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Travis Etienne - Rd1, Pick 25


(04-30-2021, 10:01 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(04-30-2021, 09:51 AM)Ronster Wrote: Because Jaguars. Even the new regime can't get out of their own way and it seems the STUPID sticks to them as well. Why pick a RB in the first round? They Jags have much bigger holes to fill and they pick some stupid RB...

Why pick a RB in the first round?  How many times to I need to post this?  

Since 2005, here is a breakdown of the RBs taken in each round who became 1,000 yard rushers: 

RD 1  
- 55% 15/27
RD 2  - 29% 11/38
RD 3  - 16% 6/37
RD 4  - 7% 3/45
RD 5  - 7% 3/42
RD 6  - 4% 2/46
RD 7  - 2% 1/51

That's why.

Looking at who had been picked at other positions before #25 and who was picked after #25 I like the pick. I look at it this way, if I had a chart of my top 2-3 at positions I wanted pull the trigger. I do not believe Travis would have been available at #33 (yes is my opinion, you are welcome to yours) We are in a good position to address what we want to tonight having the 1st, 13th and 33rd pick. There is a lot of talent left on the board.
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I would have moved up to pick Najee Harris if we were going with a pass catching back and then also moved up to snag Jayson Weah.

Ravens were smart in moving up to get Jayson Weah
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I’m warming up to the selection, but I don’t know how you pass on Jenkins or Moehrig for him. I’m glad they’re at least getting weapons for Lawrence. Keeping Lawrence upright and protected seems like it should be the number one priority, however.
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(04-30-2021, 10:29 AM)Tank Commander Wrote: I would have moved up to pick Najee Harris if we were going with a pass catching back and then also moved up to snag Jayson Weah.

Ravens were smart in moving up to get Jayson Weah
The current state of the Jags maybe shapes their draft principles like below:

1. Never trade up and give up picks, there is no one player that will get you over the hump to the Super Bowl. You need all the picks you have as some will pan out no matter how good your scouts are.
2. Trade down if you can get a really good value in doing so. Stay put if it is not.
3. When selecting players the level of competition they faced on a regular basis in college is very important.
4. If a player had injury problems when in college he will definitely have them at the professional level. Factor that into your decision. The impacts are far greater on average.

So no I would not have moved up for Najee...Wink
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I’d love to trade back with all these guys we love still available
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(This post was last modified: 04-30-2021, 10:49 AM by The Eleventh Doctor.)

I'll just say that I'd much rather pick Etienne than trade up for Najee Harris and leave it at that. If we traded up for anyone, it should've been Darrisaw. Unfortunately I doubt our divisional opponents would let us protect our future QB for cheap. Football Team was probably our best chance at trading up, but the price might've been too high.
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Should have traded up with the Raiders since Mayock is such a total idiot.

Can we just switch for the 17th pick? Your awful pick will be very, very available at our selection.
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(This post was last modified: 04-30-2021, 11:01 AM by iHaunting Raven.)

(04-30-2021, 05:16 AM)Craigukjag Wrote: To call it a bad pick is just wrong. Fair enough you don’t have to like the pick or agree with it but you cannot call it a bad pick when he hasn’t stepped on the field, most good teams have two good running backs these days,

Yes you can find running backs everywhere in the draft but just because you can doesn’t mean you do, pretty much every team drafts a running back every year between 4th round and UDFA and last time I checked every team doesn’t draft a kamara every year.

The team liked the player and felt he fit what they wanted to do, if they had him ranked top of there bored after watching 100s of hours of film then so be it they do much more work on this thing than us.

Let the kid play and see what happens. What ever your opinion non of us truly know if it was a good pick or not

Yeah, because all playoff teams have at least 1 top 10 RB and their #2 is a top 20....

Well, some people never learn... you guys even defended taking a punter in the 3rd round so...

(04-30-2021, 08:12 AM)prime winner Wrote: Some of you guys complaining are a joke.  You guys know more than these professional football guys?  Why, because you've followed the team and know the roster better?  I hope Meyer goes in to McD's today and tells you that you don't know how to flip your burgers or salt your fries.

Hahahahaha I love when people like this come out.

Yeah, clearly Gene Smith knew what he was doing, he was a NFL GM afterall  Laughing
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(04-30-2021, 10:19 AM)JagJohn Wrote: My 2 pennies worth...

Don't take a RB in the first round, especially if you have a boatload of other needs. Always believed this, and always will. Therefore not a big fan of this pick.

However...

There are definitely positives here too. This draft is "The Trevor Draft", and I'm not sure that there was another player at #25 that would be as much of an immediate help to Trevor as Ettiene is. He brings a very different skillset to Robinson and Hyde, and the way Urban talked about him playing outside and in 2 back sets is a plus. Essentially he can become the safety valve for the rookie QB, offering dynamic playmaking ability on higher percentage throws. We now have one of, if not the best, RB groups in the NFL, behind an o-line that did a very good job in the run game for a putrid team last year. Add super blocking TE Manhertz to that too. Again, having an elite running game is a huge boost to a rookie QBs chances of success.

