https://blackandteal.com/2021/05/15/jagu...NDP3zZbaM0


The whole article is interesting, but his opinions on the WR are quite interesting.

Should the Jacksonville Jaguars extend wide receiver DJ Chark?
Later in the show, Lombardo points out that DJ Chark Jr. is a top 15 wide receiver and asks Smith if the Jaguars should give him a contract extension. Smith says Chark is a good receiver but believes they need to wait, as there’s another player in the team that nobody is talking about but is going to be a monster, Collin Johnson.
Smith says he’s been talking to Johnson and supports him. He believes that Lawrence throwing passes to the sophomore wide receiver will be must-see television. Although the Texas product only hauled in 18 passes for 272 yards and two touchdowns in his rookie campaign, he did show flashes of playmaking prowess, so Smith’s endorsement doesn’t just come out of the blue.

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Interesting....

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Man I told y’all about Johnson last year!

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We'll see, is Jimmy still sober? I jest, but really Chark is the WR1 until I see otherwise. There is no harm in too many good WRs, so if Johnson breaks out, that's a great problem to have. I have a good feeling this team is going to be winning a lot of games next year(2022). Heading into year 2 for Trevor and 1 more good draft/solid development from the core group on this team and we should be able to push for the division. We may even be in the hunt late into this year, but that really depends on Trevor. I still think this is a developmental team that wins 2-4 games... BUT, if some of the rookies/year 2 players break out and TLAW is the real deal, could be a much more competitive team.

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Man I told y’all about Johnson last year!

You can't teach his size and length. He looked good in limited time last season.

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If Jimmy Smith is right about Collin Johnson.....man oh man!

Channeling Darth Vader...

"I sense something. A felling I have not felt since...."

That hope thing is strange.

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Lawrence's success at Clemson, and when he looked most unstoppable, was when he had a WR1 with height, like Tee Higgins, he didn't really have that this past year with Amari Rogers at 5'9" as his WR1. Just like Chark didn't produce numbers at LSU due to poor qb play, Johnson had a similar story and also dealt with injuries. Remember Johnson fell because he was in a historically great/deep draft for WR's much like Kamara & Aaron Jones did for RB in the 2017 draft. If Jimmy Smith is saying this, a guy who rarely speaks i'd tend to take it seriously; although Fred mentored Fournette, but i also heard he may have given up on him? Really interested to see how the receiver rotation pans out, there are so many weapons there that I have a feeling that we may not really use a TE outside of short yardage and goalline, why use a package that takes talent off the field?

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Championship Formula:

1) Draft Trevor Lawrence!
2) Play good physical Defense! 
3) Keep 91% of the roster healthy!
4) ???
5) Blank #2
6) CHAMPIONSHIP!!!

Man I told y’all about Johnson last year!

You can't teach his size and length. He looked good in limited time last season.

That’s exactly right. If the Great Jimmy Smith says he’s got potential then the man has potential.

Jimmy’s advice/words are way louder than all of ours combined. Johnson can be a mean red zone target down there inside the 20.

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If Jimmy Smith is right about Collin Johnson.....man oh man!

Channeling Darth Vader...

"I sense something.  A felling I have not felt since...."

That hope thing is strange.

I hope he is right about Johnson. The biggest hurdle he has is the lack of speed. He never ran the 40 at the Combine due to injury and then his Pro Day got cancelled, so his speed is unknown, but he certainly wasn't a "burner" in college. He was more of the possession receiver type. He used his size, physicality and excellent body control to make plays. I think he has a bright future in that role, but I've been a big Chark fan since he was at LSU. He has size, speed and big play making ability. If he can shake off some nagging injuries that have made him miss a few games, I believe he will quickly become Lawrence's favorite target.

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If Jimmy Smith is right about Collin Johnson.....man oh man!

Channeling Darth Vader...

"I sense something.  A felling I have not felt since...."

That hope thing is strange.

