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Baalke & Urban Press Conference

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(This post was last modified: 04-21-2021, 02:34 PM by Bullseye.)

https://youtu.be/kTOaBiF5qfA

This is really good so far.

Among the things that have come out, they have fielded a couple of calls for the #1 overall pick, but they decided to stay put.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-decision/
 

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(04-21-2021, 02:31 PM)Bullseye Wrote: https://youtu.be/kTOaBiF5qfA

This is really good so far.

Among the things that have come out, they have fielded a couple of calls for the #1 overall pick, but they decided to stay put.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-decision/

I really can't imagine UM deciding to come to Jax, only to have the #1 pick traded away..
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#3

Baalke is mentally challenged.. he has no business being involved in anything money or contract related..
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#4
(This post was last modified: 04-21-2021, 02:47 PM by Bullseye.)

(04-21-2021, 02:37 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(04-21-2021, 02:31 PM)Bullseye Wrote: https://youtu.be/kTOaBiF5qfA

This is really good so far.

Among the things that have come out, they have fielded a couple of calls for the #1 overall pick, but they decided to stay put.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-decision/

I really can't imagine UM deciding to come to Jax, only to have the #1 pick traded away..

Me either.  Part of me thinks they listened for a good laugh or two.  I'd still like to know what was offered when all is said and done.

(04-21-2021, 02:38 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: Baalke is mentally challenged.. he has no business being involved in anything money or contract related..

Don't be shy.  Tell us what you really think!   Laughing
 

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(04-21-2021, 02:41 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(04-21-2021, 02:37 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: I really can't imagine UM deciding to come to Jax, only to have the #1 pick traded away..

Me either.  Part of me thinks they listened for a good laugh or two.  I'd still like to know what was offered when all is said and done.

(04-21-2021, 02:38 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: Baalke is mentally challenged.. he has no business being involved in anything money or contract related..

Don't be shy.  Tell us what you really think!   Laughing

Pretty much.. You really never know what some of these other GM's are thinking.. (Ricky Williams)
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#6

This unfounded trust in the worst offensive line coach in the leagues ability to improve the worst OT tandem in the league is going to be Meyer's undoing.

Definitely pencil in IDL or EDGE at 25/33. Hell I wouldn't hate both, something like Barmore 25 and then Oweh/Ossai at 33 would be dope.
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I thought there were some interesting nuggets....

Urban hopes to get instant impact from higher picks, especially first 4 picks that Mia mentioned.

Urban leans toward need but is learning the value of drafting for value, not need, from Baalke. This acquisition mindset is different than he is used to. When mentioned trades, it was interesting that Baalke did liven up a little and stated they view the situation at the time of the picks (saying for instance may move back 2-3 spots at pick 25 if the players available warrant it). They did indicate that they received a couple calls about the 1st pick but didn't seem to give it much thought, and indicating the owner will be involved with the 1st pick (although not mentioned in this all...a side note is Khan loves a franchise QB and TL).

In having a good team, Urban's priority is building an elite DL (with top 8 defensive goal this year). They added DL in free agency, and are hoping for some on roster to mature, but they are not done yet. Draft is deeper at DL edge positions, but DL interior does have some quality.

In having a good team, OL is next. Thus far, they are going with the starting 5, with 2 young OTs and the vets on the interior. He mentioned again that Warhop likes them. He mentioned Shatley specifically for depth, but did not mention others (ie. Bartch, Richardson...). He said they do plan to bring in some competition from draft.

Urban mentioned that they added speed in free agency, specifically mentioning Dorsett, Jones, and Agnew. However, he also stated that they are always looking to add speed and big-play ability, as it was missing from this team.

I am sure there were some other nuggets. These were the ones I recall.
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(04-21-2021, 03:38 PM)ATLjag Wrote: I thought there were some interesting nuggets....

Urban hopes to get instant impact from higher picks, especially first 4 picks that Mia mentioned.

Urban leans toward need but is learning the value of drafting for value, not need, from Baalke.  This acquisition mindset is different than he is used to.  When mentioned trades, it was interesting that Baalke did liven up a little and stated they view the situation at the time of the picks (saying for instance may move back 2-3 spots at pick 25 if the players available warrant it).  They did indicate that they received a couple calls about the 1st pick but didn't seem to give it much thought, and indicating the owner will be involved with the 1st pick (although not mentioned in this all...a side note is Khan loves a franchise QB and TL).    

In having a good team, Urban's priority is building an elite DL (with top 8 defensive goal this year).  They added DL in free agency, and are hoping for some on roster to mature, but they are not done yet.  Draft is deeper at DL edge positions, but DL interior does have some quality.

In having a good team, OL is next.  Thus far, they are going with the starting 5, with 2 young OTs and the vets on the interior.  He mentioned again that Warhop likes them.  He mentioned Shatley specifically for depth, but did not mention others (ie. Bartch, Richardson...).  He said they do plan to bring in some competition from draft.  

Urban mentioned that they added speed in free agency, specifically mentioning Dorsett, Jones, and Agnew.  However, he also stated that they are always looking to add speed and big-play ability, as it was missing from this team.  

