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53 Man Roster Projection
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I was looking at the roster and tried to project the final 53 man roster based upon where I would likely use draft picks. Below is what I have.
Quarterbacks (2) Trevor Lawrence (Draft Pick) CJ Beathard Notable Trade: Gardner Minshew Notable Cut: Jake Luton Running Backs (4) James Robertson Draft Pick Carlos Hyde Draft Pick Notable Cuts: Our entire last year roster at the position except Robinson. Wide Receiver (6) DJ Chark Laviska Shenault Marvin Jones Collin Johnson Draft Pick Jamal Agnew Notable Cut: Phillip Dorsett (A free agent signing, but an inexpensive one.) Tight End (3) Draft Pick James O'Shaughnessy Chris Manhertz Notable Cut: Tyler Davis (6th round pick from just last year.) Offensive Line (9) Andrew Norwell Brandon Linder AJ Cann Cam Robinson Jawaan Taylor Tyler Shatley Ben Bartch Draft Pick (Offensive Tackle) Draft Pick (Offensive Guard) Notable Cut: Will Richardson (10 offensive linemen would just be too much. I would take an OT early in the draft and he would serve as top backup at OT if he didn't win a starting role.) Defensive Line (7) Malcom Brown Roy Robertson-Harris Dawuane Smoot Davon Hamilton Doug Costin Adam Gotsis Taven Bryan Linebacker (9) Myles Jack Joe Schobert Josh Allen K'Lavon Chaisson Jihad Ward Damien Wilson Shaquille Quarterman Draft Pick Draft Pick Notable Cuts: Leon Jacobs, Quincy Williams (3rd round pick in 2019) Cornerback (5) CJ Henderson Shaquill Griffin Sidney Jones Tre Herndon Chris Claybrooks Notable Cuts: Josiah Scott (4th rounder from just last year) Safety (5) Rayshawn Jenkins Draft Pick Jarrod Wilson Daniel Thomas Rudy Ford Notable Cuts: Josh Jones (starter last year), Andrew Wingard Special Teams (3) Josh Lambo (Kicker) Logan Cooke (Punter) Ross Matiscik (Long Snapper) We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
I don’t think Taven Bryan will make the team. In 48 games Bryan has 1 forced fumble and just 3.5 sacks. He’s even worse at stopping the run. Urban ain’t gonna be havin that.
Nice roster effort. I envision 1 RB change of pace draft pick, and Armstead sticking if he comes back healthy. I think they will keep Phillip Dorsett, with his low cost, experience, speed, and possible upside (Seattle really liked him before the injury last year). I think Taven Bryan is a goner, with a draft pick fortifying DT. My wildcard to challenge for an OL spot is Derwin Gray, who played well developmentally with the Steelers and was picked up off waivers (they needed a temporary different position for game week and supposedly they planned to sign him back).
Josiah Scott makes it over Claybrooks, Gardner makes the team, and Quincy Williams somehow makes the squad. My prediction.
Jihad Ward is a DL, not a LBer. I’d probably drop Taven and have Ward play that spot.
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I still don’t see how Bryan was even drafted. Looking back he should have went undrafted. He’s right up there with Byron Leftwich, Blaine Gabbert, Derrick Harvey, Tyson Alualu, Blake Bortles, Luke Joekle, and RJ Soward.
(04-03-2021, 05:58 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: I don’t think Taven Bryan will make the team. In 48 games Bryan has 1 forced fumble and just 3.5 sacks. He’s even worse at stopping the run. Urban ain’t gonna be havin that. When I posted it, I knew that I would get hate for having Bryan on it. I'm not a fan either and considered other options. However, the first problem is that it isn't a good draft for defensive linemen. The second problem is that defensive linemen don't fall in the draft. If you want a good one, you need to take one early, and I had other positions which I considered to be bigger priorities for our day 1 and day 2 picks. I'm not big on taking a defensive lineman late in the draft. As I said, good ones tend not to fall. Even if you take someone late in the draft who beats out Bryan, how long is he on the team before he's upgraded? One year? I'd prefer to take a position like running back or interior offensive line on day 3 that does tend to drop in the draft and the player may be a long term member of the team. I'm not a Taven Bryan apologist, but we are talking about 3rd string and likely game day inactive. He had enough physically to be drafted in the first round and we have a new defensive line coach, a new defensive coordinator (who spent most of his career as a defensive line coach) and a new 3-4 scheme. I can see them giving Taven a year to see if they can turn him around. I sometimes refer to players like this as a "free raffle ticket". No, you don't expect to win, but if there's little to no cost, you might as well take one.
Losing Alualu probably gets Tater Cakes Bryan on the roster.
