So if you think the past is prologue, meaning that because he's had scandals in the past, he will have scandals in the future, then it would logically follow, that if, again, past is prologue, he's had championships in the past so he will have championships in the future.  

The detractors cherry-pick the problems he's had in the past, and say, "this is Urban Meyer."  The supporters cherry-pick the successes he's had in the past and say, "this is Urban Meyer."

Personally, I am a naturally optimistic person, at least I try to be.  So I am optimistic.

He's still who he is, but he's not coaching the little leagues anymore. I'd say the chances of him having more punishments for breaking rules is much more likely than him winning any championships. The most surprising thing would be him still being the coach here in five years.

If he's here only five years but manages to get us to a couple of conference championships or, be still my foolish heart, a SB, I'll be happy with that.

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Whatever helps you keep pissin your panties over Urbz..

And in a few years when he's done it again you'll be up in arms about it.

Carnac The Great has spoken..

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See this what I don't understand.. The dude had legitimate health concerns and some of these 'people' completely overlook that fact as if it never existed..

The only explanation is the hate from being jilted must still be really strong.

I feel like you have a reading comprehension problem.

No one that thinks he's a scumbag is saying that because they are fans of UF or OSU.

He's a scumbag because he is one.

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We just have to recognize that ethics don't mean much to some folks, as long as Urban wins all will be well, right up until he [BLEEP] over the franchise on his way out the door.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

We just have to recognize that ethics don't mean much to some folks, as long as Urban wins all will be well, right up until he [BLEEP] over the franchise on his way out the door.

You need new material..

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We just have to recognize that ethics don't mean much to some folks, as long as Urban wins all will be well, right up until he [BLEEP] over the franchise on his way out the door.

Ummm Yes. That would be great.

If it ends with a Super Bowl victory, I couldn't care less what happens as long as Trevor stays with the Jags.

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We just have to recognize that ethics don't mean much to some folks, as long as Urban wins all will be well, right up until he [BLEEP] over the franchise on his way out the door.

You need new material..

Why? This thread is about Urban Meyer breaking the rules again.

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We just have to recognize that ethics don't mean much to some folks, as long as Urban wins all will be well, right up until he [BLEEP] over the franchise on his way out the door.

Ummm Yes. That would be great.

If it ends with a Super Bowl victory, I couldn't care less what happens as long as Trevor stays with the Jags.

For the Jags' sake I hope he wins, but I have low expectations in that regard. For the Jags' sake I hope he doesn't cripple the franchise for another decade, but I have low expectations there as well. I'm getting too old to do 10 year rebuilds anymore, I would like a winner now before I pass on, but damn this team makes it hard.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

You need new material..

Why? This thread is about Urban Meyer breaking the rules again.

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Ummm Yes. That would be great.

If it ends with a Super Bowl victory, I couldn't care less what happens as long as Trevor stays with the Jags.

For the Jags' sake I hope he wins, but I have low expectations in that regard. For the Jags' sake I hope he doesn't cripple the franchise for another decade, but I have low expectations there as well. I'm getting too old to do 10 year rebuilds anymore, I would like a winner now before I pass on, but damn this team makes it hard.

Two words..

Broken record

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Why? This thread is about Urban Meyer breaking the rules again.

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For the Jags' sake I hope he wins, but I have low expectations in that regard. For the Jags' sake I hope he doesn't cripple the franchise for another decade, but I have low expectations there as well. I'm getting too old to do 10 year rebuilds anymore, I would like a winner now before I pass on, but damn this team makes it hard.

Two words..

Broken record

And all this time I thought it was dead horse.  I might have settled for self-righteous indignation.  That might be 3 words though.

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I have my reasons.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

The only explanation is the hate from being jilted must still be really strong.

I feel like you have a reading comprehension problem.

No one that thinks he's a scumbag is saying that because they are fans of UF or OSU.

He's a scumbag because he is one.

No reading comprehension problem but I can read between the lines easily enough. Your rhetoric about the guy goes way beyond concern about some guilt by association connections to a near obsession. Ergo, you have some personal issue with him.

Methinks you doth protest to much so most likely you're an OSU or Gator fan. But if not then probably a fan of some team he dominated regularly. Whatever.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you. 
Check out the Jag's Forum Alternative: Duval Football Fans.

I have my reasons.

I'm sure a DNA test was involved somewhere..

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I have my reasons.

I'm sure a DNA test was involved somewhere..

No, my daughter was a victim of domestic violence and I have have nothing whatsoever for those like Meyer that enable, overlook, or cover it up.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I'm sure a DNA test was involved somewhere..

No, my daughter was a victim of domestic violence and I have have nothing whatsoever for those like Meyer that enable, overlook, or cover it up.

Maybe you should try something more productive in your community to bring awareness instead of trolling on a message board.

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No, my daughter was a victim of domestic violence and I have have nothing whatsoever for those like Meyer that enable, overlook, or cover it up.

Maybe you should try something more productive in your community to bring awareness instead of trolling on a message board.

He's bringing awareness to this board about Urban being a terrible person.

Beyond his personality problems.. I don't think he's going to win anything. I think he will hold back Trevor Lawrence. I think he's purely a college coach with zero ability to adapt to anything other than what he thinks is correct. And he thinks his college philosophy can work in the NFL.. and it cant.

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No, my daughter was a victim of domestic violence and I have have nothing whatsoever for those like Meyer that enable, overlook, or cover it up.

Maybe you should try something more productive in your community to bring awareness instead of trolling on a message board.

Lol, I do this for catharsis. I'm sorry you think telling you the truth is "trolling."

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Maybe you should try something more productive in your community to bring awareness instead of trolling on a message board.

He's bringing awareness to this board about Urban being a terrible person.

Beyond his personality problems.. I don't think he's going to win anything. I think he will hold back Trevor Lawrence. I think he's purely a college coach with zero ability to adapt to anything other than what he thinks is correct. And he thinks his college philosophy can work in the NFL.. and it cant.

The hell he is.. All he's doing is bringing awareness that he's a mega-mouth jackass.

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He's bringing awareness to this board about Urban being a terrible person.

Beyond his personality problems.. I don't think he's going to win anything. I think he will hold back Trevor Lawrence. I think he's purely a college coach with zero ability to adapt to anything other than what he thinks is correct. And he thinks his college philosophy can work in the NFL.. and it cant.

The hell he is.. All he's doing is bringing awareness that he's a mega-mouth jackass.

You poor fellow, perhaps you are the one who needs to take a break from the board. It seems you can't handle civil conversation any more.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

The hell he is.. All he's doing is bringing awareness that he's a mega-mouth jackass.

You poor fellow, perhaps you are the one who needs to take a break from the board. It seems you can't handle civil conversation any more.

When you start bringing civility, I'll be civil.

But no, instead, you'll go about your business, whining and crying like a little [BLEEP] because of the HC or Tebow or god knows what..

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You poor fellow, perhaps you are the one who needs to take a break from the board. It seems you can't handle civil conversation any more.

When you start bringing civility, I'll be civil.

But no, instead, you'll go about your business, whining and crying like a little [BLEEP] because of the HC or Tebow or god knows what..

I feel for you man, really. It's truly awful that people talk about the subject matter in the...gasp...threads that the subject matter is about. 

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato