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Jaguars coaching candidates? (merged coaching threads)
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(12-27-2020, 04:36 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:(12-27-2020, 04:31 PM)hb1148 Wrote: He was at Ohio State for 7 years. The last four years he went 12-1, 11-2, 12-2, 10-1 and was 3-1 in bowl games. Are you really trying to say that he was playing with someone else's players then? He was at Florida for 6 years, the last 3 he went 13-1, 13-1 before having his worst season where he still won 8 games and went 7-1 in bowl games. Are you saying that was someone else's team? Need to bring a better argument dude. I get that. And I have some reservations about the dude. But I think it was you who pointed out in reference to Trevor Lawrence that all we can go on is what we project about the guy.
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(12-27-2020, 04:31 PM)hb1148 Wrote:(12-27-2020, 04:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: A history of building successfull programs? No lol, they are already built when he gets there, he wins and leaves. He won those championships with other coaches recruits not his. Why would we care about his college record? (12-27-2020, 04:41 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:(12-27-2020, 04:31 PM)hb1148 Wrote: He was at Ohio State for 7 years. The last four years he went 12-1, 11-2, 12-2, 10-1 and was 3-1 in bowl games. Are you really trying to say that he was playing with someone else's players then? He was at Florida for 6 years, the last 3 he went 13-1, 13-1 before having his worst season where he still won 8 games and went 7-1 in bowl games. Are you saying that was someone else's team? Need to bring a better argument dude. It's the only thing we have to go on. Same reason we should take Trevor Lawrence's college record into account.
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(12-27-2020, 04:42 PM)hb1148 Wrote:(12-27-2020, 04:41 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: Why would we care about his college record? I don't care about Lawrence's college record either, I care about his abilities as a player. (12-27-2020, 04:44 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:(12-27-2020, 04:42 PM)hb1148 Wrote: It's the only thing we have to go on. Same reason we should take Trevor Lawrence's college record into account. But you project his abilities as a player in the NFL based on his performance as a player in the NCAA, right? What else are you gonna go on?
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(12-27-2020, 04:47 PM)hb1148 Wrote:(12-27-2020, 04:44 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: I don't care about Lawrence's college record either, I care about his abilities as a player. Sure, I care about how well he recognizes coverage and throws guys open. I'm not sure what the analogue is for college head coaches, but I don't think it's record, because winning in college is nothing like winning in the NFL.
(12-27-2020, 04:31 PM)hb1148 Wrote:(12-27-2020, 04:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: A history of building successfull programs? No lol, they are already built when he gets there, he wins and leaves. He won those championships with other coaches recruits not his. He got to Florida in 05 and won the Championship in 06 and 08. He won with Ron Zook recruits. He got to Ohio St in 12 and won in 14 (12-27-2020, 04:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:(12-27-2020, 04:31 PM)hb1148 Wrote: He was at Ohio State for 7 years. The last four years he went 12-1, 11-2, 12-2, 10-1 and was 3-1 in bowl games. Are you really trying to say that he was playing with someone else's players then? He was at Florida for 6 years, the last 3 he went 13-1, 13-1 before having his worst season where he still won 8 games and went 7-1 in bowl games. Are you saying that was someone else's team? Need to bring a better argument dude. And he kept winning after that in both cases but spin it however you think you need to.
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(12-27-2020, 04:54 PM)hb1148 Wrote:(12-27-2020, 04:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: He got to Florida in 05 and won the Championship in 06 and 08. He won with Ron Zook recruits. He got to Ohio St in 12 and won in 14 Both of those teams are winning now without him We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (12-27-2020, 05:08 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:(12-27-2020, 04:54 PM)hb1148 Wrote: And he kept winning after that in both cases but spin it however you think you need to. Well Ohio State still has his players as you pointed out, give them a couple more years to see. Florida has recovered since Mullin came on board but had some really down years after Meyer left, 4-8, 4-7 etc.
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Check out the Jag's Forum Alternative: Duval Football Fans. (12-27-2020, 05:14 PM)Upper Wrote:(12-27-2020, 04:31 PM)hb1148 Wrote: Guy has a .854 lifetime coaching record. Are you really saying we should aspire higher? Ok, sure but it's going to be really hard to find that guy. I threw 4 TDs in a flag football league 30 years ago. Why draft Trevor when I'm available?
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C'mon guys, his resume is impressive even if we don't want him here.
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(12-27-2020, 05:36 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:(12-27-2020, 05:20 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: C'mon guys, his resume is impressive even if we don't want him here. Pants on head dumb. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
(12-27-2020, 06:01 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:(12-27-2020, 05:36 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: It's a college resume, that means nothing when it comes to NFL coaching. By that rationale, you should never hire a college coach to an NFL coaching position. Which of course, is patently ridiculous.
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(12-27-2020, 06:04 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: Please, god no. The history of college coaches in NFL is not pretty It's on and off. Tom Coughlin did pretty well in his early days. Jimmy Johnson did ok. Pete Carroll. There are others. I'm not arguing for Meyer but I'd rather have him over some crappy retread.
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