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Henderson at 9???

#21

(04-20-2020, 07:35 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(04-16-2020, 12:39 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote: Is he physical? Can he go up against and suppress Deandre Hopkins like Jalen did?

Are we going to play the Cardinals this year?

Duh, the super bowl
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#22

I wouldn't personally but it would be a very good value move if he hits. Makes more sense than Brown from that aspect
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#23

I'm starting to think we take Kinlaw at 9.
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#24

Peter king said we might trade up for a corner(from 9) and Breer said it's Simmons or trade down.....so aka nobody knows
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#25
(This post was last modified: 04-20-2020, 09:24 AM by Cleatwood.)

(04-20-2020, 09:08 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I'm starting to think we take Kinlaw at 9.
And that would be terrible.

If they take Kinlaw, the draft will be downhill from there. Especially if they had offers to move down because they could still get Kinlaw around 16-20

(04-20-2020, 09:14 AM)ColoJag Wrote: Peter king said we might trade up for a corner(from 9) and Breer said it's Simmons or trade down.....so aka nobody knows
This.


It’s no secret the Jags need a corner but I’m not sure they’re trading up.
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#26

The Jags are only moving up for Okudah if he drops some. If not they'll either sit pretty or move back with Denver as they've already discussed parameters
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#27
(This post was last modified: 04-20-2020, 09:52 AM by RicoTx.)

Somebody posted an article on this board already that said this year, outside of the first few picks, the draft 'experts' are just throwing darts and have no idea what is happening.
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#28

(04-20-2020, 09:23 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(04-20-2020, 09:08 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I'm starting to think we take Kinlaw at 9.
And that would be terrible.

If they take Kinlaw, the draft will be downhill from there. Especially if they had offers to move down because they could still get Kinlaw around 16-20

(04-20-2020, 09:14 AM)ColoJag Wrote: Peter king said we might trade up for a corner(from 9) and Breer said it's Simmons or trade down.....so aka nobody knows
This.


It’s no secret the Jags need a corner but I’m not sure they’re trading up.

Kinlaw is a top 10 player in this draft and good enough to be a top 10 pick.  There is a possibility of him going before our pick at 9 and he could go to Cle., LV, TB, or Den
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#29

(04-20-2020, 12:43 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(04-20-2020, 09:23 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: And that would be terrible.

If they take Kinlaw, the draft will be downhill from there. Especially if they had offers to move down because they could still get Kinlaw around 16-20

This.


It’s no secret the Jags need a corner but I’m not sure they’re trading up.

Kinlaw is a top 10 player in this draft and good enough to be a top 10 pick.  There is a possibility of him going before our pick at 9 and he could go to Cle., LV, TB, or Den
Not a chance he goes before 9.

Who are your top 10 players?
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#30

(04-19-2020, 10:54 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(04-19-2020, 10:49 AM)Upper Wrote: You wouldn't draft him because he's bad at like the 6th most important part of being a cornerback? That's like saying you won't draft a DE who is a stud at rushing the passer because he doesn't bat down enough passes for your liking.

Tackling is WAY more important than the 6th most important thing of being a CB. The receivers are gonna catch about 50% of the passes thrown to them. The CB has to be able to bring them down or there is gonna be multiple big plays against us, each game.

Deion Sanders.

(04-20-2020, 12:43 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(04-20-2020, 09:23 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: And that would be terrible.

If they take Kinlaw, the draft will be downhill from there. Especially if they had offers to move down because they could still get Kinlaw around 16-20

This.


It’s no secret the Jags need a corner but I’m not sure they’re trading up.

Kinlaw is a top 10 player in this draft and good enough to be a top 10 pick.  There is a possibility of him going before our pick at 9 and he could go to Cle., LV, TB, or Den

Kinlaw is going to play for three injury-plagued seasons, get cut, then retire at a young age and completely screw whatever team drafts him.
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#31

(04-20-2020, 01:43 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(04-20-2020, 12:43 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Kinlaw is a top 10 player in this draft and good enough to be a top 10 pick.  There is a possibility of him going before our pick at 9 and he could go to Cle., LV, TB, or Den
Not a chance he goes before 9.

Who are your top 10 players?

Not sure but he's easily a top 10 player for me

DJ has him at 8

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001...raft-class
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#32

(04-20-2020, 09:42 AM)JackCity Wrote: The Jags are only moving up for Okudah if he drops some. If not they'll either sit pretty or move back with Denver as they've already discussed parameters

I'm praying they trade down right now.
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#33
(This post was last modified: 04-20-2020, 04:23 PM by TheO-LineMatters.)

(04-20-2020, 03:57 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:
(04-20-2020, 09:42 AM)JackCity Wrote: The Jags are only moving up for Okudah if he drops some. If not they'll either sit pretty or move back with Denver as they've already discussed parameters

I'm praying they trade down right now.