So overall, while I wouldn't have made that pick, I do think he's a hell of a player who will add an extra dimension to the offense and help TLaw to thrive, so I ain't mad.

This is pretty much where my head is at. I think this was a poor use of resources and would not have been my pick.

At the same time, Etienne will be a good player for us and our ground game this year will be very impressive. I will not let his draft status impact how fun I think he will be to watch.
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(04-30-2021, 10:59 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:
(04-30-2021, 05:16 AM)Craigukjag Wrote: To call it a bad pick is just wrong. Fair enough you don’t have to like the pick or agree with it but you cannot call it a bad pick when he hasn’t stepped on the field, most good teams have two good running backs these days,

Yes you can find running backs everywhere in the draft but just because you can doesn’t mean you do, pretty much every team drafts a running back every year between 4th round and UDFA and last time I checked every team doesn’t draft a kamara every year.

The team liked the player and felt he fit what they wanted to do, if they had him ranked top of there bored after watching 100s of hours of film then so be it they do much more work on this thing than us.

Let the kid play and see what happens. What ever your opinion non of us truly know if it was a good pick or not

Yeah, because all playoff teams have at least 1 top 10 RB and their #2 is a top 20....

Well, some people never learn... you guys even defended taking a punter in the 3rd round so...
I’d love for you to tell me where I have ever defended taking a punter in the third round.
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(04-30-2021, 11:13 AM)Craigukjag Wrote:
(04-30-2021, 10:59 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: Yeah, because all playoff teams have at least 1 top 10 RB and their #2 is a top 20....

Well, some people never learn... you guys even defended taking a punter in the 3rd round so...
I’d love for you to tell me where I have ever defended taking a punter in the third round.

"You guys" not Craigukjag. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of those who defended the Anger pick but you obviously wouldn't admit it.
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(04-30-2021, 11:16 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:
(04-30-2021, 11:13 AM)Craigukjag Wrote: I’d love for you to tell me where I have ever defended taking a punter in the third round.

"You guys" not Craigukjag. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of those who defended the Anger pick but you obviously wouldn't admit it.

THIS...^^^^


I call them homers, they go along with whatever they are told to go along with. Lemmings...
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So now we're seriously comparing taking a RB in the first round to taking a punter in the 3rd?
 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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(This post was last modified: 04-30-2021, 11:31 AM by iHaunting Raven.)

(04-30-2021, 11:21 AM)Ronster Wrote:
(04-30-2021, 11:16 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: "You guys" not Craigukjag. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of those who defended the Anger pick but you obviously wouldn't admit it.

THIS...^^^^


I call them homers, they go along with whatever they are told to go along with. Lemmings...

(04-30-2021, 11:25 AM)Bullseye Wrote: So now we're seriously comparing taking a RB in the first round to taking a punter in the 3rd?

Who exactly did that? The point was what Ronster said... (can't believe I actually had to post this...)
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(This post was last modified: 04-30-2021, 11:48 AM by NH3.)

Sooooooooo, we drafted the Best or Second Best RB within the 2021 NFL draft and we're complaining.

NH3...
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Okay, so I slept on my unmitigated rage, and here's where I've landed.

This pick was very poor value and did not fill a need in my opinion. However, Etienne is a great player and a tremendous talent. He will definitely have an impact, and his presence will make Trevor more comfortable.

I wish we'd gone in a different direction, but I'll wait and see what happens.
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I think some of you need to make a youtube video and show us all how mad with the pick you really are..

Let me offer some advice.. When you hit your head against the wall over and over, do it harder each time. That way it REALLY shows us all how angry you really are.. When you wake up, just upload the video. We'll understand then..
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(04-30-2021, 11:31 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:
(04-30-2021, 11:25 AM)Bullseye Wrote: So now we're seriously comparing taking a RB in the first round to taking a punter in the 3rd?

Who exactly did that? The point was what Ronster said... (can't believe I actually had to post this...)

I stand corrected.

People are now seriously comparing those defending taking a RB in round 1 to those defending taking a punter in round 3.

A subtle but important distinction...I guess.
 

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So because I have a different opinion I’m a homer. Got it! Makes sense, and because I think etienne will improve out offence I must of wanted us to pick a punter in the third round.

Is there anything wrong with wanting to let the players play a game of football before calling it a dumb pick. Isn’t the job of a fan to support the team?
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(04-30-2021, 11:50 AM)Craigukjag Wrote: So because I have a different opinion I’m a homer. Got it! Makes sense, and because I think etienne will improve out offence I must of wanted us to pick a punter in the third round.

Is there anything wrong with wanting to let the players play a game of football before calling it a dumb pick. Isn’t the job of a fan to support the team?

Laughing

Yeah, cheer everything and not question anything, especially when the team has been soooo good for the past 10+ years LOL
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