Another Deep Stater caught lying.  He was smart enough not to continue the lie while under oath, but more than willing to alter the official transcript of Trump's famous perfect call.

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman admitted he made up elements of President Donald Trump’s call with Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelensky in an official summary.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/...l-summary/

Bro, you cannot quote Breitbart if you want anyone to take you seriously.  Find more sources to corroborate if it's true, please.

Childish

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Obama last week:

“The news over the last 24 hours I think has been somewhat downplayed — about the Justice Department dropping charges against Michael Flynn,” Obama said. “And the fact that there is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free".

Jan 17, 2017:

Obama Pardons James Cartwright, General Who Lied to F.B.I. in Leak Case

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/po...-case.html

I guess Obama is misspeaking in the quote.
Yes, you could say that both general Flynn and general Cartwright got off Scott free.
But how they got away with it is very different. Presidents have been pardoning people since the beginning of this country. Sometimes they pardon people for personal or political reasons. It's always been that way.
Sometimes people are wrongfully convicted of stuff. Sometimes pardons fix that. Sometimes the governor or the President says, "he was wrongfully convicted, so I'm fixing that." But usually it's the previous set of prosecutors who made the mistake.  For the President to pardon Flynn, when his own prosecutors convicted him, would be unprecedented.  For the President to step in and say, "actually, don't prosecute that guy anymore... is beyond unprecedented.

Lol...

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Another Deep Stater caught lying.  He was smart enough not to continue the lie while under oath, but more than willing to alter the official transcript of Trump's famous perfect call.

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman admitted he made up elements of President Donald Trump’s call with Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelensky in an official summary.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/...l-summary/

Bro, you cannot quote Breitbart if you want anyone to take you seriously.  Find more sources to corroborate if it's true, please.

What other major media outlet is going to follow this? Hint...none!

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Another Deep Stater caught lying.  He was smart enough not to continue the lie while under oath, but more than willing to alter the official transcript of Trump's famous perfect call.

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman admitted he made up elements of President Donald Trump’s call with Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelensky in an official summary.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/...l-summary/

Bro, you cannot quote Breitbart if you want anyone to take you seriously.  Find more sources to corroborate if it's true, please.

Bro, I'm really sorry Breitbart was one of the ones to bring you this bad news, but ANYONE - EVEN YOU could have reported the inconsistencies between the transcripts of Vindman's Congressional testimony vs. his recently-released testimony in Schiff's Secret Bunker.

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Maybe the one making the ultimate accusation could articulate said accusation a little, um, better? 

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/12599...69184?s=20

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I'll play you in ping pong. 

I guess Obama is misspeaking in the quote.
Yes, you could say that both general Flynn and general Cartwright got off Scott free.
But how they got away with it is very different. Presidents have been pardoning people since the beginning of this country. Sometimes they pardon people for personal or political reasons. It's always been that way.
Sometimes people are wrongfully convicted of stuff. Sometimes pardons fix that. Sometimes the governor or the President says, "he was wrongfully convicted, so I'm fixing that." But usually it's the previous set of prosecutors who made the mistake.  For the President to pardon Flynn, when his own prosecutors convicted him, would be unprecedented.  For the President to step in and say, "actually, don't prosecute that guy anymore... is beyond unprecedented.

Tell me you don't know that they were career prosecutors? A president doesn't just come in and replace every single bureaucrat. Calling them "his own prosecutors" is a flat out lie. But then you've been know to do that lots of times on this board.

Setting the perjury trap on Flynn was done by the FBI under Obama's orders. This was carried out by FBI agents and Justice Department people who were there before Trump took office. Yes it's unprecedented. It's unprecedented that the previous administration would use the FBI to propagate false charges in an attempt to oust the duly elected President.

Lol.  You don't let me make up words.  You shouldn't let Hannity make up words either.
Seriously.  Do a Google ngram search on "perjury trap."

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Maybe the one making the ultimate accusation could articulate said accusation a little, um, better? 

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/12599...69184?s=20

The facts are coming out. There is absolutely no need for POTUS to go into more detail in this setting.

These disrespectful nitwits don't deserve the full attention of the President.