I hope he is right about Johnson. The biggest hurdle he has is the lack of speed. He never ran the 40 at the Combine due to injury and then his Pro Day got cancelled, so his speed is unknown, but he certainly wasn't a "burner" in college. He was more of the possession receiver type. He used his size, physicality and excellent body control to make plays. I think he has a bright future in that role, but I've been a big Chark fan since he was at LSU. He has size, speed and big play making ability. If he can shake off some nagging injuries that have made him miss a few games, I believe he will quickly become Lawrence's favorite target.

Oh I agree completely with you on Chark.

As for Johnson, I see him as being faster than Ernest Wilford, much more of a refined receiver than Matt Jones, and less of a headcase than Reggie Williams.  That means while he'll never be mistaken for Randy Moss in terms of being a deep threat, he'll be a far more competent and effective receiver than those three WRs from the JDR era, if UM gives him the chance.  I think he would be a good complement to Chark.  If I could draw a parallel, he would be an oversized Keenan to Chark's Jimmy Smith. With TL's accuracy, Collin Johnson should be a great red zone threat.

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I hope he is right about Johnson. The biggest hurdle he has is the lack of speed. He never ran the 40 at the Combine due to injury and then his Pro Day got cancelled, so his speed is unknown, but he certainly wasn't a "burner" in college. He was more of the possession receiver type. He used his size, physicality and excellent body control to make plays. I think he has a bright future in that role, but I've been a big Chark fan since he was at LSU. He has size, speed and big play making ability. If he can shake off some nagging injuries that have made him miss a few games, I believe he will quickly become Lawrence's favorite target.

Oh I agree completely with you on Chark.

As for Johnson, I see him as being faster than Ernest Wilford, much more of a refined  receiver than Matt Jones, and less of a headcase than Reggie Williams.  That means while he'll never be mistaken for Randy Moss in terms of being a deep threat, he'll be a far more competent and effective receiver than those three WRs from the JDR era, if UM gives him the chance.  I think he would be a good complement to Chark.  If I could draw a parallel, he would be an oversized Keenan to Chark's Jimmy Smith.  With TL's accuracy, Collin Johnson should be a great red zone threat.

If I remember correctly Wilford ran 4.79. Imo Johnson at worst runs 4.65, I think he is around 4.55-4.62.

He can be a decent WR, especially with Lawrence.

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I am a fan, not a cheerleader.

Collin Johnson was also an Academic All Big-12 first team selection in 2019 as a senior. The guy has a really good head on his shoulders to figure out how best to use his skills and best attributes in the NFL game. He'll be successful.

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Oh I agree completely with you on Chark.

As for Johnson, I see him as being faster than Ernest Wilford, much more of a refined  receiver than Matt Jones, and less of a headcase than Reggie Williams.  That means while he'll never be mistaken for Randy Moss in terms of being a deep threat, he'll be a far more competent and effective receiver than those three WRs from the JDR era, if UM gives him the chance.  I think he would be a good complement to Chark.  If I could draw a parallel, he would be an oversized Keenan to Chark's Jimmy Smith.  With TL's accuracy, Collin Johnson should be a great red zone threat.

If I remember correctly Wilford ran 4.79. Imo Johnson at worst runs 4.65, I think he is around 4.55-4.62.

He can be a decent WR, especially with Lawrence.

Yes...I remember the same thing about Wilford's 40 time.  I also agree with your assessment of Collin Johnson's speed.

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Collin Johnson was also an Academic All Big-12 first team selection in 2019 as a senior.  The guy has a really good head on his shoulders to figure out how best to use his skills and best attributes in the NFL game.  He'll be successful.

Listening to him, I knew he was smart, but did not know he was Academic All Big 12.

That's impressive.

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I don’t think Johnson’s speed is an issue at all. He’s got Matt Jones size but is way more agile. He’s also light on his feet for a big WR. I made the comparison of a raw Keyshawn Johnson.

He catches the ball clean, strong hands. He can be a chain mover.

The only thing I think he needs to work on is getting off Jams and acceleration and quickness. Of course everyone can always work on strength.

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I really hope that Jimmy is right!

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Johnson can replace Conley but I think he has better hands. Certainly not as strong, but I would take a clean catch anyday.