I am sure there were some other nuggets.  These were the ones I recall.

Taken together, I would say there would be an emphasis on DL and speed earlier, with OL picks in the mid rounds if things go according to this.
 

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#10

Some people on here need to watch the video from 4:45 - 5:05
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(04-21-2021, 03:12 PM)Upper Wrote: This unfounded trust in the worst offensive line coach in the leagues ability to improve the worst OT tandem in the league is going to be Meyer's undoing.

Definitely pencil in IDL or EDGE at 25/33. Hell I wouldn't hate both, something like Barmore 25 and then Oweh/Ossai at 33 would be dope.

I don't think Barmore will be there at 25 but would be a great pick. And I love the combo with Ossai or an edge(who apart from the game in which Teven Jenkins destroyed him has very consistent tape to show for) who is a player with a fantastic motor and good upside.
As long as it's not a RB/TE combo at 25-33 I'm fine I guess lol. (Though I'm prepared for a Freiermuth pick at 33 or a trade up from 45 -which would be more acceptable if we make 2 great picks at 25-33-)
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#12

Barmore has been my top guy for a while who I feel has a chance to be there at 25 and I really hope he is. I like how he said edge is deeper than DT. I could see us taking a edge guy in the 3rd or 4th
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#13
(This post was last modified: 04-21-2021, 08:13 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

This interview has me already feeling better about this new regime than Dave's with the emphasis on value and not need. It really seems like they will go true BAP, if the top guy meets need than it's even that much better. Baalke pretty much said today exactly what Bruce Arians said, if you are a needs drafter you will be fired sooner than later
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(04-21-2021, 08:12 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: This interview has me already feeling better about this new regime than Dave's with the emphasis on value and not need.  It really seems like they will go true BAP, if the top guy meets need than it's even that much better.  Baalke pretty much said today exactly what Bruce Arians said, if you are a needs drafter you will be fired sooner than later

Hopefully. If Khan committed to these guys for at least for years there's no excuse not to just go best player. It's not like they have to win right now, they need to build the best team they can over the long term.
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#15
(This post was last modified: 04-21-2021, 08:25 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

(04-21-2021, 08:18 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:
(04-21-2021, 08:12 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: This interview has me already feeling better about this new regime than Dave's with the emphasis on value and not need.  It really seems like they will go true BAP, if the top guy meets need than it's even that much better.  Baalke pretty much said today exactly what Bruce Arians said, if you are a needs drafter you will be fired sooner than later

Hopefully. If Khan committed to these guys for at least for years there's no excuse not to just go best player. It's not like they have to win right now, they need to build the best team they can over the long term.

Exactly, if we were a contender and a player or 2 away I could see the argument for needs drafting.  We are a 1 win team where almost every player can be upgraded, we have no All Pros.  Let's go get some perinial Pro Bowlers or All Pros regardless of position
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(04-21-2021, 08:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(04-21-2021, 08:18 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: Hopefully. If Khan committed to these guys for at least for years there's no excuse not to just go best player. It's not like they have to win right now, they need to build the best team they can over the long term.

Exactly, if we were a contender and a player or 2 away I could see the argument for needs drafting.  We are a 1 win team where almost every player can be upgraded, we have no All Pros.  Let's go get some perinial Pro Bowlers or All Pros regardless of position

It would still be a wrong argument, but I understand the desire to take the shortcut.

Remember the Jaguars in 2008? Even if you think you're one player away, you can't just create the player you need like it's Madden. You can only pick from the players available, and if the one at the position of need isn't good enough to be the best available what makes anyone think they'll be good enough to be that player that completes the puzzle?
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(This post was last modified: 04-21-2021, 08:46 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

(04-21-2021, 08:39 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:
(04-21-2021, 08:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Exactly, if we were a contender and a player or 2 away I could see the argument for needs drafting.  We are a 1 win team where almost every player can be upgraded, we have no All Pros.  Let's go get some perinial Pro Bowlers or All Pros regardless of position

It would still be a wrong argument, but I understand the desire to take the shortcut.

Remember the Jaguars in 2008? Even if you think you're one player away, you can't just create the player you need like it's Madden. You can only pick from the players available, and if the one at the position of need isn't good enough to be the best available what makes anyone think they'll be good enough to be that player that completes the puzzle?
Yeah, I'm the same way, I'm still BAP, but it would make a little more sense.  I like the idea of taking the BAP, in FA is where I would go for need
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#18

Meyer is asking a lot.  He is asking for the first 4 picks to have instant impact.  TBD....
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(04-21-2021, 11:01 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: Meyer is asking a lot.  He is asking for the first 4 picks to have instant impact.  TBD....

He also said he had trouble with the idea of value over need. The move to hire the guy and make him the coach and GM still makes no sense at all to me.
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(04-22-2021, 05:48 AM)SeldomRite Wrote:
(04-21-2021, 11:01 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: Meyer is asking a lot.  He is asking for the first 4 picks to have instant impact.  TBD....

He also said he had trouble with the idea of value over need. The move to hire the guy and make him the coach and GM still makes no sense at all to me.

Coach and GM?

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