I don't necessarily wanna trade up, but I LOVE Okudah. He and Burrow are by far, my favorite players in the draft. I believe Okudah is the best CB to enter the draft since Patrick Peterson. He's a sure-thing in my book, at a position where we have no starting caliber players other than the Nickle position. I would be overjoyed if we landed Okudah, no matter how we did it.

(04-20-2020, 02:37 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(04-20-2020, 01:43 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Not a chance he goes before 9.

Who are your top 10 players?

Not sure but he's easily a top 10 player for me

DJ has him at 8

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001...raft-class

I like him a lot and he does fill a need at 3 technique, but the more I watch him, the more I realize he shouldn't be moved to NT, which is a huge need for us. He's a great interior pass rusher, but he's just average at stopping the run. We'd still have to find a NT later in the draft.
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#34
(This post was last modified: 04-20-2020, 04:39 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

(04-20-2020, 04:20 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(04-20-2020, 03:57 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: I'm praying they trade down right now.

I don't necessarily wanna trade up, but I LOVE Okudah. He and Burrow are by far, my favorite players in the draft. I believe Okudah is the best CB to enter the draft since Patrick Peterson. He's a sure-thing in my book, at a position where we have no starting caliber players other than the Nickle position. I would be overjoyed if we landed Okudah, no matter how we did it.

(04-20-2020, 02:37 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Not sure but he's easily a top 10 player for me

DJ has him at 8

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001...raft-class

I like him a lot and he does fill a need at 3 technique, but the more I watch him, the more I realize he shouldn't be moved to NT, which is a huge need for us. He's a great interior pass rusher, but he's just average at stopping the run. We'd still have to find a NT later in the draft.

I think he can play anywhere on the dline.  I'd draft him now and worry about where I'm gonna play him later. Would still take Brown over him though
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#35

What I find suspicious is that Henderson was not widely being talked about as a top-10 pick or the best CB in the draft up until a week or so ago.

In most draft rankings he was seen as being part of a second tier, along with players like Fulton, Gladney and Terrell.

So what's changed? People will have been well aware of his college career and seen all the film. And the combine happened weeks ago, so its not like he's had a sudden boost from that.

I'm thinking the most likely explanation for his sudden rise up the rankings is that some teams have been whispering that they rate him higher than we thought. Either because it's true, or because they want to spread false rumours to get the players they really want.

I hope that if we do draft him it's because we've done our homework, and that we're not sucked in by this mysterious hype.
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#36

(04-21-2020, 07:38 AM)Andy G Wrote: What I find suspicious is that Henderson was not widely being talked about as a top-10 pick or the best CB in the draft up until a week or so ago.

In most draft rankings he was seen as being part of a second tier, along with players like Fulton, Gladney and Terrell.

So what's changed?  People will have been well aware of his college career and seen all the film. And the combine happened weeks ago, so its not like he's had a sudden boost from that.

I'm thinking the most likely explanation for his sudden rise up the rankings is that some teams have been whispering that they rate him higher than we thought. Either because it's true, or because they want to spread false rumours to get the players they really want.

I hope that if we do draft him it's because we've done our homework, and that we're not sucked in by this mysterious hype.

It's closer to the draft and people lie a lot.
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#37

(04-21-2020, 07:38 AM)Andy G Wrote: What I find suspicious is that Henderson was not widely being talked about as a top-10 pick or the best CB in the draft up until a week or so ago.

In most draft rankings he was seen as being part of a second tier, along with players like Fulton, Gladney and Terrell.

So what's changed?  People will have been well aware of his college career and seen all the film. And the combine happened weeks ago, so its not like he's had a sudden boost from that.

I'm thinking the most likely explanation for his sudden rise up the rankings is that some teams have been whispering that they rate him higher than we thought. Either because it's true, or because they want to spread false rumours to get the players they really want.

I hope that if we do draft him it's because we've done our homework, and that we're not sucked in by this mysterious hype.
He has actually been considered one of if not the best corner the last few years.  Okudah kind of came out of nowhere this past year
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#38

(04-21-2020, 07:38 AM)Andy G Wrote: What I find suspicious is that Henderson was not widely being talked about as a top-10 pick or the best CB in the draft up until a week or so ago.

In most draft rankings he was seen as being part of a second tier, along with players like Fulton, Gladney and Terrell.

So what's changed?  People will have been well aware of his college career and seen all the film. And the combine happened weeks ago, so its not like he's had a sudden boost from that.

I'm thinking the most likely explanation for his sudden rise up the rankings is that some teams have been whispering that they rate him higher than we thought. Either because it's true, or because they want to spread false rumours to get the players they really want.

I hope that if we do draft him it's because we've done our homework, and that we're not sucked in by this mysterious hype.

2 most important things the NFL looks for in a corner, speed and length. The least important: tackling ability. It's weird
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