When you start bringing civility, I'll be civil.

But no, instead, you'll go about your business, whining and crying like a little [BLEEP] because of the HC or Tebow or god knows what..

I feel for you man, really. It's truly awful that people talk about the subject matter in the...gasp...threads that the subject matter is about. 

From one poster to another, you're a small step away from standing on a street corner holding a sign that says "The end is near"..  Not a good look, grab some sanity..

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I feel for you man, really. It's truly awful that people talk about the subject matter in the...gasp...threads that the subject matter is about. 

From one poster to another, you're a small step away from standing on a street corner holding a sign that says "The end is near"..  Not a good look, grab some sanity..

Fair enough, 20 more days until this barren wasteland gets refreshed.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I too think Urbs is a human piece of excrement.

That said, he's the coach. Hope we win!

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I too think Urbs is a human piece of excrement.

That said, he's the coach. Hope we win!

pretty much this. he's a snake oil salesman, but he's OUR snake oil salesman.

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I'm neither. I was actually a little against the signing initially but like you willing to see how it plays out. Just find it funny how people are holier-than-thou when it comes to the guy because they're mad he abandoned their program.

... I'm not a fan of either UF or Ohio State ..

I AM a fan of the Jacksonville Jaguars... and the scumbag is now OUR scumbag. And he IS a scumbag - that's who he is and who he's always been. To dispute that is quite frankly laughable. And he's been ignoring the rules his entire life, of course it's going to continue here.

I don't understand the dismissal of his being a complete piece of garbage - we don't dismiss his being a good coach.

Oh my god man...

who cares?

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In no way do I care about this fin, at all. When we lose something above a 7th round draft pick, sure.

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The draft aide, I'd rather he make mistakes nTo the extent $100,000 and $200,00 fins can be considered "no big deal," I think this qualifies.

Yes, he should adhere to the CBA, since it is one of the governing documents of the league.

But he's brand new to the NFL game early in his NFL: career, he's trying to establish a competitive environment, and he's far from the only NFL coach dinged for this. It happens every year.

It's not as if he were a long time NFL guy who has already worn out his welcome, driven away several talented players, etc.

Player procurement aside, I'd rather he make "minor" mistakes now than during the season.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

I too think Urbs is a human piece of excrement.

That said, he's the coach. Hope we win!

I too think Urbs is a human piece of excrement.

That said, he's the coach. Hope we win!

pretty much this. he's a snake oil salesman, but he's OUR snake oil salesman.

Please refresh my memory.

What did he do to inherit such a reputation?

I know he had more than his share of players who got in trouble off the field, including Aaron freaking Hernandez.

But I remember reading something a few months back where he got something of a revelation from talking to Belichick. Belichick advised him to write down all of the characteristics he wanted in a player. UM supposedly stated he just went after the fastest guys before then.

Looking at this year's draft, he placed an emphasis n guys he seemed to know, and he seemed to speak highly of everyone's character.

I also seem to recall there was some instance where he stuck up for an assistant who got in some hot water over a domestic dispute or something.

Were there other infractions I have forgotten? Did UM himself ever get arrested?

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

I too think Urbs is a human piece of excrement.

That said, he's the coach. Hope we win!

pretty much this. he's a snake oil salesman, but he's OUR snake oil salesman.

Please refresh my memory.

What did he do to inherit such a reputation?

I know he had more than his share of players who got in trouble off the field, including Aaron freaking Hernandez.

But I remember reading something a few months back where he got something of a revelation from talking to Belichick.  Belichick advised him to write down all of the characteristics he wanted in a player.  UM supposedly stated he just went after the fastest guys before then.

Looking at this year's draft, he placed an emphasis n guys he seemed to know, and he seemed to speak highly of everyone's character.

I also seem to recall  there was some instance where he stuck up for an assistant who got in some hot water over a domestic dispute or something.

Were there other infractions I have forgotten?  Did UM himself ever get arrested?

Don't you realize that this piece of excrement only targeted players in the draft with super secret bad character issues only known to him?

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I too think Urbs is a human piece of excrement.

