Still so much talent out there at positions of need.

WR: Mims, Shenault, Hamler, Pittman, Higgins
OL: Jones, Cleveland, Hunt, Cushenberry
DL: Blacklock, Gallimore, Davidson, Elliott, Madubuike
S: Winfield, Davis, Delpit

Getting two of those guys tomorrow would be awesome.

I agree there is still tons of WRs out there.
Hunt looks promising but is a RT.
I think at least half of these guys are off the board by the end of the second round.
I think at least two of these safeties are gone in the second round.  maybe, maybe Davis is there in round 3.

I think a relevant question is how would you prioritize the positions?

Need?  BAP?

Which positions would you address and in which order?

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It's a reach. He's not a complete CB at that. He's a cover corner that will shy away from contact and tackling. I expect him to get jammed a lot and to be trailing a lot with his speed. Sometimes that works. Sometimes it doesn't. 

He was more productive in 2018 and dipped in performance in 2019. They wanted Okudah. Couldn't get Detroit to move off from the 3rd overall pick. That's fine. But they had the pick of the litter at WR, an opportunity to draft a tackle in Wirfs who could push Taylor to LT and move Robinson to G. 

It feels like they panicked. I would have been fine with Diggs, Johnson or Fulton tomorrow night in RD2. Darrell Taylor at DE tomorrow night as well instead of Chaisson. Really concerned with that selection. Feels like a need pick to move on from Ngakoue. 

Unlike Ngakoue though Chaisson really doesn't have the numbers and an injury concern coming out of LSU that Ngakoue didn't have coming out of Maryland. The defense was an issue. That's fine. What's not fine though is keeping Wash around to coach it again. 

They left Minshew out to dry tonight. He lost tonight. They might get a receiver like Higgins, Mims or Pittman Jr. Or they might get a tackle like Cleveland, Jones or Adams. But that group is vastly less dynamic than the likes of Wirfs, Lamb, Jeudy, Ruggs and Jefferson. 

Said it earlier. When Robinson gets abused like a turntable again and they fail to stay on the football field because he's putting them in a hole along with everyone else? Just remember tonight. This team trends in the opposite direction every year. 

The 49ers "vaunted" defense got beat in that SB and the 49ers lacked the fire power to keep up. Our "vaunted" defense in 2017 only gained us a 10 - 6 record against creampuff QBs. We needed speed and pass protection on offense. They let that opportunity slip by them twice tonight because they're more concerned making up for the dick measuring contests they've lost with Ramsey and Ngakoue.

This.

We had two picks and the 49ers had two picks.  Our two picks were higher than their two picks.

But their two picks (Kinlaw, Aiyuk) were better than our two picks, IMO.  I hope I am wrong.

The question with taking Jones or Cleveland - is either one an upgrade over what we have now?  Robinson and Taylor are both 2nd round picks that many people thought would go in the 1st round.  Taylor was up and down last year, a lot of penalties, but showed some promise - and Robinson was ok his rookie year also, now will be 2 years removed from the knee.  If we were going to try to upgrade at Tackle, it would have had to be at #9 or even at #20. I'd rather see us end up with Hunt, who played both Guard and Tackle, but I think projects at Guard and would hopefully be an upgrade over Cann - anything that gets Cann out of the starting line up would be an improvement.  


I also agree that the 49ers two picks are better than our two picks, but I really hope we're both wrong and Chaissen stays healthy and that Henderson can cover like Jalen - if so, I'll take the "occasional" whif in run support.  Nothing we can do now but support them and welcome them to the team - not their fault that Caldwell is our GM.....

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Most likely a SEC player...

Probably Delpit or Davidson from Auburn.

It was Justin Jefferson.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001...h-movement

""So, we get one of our two guys," Caldwell said, referring to Chaisson and one of his LSU teammates, wide receiver Justin Jefferson."

That’s a fantastic read.

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Most likely a SEC player...

Probably Delpit or Davidson from Auburn.

It was Justin Jefferson.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001...h-movement

""So, we get one of our two guys," Caldwell said, referring to Chaisson and one of his LSU teammates, wide receiver Justin Jefferson."