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(04-03-2021, 06:31 PM)ATLjag Wrote: Nice roster effort. I envision 1 RB change of pace draft pick, and Armstead sticking if he comes back healthy. I think they will keep Phillip Dorsett, with his low cost, experience, speed, and possible upside (Seattle really liked him before the injury last year). I think Taven Bryan is a goner, with a draft pick fortifying DT. My wildcard to challenge for an OL spot is Derwin Gray, who played well developmentally with the Steelers and was picked up off waivers (they needed a temporary different position for game week and supposedly they planned to sign him back). I went into it expecting to take only 1 RB (a change of pace back). However, after 9 draft picks and got the bottom of the 7th round, I ask the question "What position is most likely to make the team here?". I've heard some very questionable things about whether Armstead will return. I felt a 7th round running back beating out Ozigbo as the most likely to make the team. As a side note, I did the roster under the assumption that we don't trade any draft picks. If it were me, I would probably use some of our picks to trade up. In regards to wide receiver, I don't think the team keeps more than six. Chark, Shenault, Jones and Johnson should all be locks to make the team. I also think Agnew makes the team because of his return abilities. That leaves one spot. If we take a wide receiver in the draft, it means Dorsett is out. I did consider not drafting a wide receiver. However, this is considered a very deep draft for wide receivers. Given that we had 10 picks, I felt one should go there. However, I could maybe be convinced otherwise. I was a little on the fence about it. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(04-04-2021, 02:03 AM)Black and Teal Wrote: Josiah Scott makes it over Claybrooks, Gardner makes the team, and Quincy Williams somehow makes the squad. My prediction. Josiah Scott is largely an unknown to me. We didn't have pre-season last year and he played sparingly in the regular season despite the team being hit with injuries at cornerback. I can only assume he was disappointing in practice. Given that Claybrooks played over Scott in 2020, I'm assuming he's the favorite in 2021. Claybrooks also has the advantage of being able to serve as a backup returner if Agnew were to get injured. In regards to backup quarterback, the team didn't give guaranteed money to Beathard in order to cut him in favor of a player already on the team. If we keep Minshew, we would have to keep 3 quarterbacks. It's possible, but when I look at the 53 man roster and the tough decisions already being made, I assumed they only keep two quarterbacks. As far as Quincy Williams, perhaps, but I had trouble seeing how he fit in the 3-4. I've also always been disappointed with his play.
(04-04-2021, 06:13 AM)HolsterHusto Wrote: Jihad Ward is a DL, not a LBer. I’d probably drop Taven and have Ward play that spot. This gets complicated as different players will play in different spots at times and some of that may even still need to be worked out. I considered listing defensive line and linebackers together, but instead broke them out based upon while the team is in the 3-4. My understanding is that Jihad Ward is a hybrid defensive end and linebacker. While in the 3-4, I speculated he would play at linebacker. You can list him under defensive line if you want, but personally, it wouldn't change who I had on the roster.
(04-04-2021, 02:54 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote:(04-04-2021, 06:13 AM)HolsterHusto Wrote: Jihad Ward is a DL, not a LBer. I’d probably drop Taven and have Ward play that spot. A 287 lb. linebacker who ran a 5.09/40 at his pro day?????? Ward is a bad scheme fit. He needs to be a 3-4 DE/4-3 DT. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(04-04-2021, 07:52 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:(04-04-2021, 02:54 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: This gets complicated as different players will play in different spots at times and some of that may even still need to be worked out. I considered listing defensive line and linebackers together, but instead broke them out based upon while the team is in the 3-4. My understanding is that Jihad Ward is a hybrid defensive end and linebacker. While in the 3-4, I speculated he would play at linebacker. You can list him under defensive line if you want, but personally, it wouldn't change who I had on the roster. Sounds like a 34 end to me
(04-03-2021, 05:58 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: I don’t think Taven Bryan will make the team. In 48 games Bryan has 1 forced fumble and just 3.5 sacks. He’s even worse at stopping the run. Urban ain’t gonna be havin that. Lol .... so, the 1 forced fumble and 3.5 sacks in 3 years was his strength --- OUCH !!! (04-03-2021, 03:39 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: Tight End (3) I think the LB Draft Pick should be moved up to Starter (which is consistent with your TE order). Schobert sucks as a starter but it doesn't pay to release him.
(04-03-2021, 03:39 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: Running Backs (4) Our Draft Pick better be able to catch the ball on 3rd downs. That's a glaring weakness with our current lineup (which include Ryquell Armstead). We desperately need that quick younger version of Darien Sproles type RB We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (04-04-2021, 02:26 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote:I know I am in the minority, but I think Phillip Dorsett (or possibly Jon'vea Johnson) represent a solid player, given it is a WR5/6 spot. I don't see them using a higher draft pick on a WR, given what they have done in free agency.(04-03-2021, 06:31 PM)ATLjag Wrote: Nice roster effort. I envision 1 RB change of pace draft pick, and Armstead sticking if he comes back healthy. I think they will keep Phillip Dorsett, with his low cost, experience, speed, and possible upside (Seattle really liked him before the injury last year). I think Taven Bryan is a goner, with a draft pick fortifying DT. My wildcard to challenge for an OL spot is Derwin Gray, who played well developmentally with the Steelers and was picked up off waivers (they needed a temporary different position for game week and supposedly they planned to sign him back).
(04-05-2021, 12:19 AM)Dimson Wrote:(04-04-2021, 10:07 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: Sounds like a 34 end to me My mistake. While I only knew of Jihad Ward as a defensive lineman, I saw a couple of articles referring to him as either a linebacker or a hybrid defensive end/linebacker so I assumed he played there some and thought it must be in certain 3-4 alignments. However, upon further review, I do think he will play exclusively on the defensive line in Jacksonville. As such, I'll move him to the defensive line on the 53 man roster projection. I'm sure this will come with great joy to many, but it does mean that we say sayonara to Taven Bryan. The move also opens up a spot at linebacker. Which one of the following linebackers do people on here think should make the team:
Taven Bryan is a tweener, we tried to make him play the Calais Campbell "Big End" spot but the truth is he's too big to be a 4-3 DE and he's too small to be a 4-3 DT. 3-4 DE might be his best shot to stick in the league. He has a shot to secure a backup spot if he plays ST's as well. Not sure if he sticks long term but he may hang around for a year given the UF connection with Urban Meyer buying him a smidge of goodwill
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