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Johnson can replace Conley but I think he has better hands. Certainly not as strong, but I would take a clean catch anyday.

I can't speak to the comparative strength, but I believe Johnson has better hands.

In any event, I hope Jimmy Smith is right about Collin johnson.

The more proficient WRs we have, the more we can focus on improving other areas of the team.

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I hope he is right about Johnson. The biggest hurdle he has is the lack of speed. He never ran the 40 at the Combine due to injury and then his Pro Day got cancelled, so his speed is unknown, but he certainly wasn't a "burner" in college. He was more of the possession receiver type. He used his size, physicality and excellent body control to make plays. I think he has a bright future in that role, but I've been a big Chark fan since he was at LSU. He has size, speed and big play making ability. If he can shake off some nagging injuries that have made him miss a few games, I believe he will quickly become Lawrence's favorite target.

Oh I agree completely with you on Chark.

As for Johnson, I see him as being faster than Ernest Wilford, much more of a refined  receiver than Matt Jones, and less of a headcase than Reggie Williams.  That means while he'll never be mistaken for Randy Moss in terms of being a deep threat, he'll be a far more competent and effective receiver than those three WRs from the JDR era, if UM gives him the chance.  I think he would be a good complement to Chark.  If I could draw a parallel, he would be an oversized Keenan to Chark's Jimmy Smith.  With TL's accuracy, Collin Johnson should be a great red zone threat.

That is a very accurate description. 

Agreed. I just wonder how much of a chance he will get with Chark, Jones and Shenault ahead of him, not to mention Etienne lining up at WR on some plays? I liked what i saw from Johnson last season. There is always a place for a big, redzone target with good hands.

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Oh I agree completely with you on Chark.

As for Johnson, I see him as being faster than Ernest Wilford, much more of a refined  receiver than Matt Jones, and less of a headcase than Reggie Williams.  That means while he'll never be mistaken for Randy Moss in terms of being a deep threat, he'll be a far more competent and effective receiver than those three WRs from the JDR era, if UM gives him the chance.  I think he would be a good complement to Chark.  If I could draw a parallel, he would be an oversized Keenan to Chark's Jimmy Smith.  With TL's accuracy, Collin Johnson should be a great red zone threat.

If I remember correctly Wilford ran 4.79. Imo Johnson at worst runs 4.65, I think he is around 4.55-4.62.

He can be a decent WR, especially with Lawrence.

I was expecting Johnson to run somewhere in the 4.57 to 4.70 range. Remember, Jerry Rice ran a 4.71/40, so speed isn't everything.

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Oh I agree completely with you on Chark.

As for Johnson, I see him as being faster than Ernest Wilford, much more of a refined  receiver than Matt Jones, and less of a headcase than Reggie Williams.  That means while he'll never be mistaken for Randy Moss in terms of being a deep threat, he'll be a far more competent and effective receiver than those three WRs from the JDR era, if UM gives him the chance.  I think he would be a good complement to Chark.  If I could draw a parallel, he would be an oversized Keenan to Chark's Jimmy Smith.  With TL's accuracy, Collin Johnson should be a great red zone threat.

That is a very accurate description. 

Agreed. I just wonder how much of a chance he will get with Chark, Jones and Shenault ahead of him, not to mention Etienne lining up at WR on some plays? I liked what i saw from Johnson last season. There is always a place for a big, redzone target with good hands.

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If I remember correctly Wilford ran 4.79. Imo Johnson at worst runs 4.65, I think he is around 4.55-4.62.

He can be a decent WR, especially with Lawrence.

I was expecting Johnson to run somewhere in the 4.57 to 4.70 range. Remember, Jerry Rice ran a 4.71/40, so speed isn't everything.

I wonder what the depth chart will be going into camp.

Presumably, it will be something like:

Chark
Shenault
Jones
and then Johnson, Etienne, Dorsett and the rest filling in the rear.