The paragraph after be said we have to take him:

"When the pick became official, Caldwell finally exhaled. He hugged his wife, Joelle, and began looking ahead to Friday, with a chance to land at least one specific player (whose identity he did not want to be revealed, for obvious reasons) who he would have been comfortable selecting at 20."

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I never fault the players unless they do things that damage the team from a PR aspect. Or simply quit on the team and show severe signs of immaturity.

I hope that Henderson and Chaisson come in right away and play like a pair of seamless veterans that have us all saying "Jalen who? Yannick who?". But on paper and from the stat sheets it's hard to feel "warm and fuzzy" right now.

I don't like seeing players regress in college. Henderson regressed in 2019. If he was as good as Okudah he would have been selected by Detroit. If he was good as advertised. Atlanta would have come up for him.

Add in his unwilligness to get his hands dirty in the tackling department, at his size? That's a problem. Chaisson didn't have enough on paper for me. The ACL and ankle injury is a concern. Seems like we drafted a Jack of all Trades with a Master of None project and Wash and Co. lack the chops to pull anything out of most of the talent they've had over the years.

These were off setting selections to make up for the losses off Ramsey and Ngakoue. Instead of supporting your 2nd year QB they opted to invest in a CB that regressed and a tweener at DE/OLB that has a history of injuries. Still plenty of choices left to make. They might get it done.

I'll remain optimistic. But don't be shocked if they draft Taylor, Swift ot Akers tonight very, very early in RD2 to backfill Fournette's spot on the roster as they've had him on the trading block now for awhile.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

We're not picking a RB early in rd 2.

The only way I see us picking a RB today is if we move back in and use our draft capital to trade back up - and even then that is a stretch. Ideally, I see us taking a RB tomorrow somewhere in Rds 4-7.

I'm thinking that if Delpit slides a few more picks that we will swoop in to select him near the top of Rd 2.

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We're not picking a RB early in rd 2.

The only way I see us picking a RB today is if we move back in and use our draft capital to trade back up - and even then that is a stretch. Ideally, I see us taking a RB tomorrow somewhere in Rds 4-7.

I'm thinking that if Delpit slides a few more picks that we will swoop in to select him near the top of Rd 2.

Needed a CB. Drafted one.
Needed a DE. Drafted one. 

Fournette on the trading block in a contract year with Swift and Taylor potentially on the board with the 42nd overall pick? It's a possibility.

Caldwell has a tendency to trade up in RD2 as well and with three picks in RD4 and two picks in RD5 and RD6 there's a good chance he's coming back up tonight in RD2 to draft Fournette's replacement. 

Taylor, Swift, Perine or Akers will be a Jaguar by the end of tonight.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

We're not picking a RB early in rd 2.

The only way I see us picking a RB today is if we move back in and use our draft capital to trade back up - and even then that is a stretch. Ideally, I see us taking a RB tomorrow somewhere in Rds 4-7.

I'm thinking that if Delpit slides a few more picks that we will swoop in to select him near the top of Rd 2.

Needed a CB. Drafted one.
Needed a DE. Drafted one. 

Fournette on the trading block in a contract year with Swift and Taylor potentially on the board with the 42nd overall pick? It's a possibility.

Caldwell has a tendency to trade up in RD2 as well and with three picks in RD4 and two picks in RD5 and RD6 there's a good chance he's coming back up tonight in RD2 to draft Fournette's replacement. 

Taylor, Swift, Perine or Akers will be a Jaguar by the end of tonight.

I wouldn't be super hyped about taking a RB so early... I think Perine will make it to round 4.
We should probably nab WR and RG with our next two picks, imo.
Then look to RB, TE, DT in round 4/5

But that's just like, my opinion, man.

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We're not picking a RB early in rd 2.

The only way I see us picking a RB today is if we move back in and use our draft capital to trade back up - and even then that is a stretch. Ideally, I see us taking a RB tomorrow somewhere in Rds 4-7.

I'm thinking that if Delpit slides a few more picks that we will swoop in to select him near the top of Rd 2.