That said, he's the coach. Hope we win!

pretty much this. he's a snake oil salesman, but he's OUR snake oil salesman.

Please refresh my memory.

What did he do to inherit such a reputation?

I know he had more than his share of players who got in trouble off the field, including Aaron freaking Hernandez.

But I remember reading something a few months back where he got something of a revelation from talking to Belichick.  Belichick advised him to write down all of the characteristics he wanted in a player.  UM supposedly stated he just went after the fastest guys before then.

Looking at this year's draft, he placed an emphasis n guys he seemed to know, and he seemed to speak highly of everyone's character.

I also seem to recall  there was some instance where he stuck up for an assistant who got in some hot water over a domestic dispute or something.

Were there other infractions I have forgotten?  Did UM himself ever get arrested?

His association with skeezy people leads to the skeeze sticking to himself. I wouldn't call failure to disclose pending legal charges for DV "sticking up for an assistant". And when the initial luster of the job wears off, he runs to the hills before the ugliness can be pinned on him.

He may be fantastic at Xs and Os. He's either a miserable judge of character, or willing to dismiss that for the sake of winning. That's where he and I certainly differ. If he is so changed, his hire of Chris Doyle is quite a contradiction.

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Please refresh my memory.

What did he do to inherit such a reputation?

I know he had more than his share of players who got in trouble off the field, including Aaron freaking Hernandez.

But I remember reading something a few months back where he got something of a revelation from talking to Belichick.  Belichick advised him to write down all of the characteristics he wanted in a player.  UM supposedly stated he just went after the fastest guys before then.

Looking at this year's draft, he placed an emphasis n guys he seemed to know, and he seemed to speak highly of everyone's character.

I also seem to recall  there was some instance where he stuck up for an assistant who got in some hot water over a domestic dispute or something.

Were there other infractions I have forgotten?  Did UM himself ever get arrested?

His association with skeezy people leads to the skeeze sticking to himself. I wouldn't call failure to disclose pending legal charges for DV "sticking up for an assistant". And when the initial luster of the job wears off, he runs to the hills before the ugliness can be pinned on him.

He may be fantastic at Xs and Os. He's either a miserable judge of character, or willing to dismiss that for the sake of winning. That's where he and I certainly differ. If he is so changed, his hire of Chris Doyle is quite a contradiction.

Look, you can't judge a man on his actions that happened weeks ago, he's a changed man! So what if it's the exact same behaviors he exhibited in both his previous stops, to think that he isn't a changed man now that he's in the NFL is just plain unreasonable.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/3181...on-lawsuit

Wonder why they are calling Baalke too...?

"Why'd you fire him"

"Urban told me to... I mean he made me hire the guy in the first place...I don't know what you want from me... I'm a yes man that loves ACL injuries..."

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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/3181...on-lawsuit

Wonder why they are calling Baalke too...?

He technically hired the guy they are investigating. (Doyle)

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More trouble from scumbags. Shocking.

Urbs turned a blind eye to killers in Gainesville for wins. He covered up sexual assault issues and took them to Ohio. He quit with "heart issues" when he ran out of talent in Hogtown.

You may be willing to win at all costs, I'm not. He's a total piece of [BLEEP].

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No more distractions! Except for giving your racist buddy a shot!

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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/3181...on-lawsuit

Wonder why they are calling Baalke too...?

"Why'd you fire him"

"Urban told me to... I mean he made me hire the guy in the first place...I don't know what you want from me... I'm a yes man that loves ACL injuries..."

Doyle resigned. Urbz had no issue with bringing a guy facing allegations from 50 separate former players as the Director of the S&C team. And like Z. Smith, saw no reason why bringing a guy in with recent checkered past might be a bad idea.

Baalke didn't fire him, he probably just sat their and nodded his head when Urbz told him he was our man. If both were involved in the hiring process, though, they may have statements from Doyle about his past, financial details, etc that could be used in the civil action.

....remember when it was the players getting into legal trouble during the dead zone? Ah, the good ol' days. At least then, it was just something dumb like throwing a sandwich into a pond, calling other QBs trash, things like that.

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