But someone raised a point earlier about Etienne vis-a-vis Shenault.  It seems Etienne will be utilized in many of the same ways that Shenault was used last year.  While it's entirely possible Meyer simply wants more playmakers, it does raise the question of why you should have two guys dong essentially the same thing instead of having 5-6 guys to complement each other.  Who knows what UM, Baalke and Lal concluded after reviewing the tape.

As for Rice's speed, I had always heard he ran in the 4.6 range, but your larger point about speed not being everything still stands.  Wilford could be timed with the OL & DL and might finish in the middle of the pack of the DL, but he wound up being better than faster and higher drafted Reggie Williams and Matt Jones.

But I reiterate that I hope Jimmy Smith is right about Collin Johnson and I hope he gets his shot to thrive in this offense if Smith is right.  While I believe in emphasizing skill players early, it is important to bolster the trenches next year.  Even assuming Walker Little starts this year and upgrades one of the T positions, contracts are expiring, players are aging, and some just flat out need to be replaced, and there's depth needed, and this is just on the O-Line.

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If Jimmy Smith is right about Collin Johnson.....man oh man!

Channeling Darth Vader...

"I sense something.  A felling I have not felt since...."

That hope thing is strange.

I hope he is right about Johnson. The biggest hurdle he has is the lack of speed. He never ran the 40 at the Combine due to injury and then his Pro Day got cancelled, so his speed is unknown, but he certainly wasn't a "burner" in college. He was more of the possession receiver type. He used his size, physicality and excellent body control to make plays. I think he has a bright future in that role, but I've been a big Chark fan since he was at LSU. He has size, speed and big play making ability. If he can shake off some nagging injuries that have made him miss a few games, I believe he will quickly become Lawrence's favorite target.

Well here's this to try and get some what of a picture on Johnson's speed. Keep in mind, Dorsett ran 4.33 at the combine. Godwin ran 4.55. Griffin ran 4.38 and Johnson ran 4.4 at his Pro Day.
https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1...62/photo/1

That is a very accurate description. 

Agreed. I just wonder how much of a chance he will get with Chark, Jones and Shenault ahead of him, not to mention Etienne lining up at WR on some plays? I liked what i saw from Johnson last season. There is always a place for a big, redzone target with good hands.

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I was expecting Johnson to run somewhere in the 4.57 to 4.70 range. Remember, Jerry Rice ran a 4.71/40, so speed isn't everything.

I wonder what the depth chart will be going into camp.

Presumably, it will be something like:

Chark
Shenault
Jones
and then Johnson, Etienne, Dorsett and the rest filling in the rear.

But someone raised a point earlier about Etienne vis-a-vis Shenault.  It seems Etienne will be utilized in many of the same ways that Shenault was used last year.  While it's entirely possible Meyer simply wants more playmakers, it does raise the question of why you should have two guys dong essentially the same thing instead of having 5-6 guys to complement each other.  Who knows what UM, Baalke and Lal concluded after reviewing the tape.

As for Rice's speed, I had always heard he ran in the 4.6 range, but your larger point about speed not being everything still stands.  Wilford could be timed with the OL & DL and might finish in the middle of the pack of the DL, but he wound up being better than faster and higher drafted Reggie Williams and Matt Jones.

But I reiterate that I hope Jimmy Smith is right about Collin Johnson and I hope he gets his shot to thrive in this offense if Smith is right.  While I believe in emphasizing skill players early, it is important to bolster the trenches next year.  Even assuming Walker Little starts this year and upgrades one of the T positions, contracts are expiring, players are aging, and some just flat out need to be replaced, and there's depth needed, and this is just on the O-Line.

I think it'll be Chark, Shenault, Jones, Johnson and Agnew rounding out the top 5. Agnew specifically for his return duties. Johnson has the big body type at receiver that we have lacked in the past.

The 6th spot is the one that's really up in the air for me. I'd like to see Camp get it though. Hes got the H/W/S that you take the chance on and try to develop. I think somebody would snag him off the PS eventually.

Chark, Shenault, Jones and Agnew are the locks though. Agnew signed a 3 year, $14.2m and Jones signed a 2 year $12.5m contracts this off season. Would be a definite head scratcher if either were cut before they even played a game for us.

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