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The New Superman is Gay!

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(10-12-2021, 05:36 PM)Jags Wrote: Perhaps they are so big on making kids “gay” or whatever in order to produce or shall I say “reproduce” future liberal voting lemmings?  Sounds crazy, but when I’m told by a family member that their job was to think “10 steps ahead” makes sense that their employer would as well.  I mean, what else do they have to run on?

I know at least two gay couples that are hard core conservative Trumpers so I dunno about that.
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(10-12-2021, 05:40 PM)MarleyJag Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 05:36 PM)Jags Wrote: Perhaps they are so big on making kids “gay” or whatever in order to produce or shall I say “reproduce” future liberal voting lemmings?  Sounds crazy, but when I’m told by a family member that their job was to think “10 steps ahead” makes sense that their employer would as well.  I mean, what else do they have to run on?

I know at least two gay couples that are hard core conservative Trumpers so I dunno about that.

Of course it’s not across the board. But let’s face it, they do tend to vote one way.  So it’s not exactly that absurd of an idea. Especially from the looney left.
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#23

Liberal heads probably explode when they look at old comics and old cartoons.  They not only portray men as masculine and women as feminine, they also stereotyped many of their characters.  Anyone remember Speedy Gonzales and his sidekick "Slowpoke Rodriguez"?

Changing the story or the characters does nothing but indoctrinate kids into thinking that the gay lifestyle is "normal".  It's not.  There are males and females for a reason.

I have no problem with people being gay if that's how they choose to live their life.  However, in the natural order of business heterosexuality is what makes everything continue whether it's human population or animal population.  Imagine if we had a herd of gay cows.  They would never reproduce and we would run out of beef.


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(10-12-2021, 06:13 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Liberal heads probably explode when they look at old comics and old cartoons.  They not only portray men as masculine and women as feminine, they also stereotyped many of their characters.  Anyone remember Speedy Gonzales and his sidekick "Slowpoke Rodriguez"?

Changing the story or the characters does nothing but indoctrinate kids into thinking that the gay lifestyle is "normal".  It's not.  There are males and females for a reason.

I have no problem with people being gay if that's how they choose to live their life.  However, in the natural order of business heterosexuality is what makes everything continue whether it's human population or animal population.  Imagine if we had a herd of gay cows.  They would never reproduce and we would run out of beef.

We’d also have gay milk.  Like gayer than almond milk or  the soy [BLEEP].  I remember when milk did the body good.  Now it creates gastrointestinal malfunctions. It’s the new ADHD I guess.  I also remember when you can say things were “gay”.  Sad world y’all live in.  If something is “gay” I’ll say it.
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(10-12-2021, 06:13 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Liberal heads probably explode when they look at old comics and old cartoons.  They not only portray men as masculine and women as feminine, they also stereotyped many of their characters.  Anyone remember Speedy Gonzales and his sidekick "Slowpoke Rodriguez"?

Changing the story or the characters does nothing but indoctrinate kids into thinking that the gay lifestyle is "normal".  It's not.  There are males and females for a reason.

I have no problem with people being gay if that's how they choose to live their life.  However, in the natural order of business heterosexuality is what makes everything continue whether it's human population or animal population.  Imagine if we had a herd of gay cows.  They would never reproduce and we would run out of beef.

Sounds like you associate heterosexuality with "normal" because of the ability to reproduce naturally. What about my sister who is heterosexual but couldn't reproduce without IVF? Maybe she's not normal under that definition. I'd disagree though.

There's nothing wrong with teaching kids that gay couples are "ok". It might even help those kids avoid becoming homophobic later in life.
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(10-12-2021, 06:50 PM)MarleyJag Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 06:13 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Liberal heads probably explode when they look at old comics and old cartoons.  They not only portray men as masculine and women as feminine, they also stereotyped many of their characters.  Anyone remember Speedy Gonzales and his sidekick "Slowpoke Rodriguez"?

Changing the story or the characters does nothing but indoctrinate kids into thinking that the gay lifestyle is "normal".  It's not.  There are males and females for a reason.

I have no problem with people being gay if that's how they choose to live their life.  However, in the natural order of business heterosexuality is what makes everything continue whether it's human population or animal population.  Imagine if we had a herd of gay cows.  They would never reproduce and we would run out of beef.

Sounds like you associate heterosexuality with "normal" because of the ability to reproduce naturally. What about my sister who is heterosexual but couldn't reproduce without IVF? Maybe she's not normal under that definition. I'd disagree though.

