And I thought only right wingers were conspiracy theorist..........

Twitter Blue Check Poses Conspiracy Theory: A Trump Supporter Loaded Alec Baldwin’s Gun

Liberal science publisher Johannes Josephus Marinus Velterop, who has a verified account on Twitter, posed without evidence on Friday that a supporter of former President Donald Trump secretly planted live ammunition in a prop gun actor and co-producer Alec Baldwin shot on the set of “Rust,” killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounding director Joel Souza.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/twitter-b...Q8aaY-9MtA

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And I thought only right wingers were conspiracy theorist..........

Twitter Blue Check Poses Conspiracy Theory: A Trump Supporter Loaded Alec Baldwin’s Gun

Liberal science publisher Johannes Josephus Marinus Velterop, who has a verified account on Twitter, posed without evidence on Friday that a supporter of former President Donald Trump secretly planted live ammunition in a prop gun actor and co-producer Alec Baldwin shot on the set of “Rust,” killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounding director Joel Souza.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/twitter-b...Q8aaY-9MtA

Even if true, he still didn't check the gun, no one else checked it, and he pointed the gun at her and pulled the trigger. They all seem to be missing the point that he shot her and bullets only go straight.

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Of course he is the victim. You can not ignore the mental trauma associated with this type of accident.  As it has been said, if he has been given a gun and been told it is a cold gun. He has an armorer on set to take responsibility for the guns.

No he is not a victim.  His negligence was part of the reason for this tragedy.  The armorer has some liability, be she is not the sole blame or cause of this tragedy.  I outlined above the failures in the chain-of-custody of the firearm.  All three persons involved are to blame up to and including Alec Baldwin.

Everyone affected by the negligence of the armorer is a victim.  Some more so than others, but all victims nonetheless. I doubt Alec will seek damages but to say he is not a victim is nonsense.

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It's got to be emotionally heart wrenching.

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And I thought only right wingers were conspiracy theorist..........

Twitter Blue Check Poses Conspiracy Theory: A Trump Supporter Loaded Alec Baldwin’s Gun

Liberal science publisher Johannes Josephus Marinus Velterop, who has a verified account on Twitter, posed without evidence on Friday that a supporter of former President Donald Trump secretly planted live ammunition in a prop gun actor and co-producer Alec Baldwin shot on the set of “Rust,” killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounding director Joel Souza.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/twitter-b...Q8aaY-9MtA

and this has more credibility than 99% of the rubbish you harvest and post

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OK, I'm not sure of the source, I'm just putting this out there for you to investigate and decide for yourself.....

Alec Baldwin arrested for first-degree murder and possession of child pornography – media blackout

The Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office has arrested Alec Baldwin and charged him with first-degree murder as well as possession of child pornography, and ordered a media blackout that has been approved by a judge. Outlets in the United States are temporarily banned from reporting on Baldwin’s arrest.

https://www.conservativebeaver.com/2021/...64VdN-JLp8

Typical Drifter post here.  No thoughts of his own.  Garbage link.

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No he is not a victim.  His negligence was part of the reason for this tragedy.  The armorer has some liability, be she is not the sole blame or cause of this tragedy.  I outlined above the failures in the chain-of-custody of the firearm.  All three persons involved are to blame up to and including Alec Baldwin.

Everyone affected by the negligence of the armorer is a victim.  Some more so than others, but all victims nonetheless. I doubt Alec will seek damages but to say he is not a victim is nonsense.

You keep trying to blame the armorer, but it was not necessarily her fault.  The assistant director who negligently handed Baldwin the firearm while claiming that it was unloaded had been fired in the past for safety violation involving a firearm.

The incident occurred when Dave Halls, an assistant director, handed the prop gun -- one of three on hand -- to Baldwin, and said, "Cold gun," to let the crew know that a gun with no live rounds was being handled, according to a search warrant from Santa Fe County obtained by ABC News.

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Halls told investigators that he didn't know there were rounds in the gun when he handed it to Baldwin, according to the warrant.

This is not the first time that Halls has allegedly been involved in an on-set mishap involving a gun, according to a crew member who worked with him in the past.

The ultimate person responsible is the person who pulled the trigger (Alec Baldwin).  To say that he is a "victim" is ignorant nonsense.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Learning that captivating lives in Australia makes things so much more clear now.

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Everyone affected by the negligence of the armorer is a victim.  Some more so than others, but all victims nonetheless. I doubt Alec will seek damages but to say he is not a victim is nonsense.

You keep trying to blame the armorer, but it was not necessarily her fault.  The assistant director who negligently handed Baldwin the firearm while claiming that it was unloaded had been fired in the past for safety violation involving a firearm.

The incident occurred when Dave Halls, an assistant director, handed the prop gun -- one of three on hand -- to Baldwin, and said, "Cold gun," to let the crew know that a gun with no live rounds was being handled, according to a search warrant from Santa Fe County obtained by ABC News.

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Halls told investigators that he didn't know there were rounds in the gun when he handed it to Baldwin, according to the warrant.

