Winger I’m with you, I think fans will turn them frowns upside down once ETN takes one 70 yards.

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Winger I’m with you, I think fans will turn them frowns upside down once ETN takes one 70 yards.

Just curious. Has anyone said Etienne is a bad player? I don't think anyone has said anything of that nature.

It's just disagreeing with the pick due to positional value as well as other players probably graded similarly with a bigger need on the team.

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I expect offense to be above average by some margin. I expect defense to be below average, at least early in the season.

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Winger I’m with you, I think fans will turn them frowns upside down once ETN takes one 70 yards.

Just curious. Has anyone said Etienne is a bad player? I don't think anyone has said anything of that nature.

It's just disagreeing with the pick due to positional value as well as other players probably graded similarly with a bigger need on the team.

Why do you hate the Jaguars?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Winger I’m with you, I think fans will turn them frowns upside down once ETN takes one 70 yards.

Just curious. Has anyone said Etienne is a bad player? I don't think anyone has said anything of that nature.

It's just disagreeing with the pick due to positional value as well as other players probably graded similarly with a bigger need on the team.

I haven’t read where anyone has said he was a bad player.

But I have read where we shouldn’t have picked him.

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Just curious. Has anyone said Etienne is a bad player? I don't think anyone has said anything of that nature.

It's just disagreeing with the pick due to positional value as well as other players probably graded similarly with a bigger need on the team.

I haven’t read where anyone has said he was a bad player.

But I have read where we shouldn’t have picked him.

And those are two totally different points.

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I haven’t read where anyone has said he was a bad player.

But I have read where we shouldn’t have picked him.

And those are two totally different points.

Yet both true.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Tebow 3500 passing yards
Tebow 1200 rushing yards
Tebow 800 receiving yards
Tebow 12 forced fumbles
Tebow 46.5 yards punting average
Tebow 118 total points kicking

12 forced fumbles seems a bit high.

True, 11 is more likely. And Rico completely forgot about the 16.5 sacks when Tebow's in at DE.

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12 forced fumbles seems a bit high.

True, 11 is more likely. And Rico completely forgot about the 16.5 sacks when Tebow's in at DE.

@I see him more as an OLB@

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My predictions:

Lawrence has between 3,600-4,300 passing yards, a positive TD:INT ratio, 20+ TD's and shows enough potential for the future that he's unquestionably the guy going forward.

James Robinson leads the team in carries & rushing TD's. Etienne leads the team in yards per carry/yards per touch, big plays, and potentially all-purpose yards if he's back there with Agnew on Kickoff returns.

Marvin Jones leads the team in catches, Chark leads the team in yards.


Defense:

Josh Allen leads the team in sacks, Chaisson leads the team in hurries.

CJ Henderson & Shaq Griffin start on the outside at CB, Campbell will be used at: Nickel, Strong Safety, and outside CB to spell Hend & Griff.

Myles Jack leads the team in tackles.

Rayshawn Jenkins leads the team with 4 interceptions.

Special Teams:

Lambo misses only 2 kicks at home all season and one will be a longgg FG

Agnew runs back 2 kicks for scores and 1 punt for a TD. I'm also guessing he'll have several long great returns to about midfield, and is enough of a threat that teams will start kicking to Etiene or whoever else is put back there with him for kicks.

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Championship Formula:

1) Draft Trevor Lawrence!
2) Play good physical Defense! 
3) Keep 91% of the roster healthy!
4) ???
5) Blank #2
6) CHAMPIONSHIP!!!

I haven’t read where anyone has said he was a bad player.

But I have read where we shouldn’t have picked him.

And those are two totally different points.

Why did you ask me that question?

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My predictions:

Lawrence has between 3,600-4,300 passing yards, a positive TD:INT ratio, 20+ TD's and shows enough potential for the future that he's unquestionably the guy going forward.

James Robinson leads the team in carries & rushing TD's. Etienne leads the team in yards per carry/yards per touch, big plays, and potentially all-purpose yards if he's back there with Agnew on Kickoff returns.

Marvin Jones leads the team in catches, Chark leads the team in yards.


Defense:

Josh Allen leads the team in sacks, Chaisson leads the team in hurries.

CJ Henderson & Shaq Griffin start on the outside at CB, Campbell will be used at: Nickel, Strong Safety, and outside CB to spell Hend & Griff.

Myles Jack leads the team in tackles.

Rayshawn Jenkins leads the team with 4 interceptions.

Special Teams:

Lambo misses only 2 kicks at home all season and one will be a longgg FG

Agnew runs back 2 kicks for scores and 1 punt for a TD. I'm also guessing he'll have several long great returns to about midfield, and is enough of a threat that teams will start kicking to Etiene or whoever else is put back there with him for kicks.

If this happens we should unquestionably be a playoff team.

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My predictions:

Lawrence has between 3,600-4,300 passing yards, a positive TD:INT ratio, 20+ TD's and shows enough potential for the future that he's unquestionably the guy going forward.

James Robinson leads the team in carries & rushing TD's. Etienne leads the team in yards per carry/yards per touch, big plays, and potentially all-purpose yards if he's back there with Agnew on Kickoff returns.

Marvin Jones leads the team in catches, Chark leads the team in yards.


Defense:

Josh Allen leads the team in sacks, Chaisson leads the team in hurries.

CJ Henderson & Shaq Griffin start on the outside at CB, Campbell will be used at: Nickel, Strong Safety, and outside CB to spell Hend & Griff.

Myles Jack leads the team in tackles.

Rayshawn Jenkins leads the team with 4 interceptions.

Special Teams:

Lambo misses only 2 kicks at home all season and one will be a longgg FG

Agnew runs back 2 kicks for scores and 1 punt for a TD. I'm also guessing he'll have several long great returns to about midfield, and is enough of a threat that teams will start kicking to Etiene or whoever else is put back there with him for kicks.

If this happens we should unquestionably be a playoff team.

Huh?

All that could happen and the team goes 5-12.....

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And those are two totally different points.

Why did you ask me that question?

Because a lot of people assume that because some of us didn't like the selection that we think Etienne is a bad player. That's not the case.

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If this happens we should unquestionably be a playoff team.

Huh?

All that could happen and the team goes 5-12.....

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Why did you ask me that question?

Because a lot of people assume that because some of us didn't like the selection that we think Etienne is a bad player. That's not the case.

I haven't seen anyone assume he's a bad player but they think he was a bad pick.  I think he will be a better pick than a lot of the guys that some wanted.  We will see, you wanted offense and i.think he will be the best player on offense out of the guys that was available other than Elijah Moore.  Really interested to see who turns out to be the better player between the 2

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