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Stock Market under President Biden


(02-03-2021, 10:33 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(02-03-2021, 10:27 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: I'm just supporting the opinions of health experts as I'm not the most educated person with regard to infectious diseases.

Back on topic -- I think GME is done and will revert back to $40ish or less.  I'll get back in on AMC if it dips below $6.

Update:  just noticed GME is up 28% in the premarket --- dang thing just won't die.  wow

Cuban pushing it.

CUBAN needs to buy the freaking Pirates !!!  He's from Pittsburgh and was in the mix to buy the Cubs a few years ago.  The Pirates are a total joke.  They now lost their Garret Cole and Jameson Taillon (former #1 and #2 picks in the entire drafts) ..... both are now the top pitchers in the Yankees rotation.  They also traded Pitcher Tyler Glasnow to the Rays for Pitcher Chris Archer.  Archer then left Pittsburgh at the end of his contract and is back with the Rays. 

Worst Franchise in all of sports.....  ok .... rant over.
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(02-05-2021, 05:35 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(02-03-2021, 10:33 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Cuban pushing it.

CUBAN needs to buy the freaking Pirates !!!  He's from Pittsburgh and was in the mix to buy the Cubs a few years ago.  The Pirates are a total joke.  They now lost their Garret Cole and Jameson Taillon (former #1 and #2 picks in the entire drafts) ..... both are now the top pitchers in the Yankees rotation.  They also traded Pitcher Tyler Glasnow to the Rays for Pitcher Chris Archer.  Archer then left Pittsburgh at the end of his contract and is back with the Rays. 

Worst Franchise in all of sports.....  ok .... rant over.

Cubes destroyed the Mavericks. They haven't won a playoff game since their championship run in 2011. Cubes is overrated as an owner. Musk should purchase a team. He is the cool guy now.
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(02-05-2021, 05:32 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(02-05-2021, 05:30 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: OK, I couldn't resist.  Just threw a few $$ back into AMC at $6.85 prior to the close to see if it pops of drops over the weekend.   TDOC and a bunch of other stocks are on fire so this AMC entails very little risk in the grand scheme of things but if I end up making $100k or something like that, I'll treat you all to dinner at my favorite restaurant -- The Golden Corral.  Smile

Maybe you can help pay off someone's student loan debt with your profit?

I'll give them an $11.99 dinner credit but I'm not paying or giving credit for the $2.19 fountain drink.
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(02-05-2021, 05:38 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(02-05-2021, 05:35 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: CUBAN needs to buy the freaking Pirates !!!  He's from Pittsburgh and was in the mix to buy the Cubs a few years ago.  The Pirates are a total joke.  They now lost their Garret Cole and Jameson Taillon (former #1 and #2 picks in the entire drafts) ..... both are now the top pitchers in the Yankees rotation.  They also traded Pitcher Tyler Glasnow to the Rays for Pitcher Chris Archer.  Archer then left Pittsburgh at the end of his contract and is back with the Rays. 

Worst Franchise in all of sports.....  ok .... rant over.

Cubes destroyed the Mavericks. They haven't won a playoff game since their championship run in 2011. Cubes is overrated as an owner. Musk should purchase a team. He is the cool guy now.

Yes, but we kind of have the Jeffrey Dahmer of dating as our owner.  Anything would be an upgrade.  The Mavs are decent but haven't been able to land the combination of 3-elite players that is required to compete for championships in the NBA.  I can't even watch baseball or basketball anymore.
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(02-05-2021, 05:38 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(02-05-2021, 05:32 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Maybe you can help pay off someone's student loan debt with your profit?

I'll give them an $11.99 dinner credit but I'm not paying or giving credit for the $2.19 fountain drink.

(02-05-2021, 05:44 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(02-05-2021, 05:38 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Cubes destroyed the Mavericks. They haven't won a playoff game since their championship run in 2011. Cubes is overrated as an owner. Musk should purchase a team. He is the cool guy now.