This is not the first time that Halls has allegedly been involved in an on-set mishap involving a gun, according to a crew member who worked with him in the past.

The ultimate person responsible is the person who pulled the trigger (Alec Baldwin).  To say that he is a "victim" is ignorant nonsense.

Normally, I would agree with you. I know basic safety protocol in any circle I run in is to check the magazine and the chamber. However, I'm not sure that makes sense if we're talking about blanks. Considering I've never used a blank, or even know what one looks like, it wouldn't do much good to double check the chamber. I'm assuming he was handed a revolver (being a western), so is he supposed to pull out each round every time he's handed the weapon to shoot a scene? I think that's why they have an armorer. This looks like it's on the assistant producer.

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You keep trying to blame the armorer, but it was not necessarily her fault.  The assistant director who negligently handed Baldwin the firearm while claiming that it was unloaded had been fired in the past for safety violation involving a firearm.


The ultimate person responsible is the person who pulled the trigger (Alec Baldwin).  To say that he is a "victim" is ignorant nonsense.

Normally, I would agree with you. I know basic safety protocol in any circle I run in is to check the magazine and the chamber. However, I'm not sure that makes sense if we're talking about blanks. Considering I've never used a blank, or even know what one looks like, it wouldn't do much good to double check the chamber. I'm assuming he was handed a revolver (being a western), so is he supposed to pull out each round every time he's handed the weapon to shoot a scene? I think that's why they have an armorer. This looks like it's on the assistant producer.

It's not hard to distinguish between a blank and a live round.  A blank is a regular cartridge with no bullet.  Also checking a revolver is as simple as opening the cylinder to see if it is indeed loaded or not.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Lawyers to finger pointers: “Yes, yes, go on.”

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Normally, I would agree with you. I know basic safety protocol in any circle I run in is to check the magazine and the chamber. However, I'm not sure that makes sense if we're talking about blanks. Considering I've never used a blank, or even know what one looks like, it wouldn't do much good to double check the chamber. I'm assuming he was handed a revolver (being a western), so is he supposed to pull out each round every time he's handed the weapon to shoot a scene? I think that's why they have an armorer. This looks like it's on the assistant producer.

It's not hard to distinguish between a blank and a live round.  A blank is a regular cartridge with no bullet.  Also checking a revolver is as simple as opening the cylinder to see if it is indeed loaded or not.

To someone who isn't used to guns, that's not true. This was a revolver and there are some wadcutter ammo that look a lot like blanks, if you don't know what you are looking for.

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Yeah... the point is they have an armorer for a reason. I don't know that I would trust actors or actresses to be responsible for their guns. There's just too many moving pieces. I guess you could hold Alec Baldwin responsible for taking a gun from an assistant producer? I mean, there has to be some time of chain of command, right?

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Everyone affected by the negligence of the armorer is a victim.  Some more so than others, but all victims nonetheless. I doubt Alec will seek damages but to say he is not a victim is nonsense.

You keep trying to blame the armorer, but it was not necessarily her fault.  The assistant director who negligently handed Baldwin the firearm while claiming that it was unloaded had been fired in the past for safety violation involving a firearm.

The incident occurred when Dave Halls, an assistant director, handed the prop gun -- one of three on hand -- to Baldwin, and said, "Cold gun," to let the crew know that a gun with no live rounds was being handled, according to a search warrant from Santa Fe County obtained by ABC News.

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Halls told investigators that he didn't know there were rounds in the gun when he handed it to Baldwin, according to the warrant.

This is not the first time that Halls has allegedly been involved in an on-set mishap involving a gun, according to a crew member who worked with him in the past.

The ultimate person responsible is the person who pulled the trigger (Alec Baldwin).  To say that he is a "victim" is ignorant nonsense.

If the loaded handgun had malfunctioned / backfired and Baldwin was injured instead, are you saying he would not be a victim because he pulled the trigger?  Regardless of who handed Baldwin the gun, the armorer is responsible for gun safety on set.

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What makes this even more horrible is it was on the set of a D list actor. His best movie was the cooler and that was because William H Macy.

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and right on cue, a jerk tries to profit from tragedy. Rather than setting up a go fund me page, or offering support, this piece of turd only sees $$

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-tru...e-t-shirts

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and right on cue, a jerk tries to profit from tragedy. Rather than setting up a go fund me page, or offering support, this piece of turd only sees $$

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-tru...e-t-shirts

Everything on that shirt is a fact.

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and right on cue, a jerk tries to profit from tragedy. Rather than setting up a go fund me page, or offering support, this piece of turd only sees $$

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-tru...e-t-shirts

Everything on that shirt is a fact.

I'll take 2..

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and right on cue, a jerk tries to profit from tragedy. Rather than setting up a go fund me page, or offering support, this piece of turd only sees $$

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-tru...e-t-shirts

By the way, Eric Trumps philanthropy is St. Jude, and I'd be willing to bet most proceeds from Don's factual shirt will go towards the family or the victim Baldwin killed.

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I Stand Behind Alec Baldwin........

Because no way in HELL am I standing in front of him...........

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