Needed a CB. Drafted one.
Needed a DE. Drafted one. 

Fournette on the trading block in a contract year with Swift and Taylor potentially on the board with the 42nd overall pick? It's a possibility.

Caldwell has a tendency to trade up in RD2 as well and with three picks in RD4 and two picks in RD5 and RD6 there's a good chance he's coming back up tonight in RD2 to draft Fournette's replacement. 

Taylor, Swift, Perine or Akers will be a Jaguar by the end of tonight.

I hope you’re wrong. That would the worst possible scenario for tonight. You’d figure they’d learn by now to stop wasting valuable assets on running backs.

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Needed a CB. Drafted one.
Needed a DE. Drafted one. 

Fournette on the trading block in a contract year with Swift and Taylor potentially on the board with the 42nd overall pick? It's a possibility.

Caldwell has a tendency to trade up in RD2 as well and with three picks in RD4 and two picks in RD5 and RD6 there's a good chance he's coming back up tonight in RD2 to draft Fournette's replacement. 

Taylor, Swift, Perine or Akers will be a Jaguar by the end of tonight.

I wouldn't be super hyped about taking a RB so early... I think Perine will make it to round 4.
We should probably nab WR and RG with our next two picks, imo.
Then look to RB, TE, DT in round 4/5

But that's just like, my opinion, man.

I agree with you. I just have a feeling Caldwell is all in and hell bent on making up for Coughlin's mistakes. Fournette was Coughlin's guy by all accounts. 

If you don't take a RB early, much like the WR position last night. You run the risk of seeing a run at the RB position and you'll miss out on one of the better backs. 

Taylor, Swift and Akers will be lucky to make it out of RD2. Perine is okay. Not a fan of him. But he is a Gator. So there's that.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

It was Justin Jefferson.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001...h-movement

""So, we get one of our two guys," Caldwell said, referring to Chaisson and one of his LSU teammates, wide receiver Justin Jefferson."

The paragraph after be said we have to take him:

"When the pick became official, Caldwell finally exhaled. He hugged his wife, Joelle, and began looking ahead to Friday, with a chance to land at least one specific player (whose identity he did not want to be revealed, for obvious reasons) who he would have been comfortable selecting at 20."

I think it is Mims, Blacklock, Mckinney or Delpit

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What this draft tells me is that the organization is still not convinced Minshew is the guy. I know that they felt like they had a better team with him at QB as opposed to a fragile and non-mobile Foles, but I don’t think they view GM as the long term answer

So they went with the less risky picks on defense in the early round

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I wouldn't be super hyped about taking a RB so early... I think Perine will make it to round 4.
We should probably nab WR and RG with our next two picks, imo.
Then look to RB, TE, DT in round 4/5

But that's just like, my opinion, man.

I agree with you. I just have a feeling Caldwell is all in and hell bent on making up for Coughlin's mistakes. Fournette was Coughlin's guy by all accounts. 

If you don't take a RB early, much like the WR position last night. You run the risk of seeing a run at the RB position and you'll miss out on one of the better backs. 

Taylor, Swift and Akers will be lucky to make it out of RD2. Perine is okay. Not a fan of him. But he is a Gator. So there's that.

Still thinking Caldwell follows his M.O. of 2nd round WRs...whether that's at 42 or jumping in at the tail end of the 2nd.

I think one of Delpit/Winfield/Blacklock will be the pick at 42.

And he will probably follow with his usual OG pick in round 3.

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I wouldn't be super hyped about taking a RB so early... I think Perine will make it to round 4.
We should probably nab WR and RG with our next two picks, imo.
Then look to RB, TE, DT in round 4/5

But that's just like, my opinion, man.

I agree with you. I just have a feeling Caldwell is all in and hell bent on making up for Coughlin's mistakes. Fournette was Coughlin's guy by all accounts. 

If you don't take a RB early, much like the WR position last night. You run the risk of seeing a run at the RB position and you'll miss out on one of the better backs. 

Taylor, Swift and Akers will be lucky to make it out of RD2. Perine is okay. Not a fan of him. But he is a Gator. So there's

I like the sound of jumping back in round  2 for a stud RB. If we get that and a WR with current round 2 pick I'd be very happy.