There's nothing wrong with teaching kids that gay couples are "ok". It might even help those kids avoid becoming homophobic later in life.

Your sister is normal bro.  It’s just the weirdos that think they can by dick sneezing into a butt that they can create a baby that are not normal. Or breast feed them afterwards.
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(10-12-2021, 06:55 PM)Jags Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 06:50 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: Sounds like you associate heterosexuality with "normal" because of the ability to reproduce naturally. What about my sister who is heterosexual but couldn't reproduce without IVF? Maybe she's not normal under that definition. I'd disagree though.

There's nothing wrong with teaching kids that gay couples are "ok". It might even help those kids avoid becoming homophobic later in life.

Your sister is normal bro.  It’s just the weirdos that think they can by dick sneezing into a butt that they can create a baby that are not normal. Or breast feed them afterwards.

Do you really think anyone thinks that way? I mean, there's some nuance but gay people that I know generally understand biology. Gay couples with kids included.
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(10-12-2021, 07:02 PM)MarleyJag Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 06:55 PM)Jags Wrote: Your sister is normal bro.  It’s just the weirdos that think they can by dick sneezing into a butt that they can create a baby that are not normal. Or breast feed them afterwards.

Do you really think anyone thinks that way? I mean, there's some nuance but gay people that I know generally understand biology. Gay couples with kids included.

I’ve known gay dudes with kids.  I’ve also wondered how messed up their ex wives were to not only turn their men gay but for both of the guys to have custody of their own kids.  And to answer your question, remember that dude girl guy that couldn’t produce milk from his MANmary  glands?

Edit:  when I question the gay dudes having custody, it’s not them I’m questioning.  They both were kind nice and likable people.  I mean that the state chose not to give the mom custody.
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#29

(10-12-2021, 06:50 PM)MarleyJag Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 06:13 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Liberal heads probably explode when they look at old comics and old cartoons.  They not only portray men as masculine and women as feminine, they also stereotyped many of their characters.  Anyone remember Speedy Gonzales and his sidekick "Slowpoke Rodriguez"?

Changing the story or the characters does nothing but indoctrinate kids into thinking that the gay lifestyle is "normal".  It's not.  There are males and females for a reason.

I have no problem with people being gay if that's how they choose to live their life.  However, in the natural order of business heterosexuality is what makes everything continue whether it's human population or animal population.  Imagine if we had a herd of gay cows.  They would never reproduce and we would run out of beef.

Sounds like you associate heterosexuality with "normal" because of the ability to reproduce naturally. What about my sister who is heterosexual but couldn't reproduce without IVF? Maybe she's not normal under that definition. I'd disagree though.

There's nothing wrong with teaching kids that gay couples are "ok". It might even help those kids avoid becoming homophobic later in life.

Well I do associate heterosexuality with "normal".  After all, in the scheme of things sex exists to reproduce.  The "pleasure" aspect of it is purely a human "taught" thing.  In the case of a couple that can't reproduce without IVF, that's a problem that science did right (in my opinion) so that couples can still have children.

Much of my opinion is formed by watching/raising animals my whole life, especially in my younger years as well as now in my "seasoned" years.  Humans are just another animal.  When a female animal "comes in season" the instinct of the male animal is to mate.  This is solely to reproduce and is dictated by nature.  That is the sole reason for intercourse.  Humans got pleasure from it and took it to another level.

I somewhat agree that teaching kids that "gay couples are ok", but at what age?  Grade school when they haven't even figured out their own bodies?  Middle/high school when hormones start raging?  When is it right to expose children to this stuff and what is the appropriate way?  Is changing an iconic comic book the way just to push a point or a narrative?

Again, I don't care if someone chooses to live a gay lifestyle.  If they and their partner are happy then I am happy for them.  I refuse to have the gay lifestyle pushed on children as "normal" because it's not.


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Ok vs accepted.  I accept some people are gay.  I don’t look at them different.  I don’t treat them differently.  Do I think it’s “ok”?  Well that’s a topic for which we cant discuss.  And in fact, I’m wrong myself for not thinking it’s “ok”.

