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Ben Bartch - RG of the future??

#41

(10-15-2021, 07:16 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote:
(10-04-2021, 03:52 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Is Little being redshirted his rookie year?

He opted out in 2020, and if I'm not mistaken was injured prior to that.  Looks like he's a project at this point.

I HATE selecting projects that early in the draft.
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#42

(10-15-2021, 08:01 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(10-15-2021, 07:16 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: He opted out in 2020, and if I'm not mistaken was injured prior to that.  Looks like he's a project at this point.

I HATE selecting projects that early in the draft.

He isn't a project. He was a high first round projected pick.
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#43

Little isn't the project.
Meyer is the project.
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#44

Little was never a "project" coming out...

His talent was never in question or doubt, in fact, most pundits/analysts valued him as a solid first round pick like Dimson mentioned.

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#45
(This post was last modified: 10-16-2021, 12:23 AM by TheO-LineMatters.)

(10-15-2021, 08:06 PM)Dimson Wrote:
(10-15-2021, 08:01 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I HATE selecting projects that early in the draft.

He isn't a project. He was a high first round projected pick.

That doesn't mean he isn't a project. The guy hadn't played football in 2 years before he was drafted. If that isn't a project, nothing is.

(10-15-2021, 08:34 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Little isn't the project.
Meyer is the project.

Little is a project and Meyer is clueless.
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#46
(This post was last modified: 10-16-2021, 12:42 AM by enigma.)

Little was already touted as one of the better OT's in his freshman year in 2017.

He was the first true freshman to start at left tackle for Stanford since 2000 and he won the PAC-12 Freshman Offensive Player of the Year award.

Walker Little was never a "project"....

You wanna know what a project is? Matt Jones, the converted Arkansas QB to WR.

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#47

(10-16-2021, 12:22 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(10-15-2021, 08:06 PM)Dimson Wrote: He isn't a project. He was a high first round projected pick.

That doesn't mean he isn't a project. The guy hadn't played football in 2 years before he was drafted. If that isn't a project, nothing is.

(10-15-2021, 08:34 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Little isn't the project.
Meyer is the project.

Little is a project and Meyer is clueless.

You have a bad idea of what a project is.

But I don't want you stomping your feet and holding your breath so I won't argue.
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#48

According to what Boselli said on the radio a few weeks ago, Bartch’s arrested development is due to his hands. Poor hand speed and placement have bedeviled him. Maybe he’s turned a corner.
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#49

(10-16-2021, 12:22 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(10-15-2021, 08:06 PM)Dimson Wrote: He isn't a project. He was a high first round projected pick.

That doesn't mean he isn't a project. The guy hadn't played football in 2 years before he was drafted. If that isn't a project, nothing is.

(10-15-2021, 08:34 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Little isn't the project.
Meyer is the project.

Little is a project and Meyer is clueless.

So Trey Lance is a project?
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#50

(10-16-2021, 03:15 PM)Kane Wrote:
(10-16-2021, 12:22 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: That doesn't mean he isn't a project. The guy hadn't played football in 2 years before he was drafted. If that isn't a project, nothing is.


Little is a project and Meyer is clueless.

So Trey Lance is a project?

Moreso than Little and less so than Bartch.
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#52

Downgraded to Out.
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#53

Sigh. Hopefully he is okay and get back on the field next week.
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#54

Richardson stepped in and didn’t miss a beat. Jawan Taylor on the other hand.....woah
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#55
(This post was last modified: 10-17-2021, 01:05 PM by Kane.)

(10-17-2021, 08:47 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(10-16-2021, 03:15 PM)Kane Wrote: So Trey Lance is a project?

Moreso than Little and less so than Bartch.

Wonder if the 9ers know they spent a lot of draft capital on a project....

(10-17-2021, 01:03 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: Richardson stepped in and didn’t miss a beat. Jawan Taylor on the other hand.....woah

We had 2 backup OL guys all game and a 3rd stringer for like a half.... And Taylor was the only glaring problem.
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#56

(10-17-2021, 01:03 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: Richardson stepped in and didn’t miss a beat. Jawan Taylor on the other hand.....woah

I'm not sure we can make this determination that quickly based on TV tape.

Once Bartch went out is when Taylor started to have issues, especially on blitzes. No idea how protections changed or communication/etc play out until one sees the full 22 tape.

I do think they Trevor calling out protections and Mike now too with Linder out, so that could also affect all of this.
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#57

(10-16-2021, 03:15 PM)Kane Wrote:
(10-16-2021, 12:22 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: That doesn't mean he isn't a project. The guy hadn't played football in 2 years before he was drafted. If that isn't a project, nothing is.


Little is a project and Meyer is clueless.

So Trey Lance is a project?

Absolutely.
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#58
(This post was last modified: 10-17-2021, 01:17 PM by Kane. Edited 1 time in total.)

(10-17-2021, 01:09 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(10-16-2021, 03:15 PM)Kane Wrote: So Trey Lance is a project?

Absolutely.

Okay well they spent a lot of picks. We spent a 2nd rounder. I wouldn't be up in arms about Little being a "project".

And I still don't agree he's a project. His footwork is good his strength is good just needs to work on hands.
I'd put him out there over Taylor right now if I was coach. In year 3 he looks more like a project than anyone

(10-17-2021, 01:06 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:
(10-17-2021, 01:03 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: Richardson stepped in and didn’t miss a beat. Jawan Taylor on the other hand.....woah

I'm not sure we can make this determination that quickly based on TV tape.

Once Bartch went out is when Taylor started to have issues, especially on blitzes. No idea how protections changed or communication/etc play out until one sees the full 22 tape.

I do think they Trevor calling out protections and Mike now too with Linder out, so that could also affect all of this.

Taylor was having issues from snap 1. Almost all of the pressure came from his side. The sack fumble and another sack came from pure speed rush around the outside. He sucks. And I was a big defender of his last season. Maybe warhop doesn't develop guys well or he just sucks but I'm so over Taylor at this point
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#59

Lance is a high ceiling, high bust potential kind of pick. He's hardly played in college and that at a small school. He's the "new" NFL prototype QB more than the traditional one, but he's playing for a coach who can maximize that. I think he's a project just because he's a relative unknown.

Taylor is a failed project.
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#60

(10-17-2021, 11:55 AM)rpr52121 Wrote: Sigh. Hopefully he is okay and get back on the field next week.

Bye next week so he has 2 weeks to recover.
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