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Like I said, the ONLY way we draft a RB is if we trade back into the 2nd or 3rd round with our extra draft capital.

Otherwise, I just do not see ANY way we are drafting a RB at #42 early in the 2nd round like you mentioned Caldrac.

Some people are just overvaluing RBs especially when there is a bevy of talented players playing different positions still available.

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2nd Round is loaded with talent no one is going to trade away their second rounders for 3rd, 4th, or 5th round picks in exchange.

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A True Fan ladies and gentlemen:

Ramsey for Grier straight up

Needed a CB. Drafted one.
Needed a DE. Drafted one. 

Fournette on the trading block in a contract year with Swift and Taylor potentially on the board with the 42nd overall pick? It's a possibility.

Caldwell has a tendency to trade up in RD2 as well and with three picks in RD4 and two picks in RD5 and RD6 there's a good chance he's coming back up tonight in RD2 to draft Fournette's replacement. 

Taylor, Swift, Perine or Akers will be a Jaguar by the end of tonight.

I wouldn't be super hyped about taking a RB so early... I think Perine will make it to round 4.
We should probably nab WR and RG with our next two picks, imo.
Then look to RB, TE, DT in round 4/5

But that's just like, my opinion, man.

You think they can wait until Round 4 for rotational DT as a rookie?

I worry there won't be any good ones left, and I view that as a bigger hole than WR or RG.

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I never fault the players unless they do things that damage the team from a PR aspect. Or simply quit on the team and show severe signs of immaturity.

I hope that Henderson and Chaisson come in right away and play like a pair of seamless veterans that have us all saying "Jalen who? Yannick who?". But on paper and from the stat sheets it's hard to feel "warm and fuzzy" right now.

I don't like seeing players regress in college. Henderson regressed in 2019. If he was as good as Okudah he would have been selected by Detroit. If he was good as advertised. Atlanta would have come up for him.

Add in his unwilligness to get his hands dirty in the tackling department, at his size? That's a problem. Chaisson didn't have enough on paper for me. The ACL and ankle injury is a concern. Seems like we drafted a Jack of all Trades with a Master of None project and Wash and Co. lack the chops to pull anything out of most of the talent they've had over the years.

These were off setting selections to make up for the losses off Ramsey and Ngakoue. Instead of supporting your 2nd year QB they opted to invest in a CB that regressed and a tweener at DE/OLB that has a history of injuries. Still plenty of choices left to make. They might get it done.

I'll remain optimistic. But don't be shocked if they draft Taylor, Swift ot Akers tonight very, very early in RD2 to backfill Fournette's spot on the roster as they've had him on the trading block now for awhile.

Agreed with this.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

I never fault the players unless they do things that damage the team from a PR aspect. Or simply quit on the team and show severe signs of immaturity.

I hope that Henderson and Chaisson come in right away and play like a pair of seamless veterans that have us all saying "Jalen who? Yannick who?". But on paper and from the stat sheets it's hard to feel "warm and fuzzy" right now.

I don't like seeing players regress in college. Henderson regressed in 2019. If he was as good as Okudah he would have been selected by Detroit. If he was good as advertised. Atlanta would have come up for him.

Add in his unwilligness to get his hands dirty in the tackling department, at his size? That's a problem. Chaisson didn't have enough on paper for me. The ACL and ankle injury is a concern. Seems like we drafted a Jack of all Trades with a Master of None project and Wash and Co. lack the chops to pull anything out of most of the talent they've had over the years.

These were off setting selections to make up for the losses off Ramsey and Ngakoue. Instead of supporting your 2nd year QB they opted to invest in a CB that regressed and a tweener at DE/OLB that has a history of injuries. Still plenty of choices left to make. They might get it done.

I'll remain optimistic. But don't be shocked if they draft Taylor, Swift ot Akers tonight very, very early in RD2 to backfill Fournette's spot on the roster as they've had him on the trading block now for awhile.