I think too many people, men included, have their panties in a bunch about it.  But to change a comic book or to plaster it on TV or force it upon others I feel is a bit much. If you’re gay, fantastic!  If you’re trans, whatever.  But where do we stop with forcing other lifestyles upon others or even onto the vast majority?  I understand there are minorities of all sorts. They don’t want to be mistreated.  They have been mistreated. But to Ram it down society’s throughly is a bit ridiculous.  When the majority of people (black white Aisan straight…) are being treated or taught to like they are the minority, then there is something definitely wrong.
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(10-12-2021, 07:12 PM)Jags Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 07:02 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: Do you really think anyone thinks that way? I mean, there's some nuance but gay people that I know generally understand biology. Gay couples with kids included.

I’ve known gay dudes with kids.  I’ve also wondered how messed up their ex wives were to not only turn their men gay but for both of the guys to have custody of their own kids.  And to answer your question, remember that dude girl guy that couldn’t produce milk from his MANmary  glands?

Edit:  when I question the gay dudes having custody, it’s not them I’m questioning.  They both were kind nice and likable people.  I mean that the state chose not to give the mom custody.

I'm not gay but from what I understand, no one "turns" a person gay. Think about it. Who turned you straight?

The gay people that I know who have kids either adopted, had a friend of the opposite sex "assist" or got IVF like my sis.

I don't know about the person you're referring to in terms of the milk production. Sounds like they may have been in a transition state and got impatient. Think about it, women by birth can't produce milk either unless their hormones are in sync to do so.

(10-12-2021, 07:23 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 06:50 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: Sounds like you associate heterosexuality with "normal" because of the ability to reproduce naturally. What about my sister who is heterosexual but couldn't reproduce without IVF? Maybe she's not normal under that definition. I'd disagree though.

There's nothing wrong with teaching kids that gay couples are "ok". It might even help those kids avoid becoming homophobic later in life.

Well I do associate heterosexuality with "normal".  After all, in the scheme of things sex exists to reproduce.  The "pleasure" aspect of it is purely a human "taught" thing.  In the case of a couple that can't reproduce without IVF, that's a problem that science did right (in my opinion) so that couples can still have children.

Much of my opinion is formed by watching/raising animals my whole life, especially in my younger years as well as now in my "seasoned" years.  Humans are just another animal.  When a female animal "comes in season" the instinct of the male animal is to mate.  This is solely to reproduce and is dictated by nature.  That is the sole reason for intercourse.  Humans got pleasure from it and took it to another level.

I somewhat agree that teaching kids that "gay couples are ok", but at what age?  Grade school when they haven't even figured out their own bodies?  Middle/high school when hormones start raging?  When is it right to expose children to this stuff and what is the appropriate way?  Is changing an iconic comic book the way just to push a point or a narrative?

Again, I don't care if someone chooses to live a gay lifestyle.  If they and their partner are happy then I am happy for them.  I refuse to have the gay lifestyle pushed on children as "normal" because it's not.

We don't disagree on that many points but I will tell you "sex" does exist mainly for pleasure. Biology exists for reproduction. It's a fine point but the nuances are important.
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(10-12-2021, 07:36 PM)MarleyJag Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 07:12 PM)Jags Wrote: I’ve known gay dudes with kids.  I’ve also wondered how messed up their ex wives were to not only turn their men gay but for both of the guys to have custody of their own kids.  And to answer your question, remember that dude girl guy that couldn’t produce milk from his MANmary  glands?

Edit:  when I question the gay dudes having custody, it’s not them I’m questioning.  They both were kind nice and likable people.  I mean that the state chose not to give the mom custody.

I'm not gay but from what I understand, no one "turns" a person gay. Think about it. Who turned you straight?

The gay people that I know who have kids either adopted, had a friend of the opposite sex "assist" or got IVF like my sis.

I don't know about the person you're referring to in terms of the milk production. Sounds like they may have been in a transition state and got impatient. Think about it, women by birth can't produce milk either unless their hormones are in sync to do so.

The couple I was referring to was a gay couple, both of which had kids from a previous marriage to women. They both decided they liked dudes I guess and both had custody of the kids they had in their previous marriage.  

The man not producing milk, that was a topic on these forums a few months back. 

I wouldn’t say anything turned me straight. Other than the female body.  And that’s what I was predisposed to like.  I’ll take two please!
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(10-12-2021, 07:42 PM)Jags Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 07:36 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: I'm not gay but from what I understand, no one "turns" a person gay. Think about it. Who turned you straight?

The gay people that I know who have kids either adopted, had a friend of the opposite sex "assist" or got IVF like my sis.

I don't know about the person you're referring to in terms of the milk production. Sounds like they may have been in a transition state and got impatient. Think about it, women by birth can't produce milk either unless their hormones are in sync to do so.

