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(01-24-2021, 08:40 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 08:37 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: I’m not a Brady fan per se. But I am glad that he is putting an exclamation mark on the debate on credit for Patriots’ success. Plus Aaron Rodgers is arrogant. Brady comes off as a nice guy. The debate about Brady versus Rodgers should be settled forever after today.

Brady has been the GOAT for a while now he is just adding to it.

No doubt. But there are those who want to tout Rodgers as deserving of GOAT talk. He’s not even close. Great talent, but the intangibles aren’t there.
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(01-24-2021, 08:50 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: At this rate, Mahomes will end up being the GOAT. The guy is too good.

Definitely a good chance at that, but he needs to play for another 15+ years.

For now and the foreseeable future, Brady claims that title by a longshot lol.

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(01-24-2021, 08:46 PM)Jags Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 08:37 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: I’m not a Brady fan per se. But I am glad that he is putting an exclamation mark on the debate on credit for Patriots’ success. Plus Aaron Rodgers is arrogant. Brady comes off as a nice guy. The debate about Brady versus Rodgers should be settled forever after today.
You had me until you described their traits, then you lost me.

Rodgers’ arrogance and condescension is palpable. If Brady is that way, he hides it beneath an “Aw, shucks” demeanor.
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(01-24-2021, 08:50 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: At this rate, Mahomes will end up being the GOAT. The guy is too good.

He is currently surrounded by the perfect supporting cast on offense. I could see them keeping things together for maybe 2021, but it will be hard for them to keep this full group together in 2022 and beyond.
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(01-24-2021, 08:51 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: 3rd and 6 and they get 11

Then Hill goes for 33 yards

Nearly half the field in 2 plays. Unreal.

On pretty much every pass play in the NFL a bunch of guys are running open. It's just a question of whether the QB sees it and is capable of making the throw. Mahomes sees it almost every time and probably has the best arm in the NFL.

Until Trevor is ready to compete on Mahomes' level he'll be destroying guys like Josh Allen, who is more like a poor man's Steve Mcnair than Tom Brady.
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(01-24-2021, 08:53 PM)I am Yoda Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 08:40 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Brady has been the GOAT for a while now he is just adding to it.

No doubt. But there are those who want to tout Rodgers as deserving of GOAT talk. He’s not even close. Great talent, but the intangibles aren’t there.

Brady will get GOAT status.  Like it or not.  But I think others realize AR greatness and want to see him go off with another win.  That coupled win TB,TB, TB, TB, TB....  yeah, there is a bunch that wanted to see AR get in and win.
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Another ex-Jag in the playoffs. Yeldon.
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(01-24-2021, 08:56 PM)I am Yoda Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 08:46 PM)Jags Wrote: You had me until you described their traits, then you lost me.

Rodgers’ arrogance and condescension is palpable. If Brady is that way, he hides it beneath an “Aw, shucks” demeanor.

I've don't know. I've seen lots of videos of Brady yelling at teammates coming off the field and on the sidelines.

Neither of them suffer fools, and expect other players and coaches to bring their best. 

Brady is definitely more at home being on camera and talking about his methods and life.
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(01-24-2021, 08:53 PM)I am Yoda Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 08:40 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Brady has been the GOAT for a while now he is just adding to it.

No doubt. But there are those who want to tout Rodgers as deserving of GOAT talk. He’s not even close. Great talent, but the intangibles aren’t there.

Brady is tied with Aaron Rodgers for NFC championships
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(01-24-2021, 08:56 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 08:51 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: 3rd and 6 and they get 11

Then Hill goes for 33 yards

Nearly half the field in 2 plays. Unreal.

On pretty much every pass play in the NFL a bunch of guys are running open. It's just a question of whether the QB sees it and is capable of making the throw. Mahomes sees it almost every time and probably has the best arm in the NFL.

Until Trevor is ready to compete on Mahomes' level he'll be destroying guys like Josh Allen, who is more like a poor man's Steve Mcnair than Tom Brady.

But the Chiefs have so much speed they have 3 guys that can beat you deep and a QB that can throw a 50 yarder right in stride. You have to play that and then they have Kelce wrecking havoc underneath and if somehow you cover all that, you need to stop Mahomes running. 