About Atlanta and Henderson- I heard this morning, I think it was on the radio, that Atlanta tried to get up to #5, 6, 7, and 8 to select Henderson, and for a variety of reasons, those teams were not willing to make a trade.

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I agree there is still tons of WRs out there.
Hunt looks promising but is a RT.
I think at least half of these guys are off the board by the end of the second round.
I think at least two of these safeties are gone in the second round.  maybe, maybe Davis is there in round 3.

I think a relevant question is how would you prioritize the positions?

Need?  BAP?

Which positions would you address and in which order?

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This.

We had two picks and the 49ers had two picks.  Our two picks were higher than their two picks.

But their two picks (Kinlaw, Aiyuk) were better than our two picks, IMO.  I hope I am wrong.

The question with taking Jones or Cleveland - is either one an upgrade over what we have now?  Robinson and Taylor are both 2nd round picks that many people thought would go in the 1st round.  Taylor was up and down last year, a lot of penalties, but showed some promise - and Robinson was ok his rookie year also, now will be 2 years removed from the knee.  If we were going to try to upgrade at Tackle, it would have had to be at #9 or even at #20. I'd rather see us end up with Hunt, who played both Guard and Tackle, but I think projects at Guard and would hopefully be an upgrade over Cann - anything that gets Cann out of the starting line up would be an improvement.  


I also agree that the 49ers two picks are better than our two picks, but I really hope we're both wrong and Chaissen stays healthy and that Henderson can cover like Jalen - if so, I'll take the "occasional" whif in run support.  Nothing we can do now but support them and welcome them to the team - not their fault that Caldwell is our GM.....

  That is a good question.  I hadn't studied either of them too much.  I liked some of what I saw from Jones in the Senior Bowl.

I think if T was a priority, I agree we would have done so at 9.

I am rooting like hell for our guys to succeed wildly.

I just hope if they DO succeed wildly, we will do a better job in retaining our top talent.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

6 WRs in the first round. Almost seems like the NFL is all about scoring points these days.

Yes a reach, I get why they did it though.  We had a desperate need at CB.  As I said, not mad about the pick.  

There were several more talented players than him on the board that we passed on in my opinion.

Wirfs
Jeudy/ Lamb
Wills

CJ fills a huge need and we passed on more talented players (imo) to fill it.  That is why I called it a reach.

It's a reach. He's not a complete CB at that. He's a cover corner that will shy away from contact and tackling. I expect him to get jammed a lot and to be trailing a lot with his speed. Sometimes that works. Sometimes it doesn't. 

He was more productive in 2018 and dipped in performance in 2019. They wanted Okudah. Couldn't get Detroit to move off from the 3rd overall pick. That's fine. But they had the pick of the litter at WR, an opportunity to draft a tackle in Wirfs who could push Taylor to LT and move Robinson to G. 

It feels like they panicked. I would have been fine with Diggs, Johnson or Fulton tomorrow night in RD2. Darrell Taylor at DE tomorrow night as well instead of Chaisson. Really concerned with that selection. Feels like a need pick to move on from Ngakoue. 

Unlike Ngakoue though Chaisson really doesn't have the numbers and an injury concern coming out of LSU that Ngakoue didn't have coming out of Maryland. The defense was an issue. That's fine. What's not fine though is keeping Wash around to coach it again. 

They left Minshew out to dry tonight. He lost tonight. They might get a receiver like Higgins, Mims or Pittman Jr. Or they might get a tackle like Cleveland, Jones or Adams. But that group is vastly less dynamic than the likes of Wirfs, Lamb, Jeudy, Ruggs and Jefferson. 

Said it earlier. When Robinson gets abused like a turntable again and they fail to stay on the football field because he's putting them in a hole along with everyone else? Just remember tonight. This team trends in the opposite direction every year. 

The 49ers "vaunted" defense got beat in that SB and the 49ers lacked the fire power to keep up. Our "vaunted" defense in 2017 only gained us a 10 - 6 record against creampuff QBs. We needed speed and pass protection on offense. They let that opportunity slip by them twice tonight because they're more concerned with making up for the dick measuring contests they've lost with Ramsey and Ngakoue.

Lol , Taylor is not a left tackle

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