The couple I was referring to was a gay couple, both of which had kids from a previous marriage to women. They both decided they liked dudes I guess and both had custody of the kids they had in their previous marriage.  

The man not producing milk, that was a topic on these forums a few months back. 

I wouldn’t say anything turned me straight. Other than the female body.  And that’s what I was predisposed to like.  I’ll take two please!

I echo your view of women but I'm not going to assume everyone feels or even should feel the same way. For me it's natural to be attracted to the opposite sex. I didn't have to be turned. Similarly, I assume people who are attracted to the same sex weren't brainwashed or whatever. They may have been under social pressure to behave a certain way and then figured it out, like your friend. More power to them.
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(10-12-2021, 07:48 PM)MarleyJag Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 07:42 PM)Jags Wrote: The couple I was referring to was a gay couple, both of which had kids from a previous marriage to women. They both decided they liked dudes I guess and both had custody of the kids they had in their previous marriage.  

The man not producing milk, that was a topic on these forums a few months back. 

I wouldn’t say anything turned me straight. Other than the female body.  And that’s what I was predisposed to like.  I’ll take two please!

I echo your view of women but I'm not going to assume everyone feels or even should feel the same way. For me it's natural to be attracted to the opposite sex. I didn't have to be turned. Similarly, I assume people who are attracted to the same sex weren't brainwashed or whatever. They may have been under social pressure to behave a certain way and then figured it out, like your friend. More power to them.

I’m not here to argue if it’s “ok” to be gay or not.  Some people are, most aren’t.  I suppose my argument is why are we as a society changing classic comics to cater to gay people?  Are gay people unable to enjoy it how it was?  Do gay people only enjoy it if there is homosexual things happening?  That sounds absurd!  You either like it or not.  Granted, I enjoy rock n roll music. But I like some rap. As a white man, am I not able to enjoy rap on its own?  Should I be needing them to insert white stuff into their music? No! Otherwise, it wouldn’t be authentic. Do your thing.  I either like it or don’t.  Why are we shoving this lifestyle down EVERYONES throats?  That’s my gripe.
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(10-12-2021, 06:50 PM)MarleyJag Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 06:13 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Liberal heads probably explode when they look at old comics and old cartoons.  They not only portray men as masculine and women as feminine, they also stereotyped many of their characters.  Anyone remember Speedy Gonzales and his sidekick "Slowpoke Rodriguez"?

Changing the story or the characters does nothing but indoctrinate kids into thinking that the gay lifestyle is "normal".  It's not.  There are males and females for a reason.

I have no problem with people being gay if that's how they choose to live their life.  However, in the natural order of business heterosexuality is what makes everything continue whether it's human population or animal population.  Imagine if we had a herd of gay cows.  They would never reproduce and we would run out of beef.

Sounds like you associate heterosexuality with "normal" because of the ability to reproduce naturally. What about my sister who is heterosexual but couldn't reproduce without IVF? Maybe she's not normal under that definition. I'd disagree though.

There's nothing wrong with teaching kids that gay couples are "ok". It might even help those kids avoid becoming homophobic later in life.

It's not o.k. in my family and that kind of stuff should not be taught in schools. It's up to the parents to teach children what is right and what is wrong.
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(10-12-2021, 07:59 PM)Jags Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 07:48 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: I echo your view of women but I'm not going to assume everyone feels or even should feel the same way. For me it's natural to be attracted to the opposite sex. I didn't have to be turned. Similarly, I assume people who are attracted to the same sex weren't brainwashed or whatever. They may have been under social pressure to behave a certain way and then figured it out, like your friend. More power to them.

I’m not here to argue if it’s “ok” to be gay or not.  Some people are, most aren’t.  I suppose my argument is why are we as a society changing classic comics to cater to gay people?  Are gay people unable to enjoy it how it was?  Do gay people only enjoy it if there is homosexual things happening?  That sounds absurd!  You either like it or not.  Granted, I enjoy rock n roll music. But I like some rap. As a white man, am I not able to enjoy rap on its own?  Should I be needing them to insert white stuff into their music? No! Otherwise, it wouldn’t be authentic. Do your thing.  I either like it or don’t.  Why are we shoving this lifestyle down EVERYONES throats?  That’s my gripe.

I dunno, that's why I'm mostly meh about it. But I get it. Picture a world where every superhero was gay. If you were straight, wouldn't it seem awesome if one of your superheroes was written as straight? Of course it would. Now flip the mirror over.