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An interesting aspect of this is the Obama White House knew the Russians did not hack the DNC. Yet Obama kicked out Russian diplomats and introduced sanctions against Russia. When a response from Putin did not come, they tried to pretend that's why they had to find out what Flynn was doing. But they already knew Flynn's call to the diplomat was benign. They also had to know the Russians, before reacting, would wait a few weeks until the new administration was in place. New Trump Admin goes with the "Russians hacked DNC" story because where would they get any intel that it was untrue? - certainly not from the MSM, and the Seth Rich story was considered a major conspiracy theory. So the relationship between Trump and Putin was successfully damaged by Obama.

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Out of curiosity, I'd ask about differentiating between Obama's & Trump's use of Article II as a follow-up, citing Trump himself.

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I'll play you in ping pong. 

Tell me you don't know that they were career prosecutors? A president doesn't just come in and replace every single bureaucrat. Calling them "his own prosecutors" is a flat out lie. But then you've been know to do that lots of times on this board.

Setting the perjury trap on Flynn was done by the FBI under Obama's orders. This was carried out by FBI agents and Justice Department people who were there before Trump took office. Yes it's unprecedented. It's unprecedented that the previous administration would use the FBI to propagate false charges in an attempt to oust the duly elected President.

Lol.  You don't let me make up words.  You shouldn't let Hannity make up words either.
Seriously.  Do a Google ngram search on "perjury trap."

Your complaint is of my use of a term is a typical Leftist changing the subject. I don't watch (listen? read?) Hannity and I have no control over what Hannity says, so your response is pathetic.

"Perjury trap" is a short convenient way of describing what was done to Flynn. Yes, perjury is technically lying in court, but when the law treats lying during Stasi FBI questioning as a crime there is no meaningful difference. Would my using the term "lying to the FBI trap" have satisfied you?

And no, the people running the coup to overthrow a duly elected president were not appointed by Trump, they were appointed by Obama who was running the coup.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

Here we have details on Obama telling Comey and Yates, who would be retained by the new Trump Administration, to hold off telling the White House about the "russian spies" on his staff. If they were Russian spies, why did Obama want them working in the White House? Isn't that treason, to have knowledge of a foreign agent in the WH inner circle and not tell the President?

https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/11/why...istration/

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Obama is the first ex-president in the history of our country to bash his predecessor. Let that sink in for a moment.

Hahahah and you think Trump won’t?! Good grief.

The good news is that he distributes his criticism as he also bashed GW Bush as well (mostly during the startling GOP debates which I dearly miss these days)

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Lol.  You don't let me make up words.  You shouldn't let Hannity make up words either.
Seriously.  Do a Google ngram search on "perjury trap."

Your complaint is of my use of a term is a typical Leftist changing the subject. I don't watch (listen? read?) Hannity and I have no control over what Hannity says, so your response is pathetic.

"Perjury trap" is a short convenient way of describing what was done to Flynn. Yes, perjury is technically lying in court, but when the law treats lying during Stasi FBI questioning as a crime there is no meaningful difference. Would my using the term "lying to the FBI trap" have satisfied you?

And no, the people running the coup to overthrow a duly elected president were not appointed by Trump, they were appointed by Obama who was running the coup.

All Flynn had to do was tell the truth. He didn't tell the truth to the Vice President either, remember?

Sessions had been AG for a week before Flynn resigned.  Sessions knew about the pending prosecution and could have stopped it.

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Obama is the first ex-president in the history of our country to bash his predecessor. Let that sink in for a moment.

Not true.  https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/20...is-succes/

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Lol.  You don't let me make up words.  You shouldn't let Hannity make up words either.
Seriously.  Do a Google ngram search on "perjury trap."

Your complaint is of my use of a term is a typical Leftist changing the subject. I don't watch (listen? read?) Hannity and I have no control over what Hannity says, so your response is pathetic.

"Perjury trap" is a short convenient way of describing what was done to Flynn. Yes, perjury is technically lying in court, but when the law treats lying during Stasi FBI questioning as a crime there is no meaningful difference. Would my using the term "lying to the FBI trap" have satisfied you?

And no, the people running the coup to overthrow a duly elected president were not appointed by Trump, they were appointed by Obama who was running the coup.

Why is lying to the FBI a "trap" when Flynn and everyone else on the planet knows that lying in an FBI interview is a crime?  It's the same crime that sent Martha Stewart, and probably lots of other people, to jail.  

And the second question is, why did he lie?  He lied about talking to the Russian ambassador several times, and he lied about his lobbying work for Turkey.  Why did he lie about those things?  