Yes, but we kind of have the Jeffrey Dahmer of dating as our owner.  Anything would be an upgrade.  The Mavs are decent but haven't been able to land the combination of 3-elite players that is required to compete for championships in the NBA.  I can't even watch baseball or basketball anymore.

I used to be a diehard NBA fan. Been a die hard Spurs fan since 3rd grade when I found out David Robinson went to my orthodontist here in Jax. I had the best and worst of both worlds being a Spurs/Jags fan.

I started falling out of love with the game when the super-team era began and the happenings last year put the nail in the coffin for me.
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So for some the "Stock Market under President Biden" has turned into a casino.

Meanwhile I'll take my small gains from yet another up day.  NASDAQ at an all time high... good times... for now.


There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.
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(02-05-2021, 06:03 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: So for some the "Stock Market under President Biden" has turned into a casino.

Meanwhile I'll take my small gains from yet another up day.  NASDAQ at an all time high... good times... for now.

NASDAQ is booming but I personally love the progressive industries that support the future (e.g. Telehealth, EVs, weed, lithium, semiconductors, online gambling).  Sure, I have recovery stocks as well (oil, airlines, financial) but this is a once in a 20 year opportunity to ride this wave comparable to the dot.com era.  Also, given the advent of Robinhood and other trading apps, young people are jumping into the market which creates much more investment funds $$ to support these trendy stocks that support future technology and future regulations (legalizing weed and gambling).  If and when it dips, I can always yank my $$ out.  There's a lot of $$ out there and people seem to be placing it into the market --- we never even gave that a thought when I was younger.  We grew up on putting money into 401k and buying rental homes and traditional investments like that.  If the younger generation want to booster companies by investing in the market, have at it  ..... it only benefits us all in the long run.

FYI -- I like Boeing going up to ~ $300+ but I still think we are 3 months away from any real movement of significance.  I'll also jump into Carnival in a few months as well as I think people are looking to Jan 2022 to go on cruises and party it up after 2 years of hibernation.

Why am i here on a Friday evening ?  Dang, I need to re-evaluate my life ..... adios  Smile
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(02-05-2021, 06:56 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(02-05-2021, 06:03 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: So for some the "Stock Market under President Biden" has turned into a casino.

Meanwhile I'll take my small gains from yet another up day.  NASDAQ at an all time high... good times... for now.

NASDAQ is booming but I personally love the progressive industries that support the future (e.g. Telehealth, EVs, weed, lithium, semiconductors, online gambling).  Sure, I have recovery stocks as well (oil, airlines, financial) but this is a once in a 20 year opportunity to ride this wave comparable to the dot.com era.  Also, given the advent of Robinhood and other trading apps, young people are jumping into the market which creates much more investment funds $$ to support these trendy stocks that support future technology and future regulations (legalizing weed and gambling).  If and when it dips, I can always yank my $$ out.  There's a lot of $$ out there and people seem to be placing it into the market --- we never even gave that a thought when I was younger.  We grew up on putting money into 401k and buying rental homes and traditional investments like that.  If the younger generation want to booster companies by investing in the market, have at it  ..... it only benefits us all in the long run.

FYI -- I like Boeing going up to ~ $300+ but I still think we are 3 months away from any real movement of significance.  I'll also jump into Carnival in a few months as well as I think people are looking to Jan 2022 to go on cruises and party it up after 2 years of hibernation.

Why am i here on a Friday evening ?  Dang, I need to re-evaluate my life ..... adios  Smile

Have at it.  As I have said numerous times, I rarely invest in single stocks.  I bought Boeing and Micro$oft during the "China Virus crash" last year when they bottomed out (I got in slightly above the bottom).  Since then I have taken profits a few times and bought new positions.  Both are doing well for me and I'll continue to do the same on the way up.  My only regret is not getting some Apple and Amazon, but I kind of did with the tech ETF that I have also been in.

Regarding Boeing getting to $300, it will happen eventually.  I very much doubt that you will see that kind of move in the next 3 months.

