlines and wind/solar tax credits. Exactly. It sure looks like the democrats are trying to use this to push through funding for their socialist programs as well as try to hurt President Trump. It's pretty much "politics as usual" and quite frankly it's pretty sickening. There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who don't. (03-23-2020, 11:39 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:According to the New York times, in an article published six days ago, this report from London is what got the White House's attention the most.(03-23-2020, 11:18 AM)mikesez Wrote: The Imperial College of London report estimated that 80% of us would get it if no one changed any behaviors. So you can think it's irrelevant, but they did not.
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(03-23-2020, 03:18 PM)mikesez Wrote:(03-23-2020, 11:39 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Great, that is what we call "irrelevant."According to the New York times, in an article published six days ago, this report from London is what got the White House's attention the most. Well, between me and them I'm pretty sure whose opinion is worth more. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
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