In his guilty plea, Flynn said, “I recognize that the actions I acknowledged in court today were wrong, and, through my faith in God, I am working to set things right. My guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the Special Counsel’s Office reflect a decision I made in the best interests of my family and of our country. I accept full responsibility for my actions.” Why has he now changed his mind?  

He also testified in 2018 that he knew it was a crime when he lied to the FBI.  Has he changed his mind?  

Lying to the FBI is a crime.  Everybody knows that.  Flynn has admitted he told several lies in his FBI interview, and he says he knew at the time he told those lies that he knew he was lying and he knew that lying to the FBI is a crime.  He also pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and said he accepted full responsibility.  

So now the question becomes, why is Trump and his administration reversing course on Flynn's crimes?  Obviously, the idea that Flynn was railroaded buttresses this conspiracy theory about the attempted overthrow of a duly elected President.  

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Lying to the FBI means getting one word wrong compared to the printed transcript.

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Your complaint is of my use of a term is a typical Leftist changing the subject. I don't watch (listen? read?) Hannity and I have no control over what Hannity says, so your response is pathetic.

"Perjury trap" is a short convenient way of describing what was done to Flynn. Yes, perjury is technically lying in court, but when the law treats lying during Stasi FBI questioning as a crime there is no meaningful difference. Would my using the term "lying to the FBI trap" have satisfied you?

And no, the people running the coup to overthrow a duly elected president were not appointed by Trump, they were appointed by Obama who was running the coup.

Why is lying to the FBI a "trap" when Flynn and everyone else on the planet knows that lying in an FBI interview is a crime?  It's the same crime that sent Martha Stewart, and probably lots of other people, to jail.  

And the second question is, why did he lie?  He lied about talking to the Russian ambassador several times, and he lied about his lobbying work for Turkey.  Why did he lie about those things?  

In his guilty plea, Flynn said, “I recognize that the actions I acknowledged in court today were wrong, and, through my faith in God, I am working to set things right. My guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the Special Counsel’s Office reflect a decision I made in the best interests of my family and of our country. I accept full responsibility for my actions.” Why has he now changed his mind?  

He also testified in 2018 that he knew it was a crime when he lied to the FBI.  Has he changed his mind?  

Lying to the FBI is a crime.  Everybody knows that.  Flynn has admitted he told several lies in his FBI interview, and he says he knew at the time he told those lies that he knew he was lying and he knew that lying to the FBI is a crime.  He also pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and said he accepted full responsibility.  

So now the question becomes, why is Trump and his administration reversing course on Flynn's crimes?  Obviously, the idea that Flynn was railroaded buttresses this conspiracy theory about the attempted overthrow of a duly elected President.  

It's a trap because the questions asked were asked purely to catch him in a wrong answer. It was a trap because he was assured that he didn't need an attorney. The FBI had a recording of the phone conversation and nothing in it was illegal or even unethical. There was no need to ask him about it other than to trap him. And lying to the FBI is a only crime if it makes a material difference. This was about a phone conversation a month earlier, and he no doubt participated in many phone conversations around that time. Do you remember what you said in every phone conversation you made a month or more ago? Misremembering details is not lying. Also, the notes made at the time by the FBI were changed at least twice afterwards.

As far as him admitting anything, he did it to protect his son. The highlighted text makes that clear. Note that in your quote he never stated that he lied, or even used that word or a synonym. He claimed what he did was "wrong." And IMO agreeing to "help" the FBI investigation was wrong in the sense that it was stupid that he trusted the FBI, so his statement admits nothing criminal. By ruining him for a few statements that didn't agree with the recording they already had the FBI should never again expect cooperation from anyone. They burned that bridge, and all they got out of it was to ruin the life of a decorated former soldier.

Trump "reversed course" after evidence came out that the notes were changed. It is a matter of justice. There is plenty of other evidence that the Obama administration and his deep state allies attempted to overthrow a duly elected president. The vendetta against Flynn just shows how low they were willing to go to get anyone even remotely associated with Trump. Or do you not remember the government assault team showing up at Manafort's home in the wee hours of the morning and frightening his family?

Do you really support Stasi-like actions of the government?

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

Will There Be an Obamagate Reckoning? You Betcha!

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles...whatfinger

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Your complaint is of my use of a term is a typical Leftist changing the subject. I don't watch (listen? read?) Hannity and I have no control over what Hannity says, so your response is pathetic.