Go ahead and "ride the wave" all that you want.  Any way that you want to look at it, you're not investing.  You're gambling.


There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.
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(This post was last modified: 02-06-2021, 07:13 AM by The Real Marty.)

Right now, I think we are in a bubble, caused by low interest rates and massive stimulus.  

In the long run, we will have a lot of inflation, due to the fact that the Fed will not be able to raise interest rates when inflation does crop up.  The reason they won't want to raise interest rates is because the federal government is going to have such a huge debt, raising interest rates would make the interest on the debt so large that the government wouldn't be able to pay that interest without borrowing even more money.   

At that point, the only way out is to monetize the debt- the fed buys massive amounts of federal debt and forgives it.  It's what a lot of people call "printing money" although of course there's no printing involved.   We will have inflated/devalued the currency in order to make the debt smaller in real terms.  If you can't tax your way out of the debt, impose the hidden tax- inflation.  That's really the only palatable way I see to manage the federal debt.  Inflation devalues the debt in real terms.  They owe the same amount of money, but the money is worth less, so it's easier to service the debt.  

But what happens in the meantime?  We're in a bubble.  Will the bubble pop, or will we just blow bubbles in perpetuity?  

If the bubble pops, we won't have inflation; we'll have deflation, as asset values- stocks, real estate, etc- plummet.  

My prediction is, sometime in the next year or so, the bubble will lose some of its air.  It won't pop, because the government will do everything they can to keep the bubble inflated.  

So how to profit over the next 10 years?   That's the big question.  You can play it safe, with a mixture of stocks, bonds, real estate, cash (not actual currency of course, but short term bank CDs and short term bonds), and commodities like gold.  

Or, if you don't want to play it safe, you can make a bet.  Will the bubble pop and bring deflation, or will the government keep the bubble inflated and cause massive inflation?  In inflation, stocks, real estate, and commodities are good investments.  In deflation, cash is king, because you can pick up assets at discounted prices.  

I guess it depends on whether you are trying to make money or preserve what you have already.  If you want to make money- place your bet.  If on the other hand you only want to preserve what you have- diversify and hope for the best.

But I will stick to what I have said before.  Over the very long term, through good times and bad, inflation, depression, war and peace, the very best place to be is in the stock market, and for 99.9% of investors, the best place in the stock market is an index fund.  Buy it and forget it.  Because when you buy the S&P500, you have invested in 500 of the world's greatest CEOs, whose sole goal in life is to make money, and you will have a share of whatever money they can make.  You can't beat that.  That level of ambition and ingenuity cannot be defeated.
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Anyone have any TaaS ETFs or mutual funds that they like? Hurricane seems to be into the EV investments but what about EV combined with autonomy?
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(This post was last modified: 02-06-2021, 12:07 PM by HURRICANE!!!.)

(02-05-2021, 07:29 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Go ahead and "ride the wave" all that you want.  Any way that you want to look at it, you're not investing.  You're gambling.

That's a ridiculous statement.  keep an eye on the market 24/7 even through the extended hours and premarket.  I can divest at any point in time between 9:30am and 4pm.  Making highly educated transactions based on the current market is not gambling, it's actually taking advantage of a very unique market that we may never see again. 

Regarding Boeing, I meant that notable increases should start to occur in ~ 3 months but my prediction to $300 (a 50% increase) is estimated to occur in 2 years or so.
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(02-06-2021, 06:58 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Right now, I think we are in a bubble, caused by low interest rates and massive stimulus.  

In the long run, we will have a lot of inflation, due to the fact that the Fed will not be able to raise interest rates when inflation does crop up.  The reason they won't want to raise interest rates is because the federal government is going to have such a huge debt, raising interest rates would make the interest on the debt so large that the government wouldn't be able to pay that interest without borrowing even more money.   