(10-12-2021, 08:10 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 06:50 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: Sounds like you associate heterosexuality with "normal" because of the ability to reproduce naturally. What about my sister who is heterosexual but couldn't reproduce without IVF? Maybe she's not normal under that definition. I'd disagree though.

There's nothing wrong with teaching kids that gay couples are "ok". It might even help those kids avoid becoming homophobic later in life.

It's not o.k. in my family and that kind of stuff should not be taught in schools. It's up to the parents to teach children what is right and what is wrong.

Ask yourself why you're threatened by it. You're probably going to say you're not. But if you're not, why are you worried about it? Why are you so convinced it's "wrong".
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(10-12-2021, 07:59 PM)Jags Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 07:48 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: I echo your view of women but I'm not going to assume everyone feels or even should feel the same way. For me it's natural to be attracted to the opposite sex. I didn't have to be turned. Similarly, I assume people who are attracted to the same sex weren't brainwashed or whatever. They may have been under social pressure to behave a certain way and then figured it out, like your friend. More power to them.

I’m not here to argue if it’s “ok” to be gay or not.  Some people are, most aren’t.  I suppose my argument is why are we as a society changing classic comics to cater to gay people?  Are gay people unable to enjoy it how it was?  Do gay people only enjoy it if there is homosexual things happening?  That sounds absurd!  You either like it or not.  Granted, I enjoy rock n roll music. But I like some rap. As a white man, am I not able to enjoy rap on its own?  Should I be needing them to insert white stuff into their music? No! Otherwise, it wouldn’t be authentic. Do your thing.  I either like it or don’t.  Why are we shoving this lifestyle down EVERYONES throats?  That’s my gripe.
Most superheroes are white males.

So when Black Panther hit the big screen, I can not tell you how excited some of my students at school were. Legit seeing someone who looks like them be a major superhero was incredible for them.

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(10-12-2021, 08:27 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 07:59 PM)Jags Wrote: I’m not here to argue if it’s “ok” to be gay or not.  Some people are, most aren’t.  I suppose my argument is why are we as a society changing classic comics to cater to gay people?  Are gay people unable to enjoy it how it was?  Do gay people only enjoy it if there is homosexual things happening?  That sounds absurd!  You either like it or not.  Granted, I enjoy rock n roll music. But I like some rap. As a white man, am I not able to enjoy rap on its own?  Should I be needing them to insert white stuff into their music? No! Otherwise, it wouldn’t be authentic. Do your thing.  I either like it or don’t.  Why are we shoving this lifestyle down EVERYONES throats?  That’s my gripe.
Most superheroes are white males.

So when Black Panther hit the big screen, I can not tell you how excited some of my students at school were. Legit seeing someone who looks like them be a major superhero was incredible for them.

Sometimes kids just wanna see someone who looks like them do something cool.

You’re missing the point.  Big time. 

Where have we said Black people can’t be a super hero?  Let me know how you feel when black panther starts to like other dudes. He can be rainbow panther then. Will your African American students still say “legit”?
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(10-12-2021, 08:37 PM)Jags Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 08:27 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Most superheroes are white males.

So when Black Panther hit the big screen, I can not tell you how excited some of my students at school were. Legit seeing someone who looks like them be a major superhero was incredible for them.

Sometimes kids just wanna see someone who looks like them do something cool.

You’re missing the point.  Big time. 

Where have we said Black people can’t be a super hero?  Let me know how you feel when black panther starts to like other dudes. He can be rainbow panther then.
It’s the same concept dude. There are people who got mad that Spiderman was Hispanic in the “Spider-Man into the multiverse” movie. So now we have people getting upset that Batman happens to be gay. 

Imagine being a kid who’s gay and FINALLY seeing Batman, a super cool superhero, who’s gay. That’s going to be cool for you.
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(10-12-2021, 08:37 PM)Jags Wrote:
(10-12-2021, 08:27 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Most superheroes are white males.

So when Black Panther hit the big screen, I can not tell you how excited some of my students at school were. Legit seeing someone who looks like them be a major superhero was incredible for them.

Sometimes kids just wanna see someone who looks like them do something cool.

You’re missing the point.  Big time. 

Where have we said Black people can’t be a super hero?  Let me know how you feel when black panther starts to like other dudes. He can be rainbow panther then. Will your African American students still say “legit”?

It's not Superman "turning" gay. It's his son being born gay. I'm sure if Black Panther's son or daughter were born gay, fans who were also gay would be very happy.
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