Too many weapons and can beat you too many ways.
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(01-24-2021, 08:59 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 08:56 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: Rodgers’ arrogance and condescension is palpable. If Brady is that way, he hides it beneath an “Aw, shucks” demeanor.

I've don't know. I've seen lots of videos of Brady yelling at teammates coming off the field and on the sidelines.

Neither of them suffer fools, and expect other players and coaches to bring their best. 

Brady is definitely more at home being on camera and talking about his methods and life.

He holds his teammates accountable, something our QBs or coaches haven't been able to do since Coughlin.  Just another reason he is great and his teammates rise to the occasion
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(01-24-2021, 09:02 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 08:56 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: On pretty much every pass play in the NFL a bunch of guys are running open. It's just a question of whether the QB sees it and is capable of making the throw. Mahomes sees it almost every time and probably has the best arm in the NFL.

Until Trevor is ready to compete on Mahomes' level he'll be destroying guys like Josh Allen, who is more like a poor man's Steve Mcnair than Tom Brady.

But the Chiefs have so much speed they have 3 guys that can beat you deep and a QB that can throw a 50 yarder right in stride. You have to play that and then they have Kelce wrecking havoc underneath and if somehow you cover all that, you need to stop Mahomes running. 

Too many weapons and can beat you too many ways.

The chiefs have great offensive talent, but without Mahomes it wouldn't have near the luster it currently does. It's Mahomes that makes the team look incredible, not the other way around.
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(01-24-2021, 09:04 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 09:02 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: But the Chiefs have so much speed they have 3 guys that can beat you deep and a QB that can throw a 50 yarder right in stride. You have to play that and then they have Kelce wrecking havoc underneath and if somehow you cover all that, you need to stop Mahomes running. 

Too many weapons and can beat you too many ways.

The chiefs have great offensive talent, but without Mahomes it wouldn't have near the luster it currently does. It's Mahomes that makes the team look incredible, not the other way around.
Meh, Mahomes is amazing but it's both
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Would love to have a team competing at this level again. We were there not too long ago, and got a taste
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(01-24-2021, 09:04 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 09:02 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: But the Chiefs have so much speed they have 3 guys that can beat you deep and a QB that can throw a 50 yarder right in stride. You have to play that and then they have Kelce wrecking havoc underneath and if somehow you cover all that, you need to stop Mahomes running. 

Too many weapons and can beat you too many ways.

The chiefs have great offensive talent, but without Mahomes it wouldn't have near the luster it currently does. It's Mahomes that makes the team look incredible, not the other way around.

Of course. Mahomes is a freak but Kelce, Hill and Andy Reid are pulling their weight there. It's not just all Mahomes
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(01-24-2021, 09:02 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 08:56 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: On pretty much every pass play in the NFL a bunch of guys are running open. It's just a question of whether the QB sees it and is capable of making the throw. Mahomes sees it almost every time and probably has the best arm in the NFL.

Until Trevor is ready to compete on Mahomes' level he'll be destroying guys like Josh Allen, who is more like a poor man's Steve Mcnair than Tom Brady.

But the Chiefs have so much speed they have 3 guys that can beat you deep and a QB that can throw a 50 yarder right in stride. You have to play that and then they have Kelce wrecking havoc underneath and if somehow you cover all that, you need to stop Mahomes running. 

Too many weapons and can beat you too many ways.

It’s awe inspiring, really.
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(01-24-2021, 09:11 PM)I am Yoda Wrote:
(01-24-2021, 09:02 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: But the Chiefs have so much speed they have 3 guys that can beat you deep and a QB that can throw a 50 yarder right in stride. You have to play that and then they have Kelce wrecking havoc underneath and if somehow you cover all that, you need to stop Mahomes running. 

Too many weapons and can beat you too many ways.

It’s awe inspiring, really.

It really is. Like picking your own poison. They know there are so few teams even talent wise that can stop them in full flow, even if you schemed it perfectly.

I remember the Rams 'Greatest Show on Turf'. Could beat you so many ways, seemed unstoppable for a while.
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(01-24-2021, 07:11 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Ask Vic has become the GB discussion board. I can't wait to read all the tears and sorrow tomorrow.

NGL, I am looking forward to the same thing. He gets so much GB questions.


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Wouldn't it be a complete #becausejaguars moment if Rodgers ended his career in Indy?
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