At that point, the only way out is to monetize the debt- the fed buys massive amounts of federal debt and forgives it.  It's what a lot of people call "printing money" although of course there's no printing involved.   We will have inflated/devalued the currency in order to make the debt smaller in real terms.  If you can't tax your way out of the debt, impose the hidden tax- inflation.  That's really the only palatable way I see to manage the federal debt.  Inflation devalues the debt in real terms.  They owe the same amount of money, but the money is worth less, so it's easier to service the debt.  

But what happens in the meantime?  We're in a bubble.  Will the bubble pop, or will we just blow bubbles in perpetuity?  

If the bubble pops, we won't have inflation; we'll have deflation, as asset values- stocks, real estate, etc- plummet.  

My prediction is, sometime in the next year or so, the bubble will lose some of its air.  It won't pop, because the government will do everything they can to keep the bubble inflated.  

So how to profit over the next 10 years?   That's the big question.  You can play it safe, with a mixture of stocks, bonds, real estate, cash (not actual currency of course, but short term bank CDs and short term bonds), and commodities like gold.  

Or, if you don't want to play it safe, you can make a bet.  Will the bubble pop and bring deflation, or will the government keep the bubble inflated and cause massive inflation?  In inflation, stocks, real estate, and commodities are good investments.  In deflation, cash is king, because you can pick up assets at discounted prices.  

I guess it depends on whether you are trying to make money or preserve what you have already.  If you want to make money- place your bet.  If on the other hand you only want to preserve what you have- diversify and hope for the best.

But I will stick to what I have said before.  Over the very long term, through good times and bad, inflation, depression, war and peace, the very best place to be is in the stock market, and for 99.9% of investors, the best place in the stock market is an index fund.  Buy it and forget it.  Because when you buy the S&P500, you have invested in 500 of the world's greatest CEOs, whose sole goal in life is to make money, and you will have a share of whatever money they can make.  You can't beat that.  That level of ambition and ingenuity cannot be defeated.

Spot on
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(02-06-2021, 11:59 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(02-05-2021, 07:29 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Go ahead and "ride the wave" all that you want.  Any way that you want to look at it, you're not investing.  You're gambling.

That's a ridiculous statement.  keep an eye on the market 24/7 even through the extended hours and premarket.  I can divest at any point in time between 9:30am and 4pm.  Making highly educated transactions based on the current market is not gambling, it's actually taking advantage of a very unique market that we may never see again. 

Regarding Boeing, I meant that notable increases should start to occur in ~ 3 months but my prediction to $300 (a 50% increase) is estimated to occur in 2 years or so.

Laughing

"Highly educated transactions".

Laughing

"Keep an eye on the market 24/7".

Laughing

Go ahead and gamble away.  I won't lose any sleep at night knowing that there are others just like you gambling away on the stock market.


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(02-06-2021, 05:01 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 11:59 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: That's a ridiculous statement.  keep an eye on the market 24/7 even through the extended hours and premarket.  I can divest at any point in time between 9:30am and 4pm.  Making highly educated transactions based on the current market is not gambling, it's actually taking advantage of a very unique market that we may never see again. 

Regarding Boeing, I meant that notable increases should start to occur in ~ 3 months but my prediction to $300 (a 50% increase) is estimated to occur in 2 years or so.

Laughing

"Highly educated transactions".

Laughing

"Keep an eye on the market 24/7".

Laughing

Go ahead and gamble away.  I won't lose any sleep at night knowing that there are others just like you gambling away on the stock market.

When the market's going up, everyone's a genius.
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(02-07-2021, 10:38 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 05:01 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Laughing

"Highly educated transactions".

Laughing

"Keep an eye on the market 24/7".

Laughing

Go ahead and gamble away.  I won't lose any sleep at night knowing that there are others just like you gambling away on the stock market.

When the market's going up, everyone's a genius.

The key is about maximizing your gains when the market is up and minimizing you losses when the market is down, it's not about running parallel to the market.  I actually welcome dips because they create an opportunities.   Personally, I don't feel like I'm "gambling" as I got into innovative growth stocks like Roku and Square.  Most would say investing in Boeing is the real gamble as business travel will remain stagnant in 2021 AND the 737 Max has extreme inherent risk that doesn't need further detail. 