"Perjury trap" is a short convenient way of describing what was done to Flynn. Yes, perjury is technically lying in court, but when the law treats lying during Stasi FBI questioning as a crime there is no meaningful difference. Would my using the term "lying to the FBI trap" have satisfied you?

And no, the people running the coup to overthrow a duly elected president were not appointed by Trump, they were appointed by Obama who was running the coup.

All Flynn had to do was tell the truth. He didn't tell the truth to the Vice President either, remember?

Sessions had been AG for a week before Flynn resigned.  Sessions knew about the pending prosecution and could have stopped it.

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Obama is the first ex-president in the history of our country to bash his predecessor. Let that sink in for a moment.

Not true.  https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/20...is-succes/

In truth this has weight.  Comey, Yates, Fauci.  He ran against the deep state why on earth did he listen to a word they said?

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Your complaint is of my use of a term is a typical Leftist changing the subject. I don't watch (listen? read?) Hannity and I have no control over what Hannity says, so your response is pathetic.

"Perjury trap" is a short convenient way of describing what was done to Flynn. Yes, perjury is technically lying in court, but when the law treats lying during Stasi FBI questioning as a crime there is no meaningful difference. Would my using the term "lying to the FBI trap" have satisfied you?

And no, the people running the coup to overthrow a duly elected president were not appointed by Trump, they were appointed by Obama who was running the coup.

Why is lying to the FBI a "trap" when Flynn and everyone else on the planet knows that lying in an FBI interview is a crime?  It's the same crime that sent Martha Stewart, and probably lots of other people, to jail.  

And the second question is, why did he lie?  He lied about talking to the Russian ambassador several times, and he lied about his lobbying work for Turkey.  Why did he lie about those things?  

In his guilty plea, Flynn said, “I recognize that the actions I acknowledged in court today were wrong, and, through my faith in God, I am working to set things right. My guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the Special Counsel’s Office reflect a decision I made in the best interests of my family and of our country. I accept full responsibility for my actions.” Why has he now changed his mind?  

He also testified in 2018 that he knew it was a crime when he lied to the FBI.  Has he changed his mind?  

Lying to the FBI is a crime.  Everybody knows that.  Flynn has admitted he told several lies in his FBI interview, and he says he knew at the time he told those lies that he knew he was lying and he knew that lying to the FBI is a crime.  He also pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and said he accepted full responsibility.  

So now the question becomes, why is Trump and his administration reversing course on Flynn's crimes?  Obviously, the idea that Flynn was railroaded buttresses this conspiracy theory about the attempted overthrow of a duly elected President.  

You think they have a 98% conviction rate because they are good investigators?

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Unmasking the Illegalities of the Obama Administration

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles...ation.html

"Last month, we learned that the U.S. Intelligence Community knew that the Russians preferred Hillary, but then–CIA director John Brennan suppressed that information "over the objections of CIA analysts."

So the Intel agencies were deliberately misleading the President, and look at the years of fake horror by the MSM/Dems that Trump did not believe these scumbags.  Same thing is happening now whenever Trump dares to suggest anything not approved by the institutions that have already failed us - WHO, CDC, Fauci, etc.

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Soooo...do we believe Barr or not?

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I'll play you in ping pong. 

I'm on the fence until more information comes out. I don't subscribe to the idea that the incoming National Security Advisor can't call a foreign diplomat to discuss future relations. Most administrations have done that. The Logan Act, in this case, is ridiculous. That said, Flynn did have some shady dealings with foreign governments. I don't think it was unreasonable that he was on the radar. That doesn't mean that it was acceptable to unmask him and undermine his rights for that phone call. If the FBI thinks he was doing something shady, they don't get to just start spying on an American citizen without a warrant. I think, when it all comes down to it, there's going to be pressure to release the transcript of Flynn's phone call. If he said something that could be criminal, I would be much less inclined to care.

However, Flynn aside. I find it particularly concerning that the FBI wrote "get him to lie or get him fired." Getting him to lie doesn't really bother me, because any time you think a person may be lying, you want to try to catch them in a lie, and I feel that falls within the purview of an investigation. However, it is completely out of bounds for anyone in the FBI to get someone fired. In what world should the FBI enact it's own justice, even if this dude was an informant. At best, it's an abuse of power. Someone needs to be punished.

I tend to believe Barr. I think it would be a fool's errand to go after Obama or Biden. Part of the role of punishment is to deter future abuse of power, and I think hitting Clapper or Comey would be sufficient.

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