... for the record, I'm pretty much a math/financial geek and actually do have CNBC and Fox Business on my background TV from 7am thru 7pm .... I'd have to say they are correct ~ 80% of the time with their forecasts -- at least it's worked for me (up 12% YTD)
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(02-07-2021, 11:33 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(02-07-2021, 10:38 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: When the market's going up, everyone's a genius.

The key is about maximizing your gains when the market is up and minimizing you losses when the market is down, it's not about running parallel to the market.  I actually welcome dips because they create an opportunities.   Personally, I don't feel like I'm "gambling" as I got into innovative growth stocks like Roku and Square.  Most would say investing in Boeing is the real gamble as business travel will remain stagnant in 2021 AND the 737 Max has extreme inherent risk that doesn't need further detail. 

... for the record, I'm pretty much a math/financial geek and actually do have CNBC and Fox Business on my background TV from 7am thru 7pm .... I'd have to say they are correct ~ 80% of the time with their forecasts -- at least it's worked for me (up 12% YTD)

Laughing  Whatever dude.  Boeing isn't about "business travel" and the 737 Max isn't their only thing, but I know that you know that being that you make "highly educated transactions".   Laughing

Seriously, you are much better off following TRM's advice by investing in an index fund or if you want to get "adventurous" perhaps get into some kind of sector fund.  Both ITA and IXN have done very well for me, though I'm looking more and more at energy.


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(This post was last modified: 02-08-2021, 09:15 AM by StroudCrowd1.)

Interesting. I was just asking a bit ago who takes bitcoin as payment.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/tesl...g-for-cars

Will we see more of this as the Biden administration continues to devalue the dollar with its frivolous spending and stimulus packages?
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(This post was last modified: 02-08-2021, 11:08 AM by HURRICANE!!!.)

(02-07-2021, 04:30 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Laughing  Whatever dude.  Boeing isn't about "business travel" and the 737 Max isn't their only thing, but I know that you know that being that you make "highly educated transactions".   Laughing

Seriously, you are much better off following TRM's advice by investing in an index fund or if you want to get "adventurous" perhaps get into some kind of sector fund.  Both ITA and IXN have done very well for me, though I'm looking more and more at energy.

SQ, ROKU, TSLA, TDOC, DIS, NVDA, TSM, TWTR all hitting it out of the park today.

BA looking good as well.

i almost want to sell of and call it a year.
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(This post was last modified: 02-08-2021, 01:49 PM by The Real Marty.)

(02-08-2021, 11:03 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(02-07-2021, 04:30 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Laughing  Whatever dude.  Boeing isn't about "business travel" and the 737 Max isn't their only thing, but I know that you know that being that you make "highly educated transactions".   Laughing

Seriously, you are much better off following TRM's advice by investing in an index fund or if you want to get "adventurous" perhaps get into some kind of sector fund.  Both ITA and IXN have done very well for me, though I'm looking more and more at energy.

SQ, ROKU, TSLA, TDOC, DIS, NVDA, TSM, TWTR all hitting it out of the park today.

BA looking good as well.

i almost want to sell of and call it a year.

I can tell you from personal experience and observation that you will never make big money by buying and selling stocks.  You make really big money by buying and holding stocks.  

I knew an old fart who showed me a brokerage statement from around 1982, and he apparently had owned a few hundred shares of Wal-Mart.  I asked him, what happened to those shares?  He had no idea.  But I do know what happened.  He made a profit and sold them, thereby missing several decades of growth in the value of that stock.  I'm sure he did this over and over in his life.  Made a profit, and sold.  

Buying and selling means you pick an entry point, pick an exit point, and if you have any gains, paying the income tax on the gains, then taking whatever is left and picking a new entrance point, and a new exit point, and hoping you're right every time, and in the meantime, taxes taxes taxes.  That's just a game, and you'll never get rich that way.
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