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An interesting quote I read this morning.....
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
I feel we are definitely seeing this happen in our country. I don't know the context in which it was said, I do plan to look it up, but on its own it says a great deal. I know folks here have very different ideas of what (or who) is considered good and evil and am interested in what this quote looks like from your point of view. And lets try to be civil about it and not devolve into name calling. I'm really tired of seeing grown adults regressing to petty elementary school behavior. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Read Repressive Tolerance. This is exactly what Herbert Marcuse was teaching at the Frankfurt school. This is a component of Critical Theory, which spawned Critical Race Theory. It's all the same [BLEEP].
https://www.marcuse.org/herbert/publicat...ltext.html There is nothing accepting about progressive ideology. It's their way or the highway, and until the moderates wake up, it will be more of the same.
Like all of their ideologies, this dissertation starts reasonable and descends into totalitarianism wearing the mask of enlightenment. I really loathe these dudes.
Quote:While the reversal of the trend in the educational enterprise at least could conceivably be enforced by the students and teachers themselves, and thus be self-imposed, the systematic withdrawal of tolerance toward regressive and repressive opinions and movements could only be envisaged as results of large-scale pressure which would amount to an upheaval. In other words, it would presuppose that which is still to be accomplished: the reversal of the trend. However, resistance at particular occasions, boycott, non-participation at the local and small-group level may perhaps prepare the ground The subversive character of the restoration of freedom appears most clearly in that dimension of society where false tolerance and free enterprise do perhaps the most serious and lasting damage, namely in business and publicity. Against the emphatic insistence on the part of spokesmen for labor, I maintain that practices such as planned obsolescence, collusion between union leadership and management, slanted publicity are not simply imposed from above on a powerless rank and file, but are tolerated by them and the consumer at large. However, it would be ridiculous to speak of a possible withdrawal of tolerance with respect to these practices and to the ideologies promoted by them. For they pertain to the basis on which the repressive affluent society rests and reproduces itself and its vital defenses - their removal would be that total revolution which this society so effectively repels.
That passage is about 3/4 of the way into his essay. He starts talking about the importance of of free speech and democracy, but ultimately concludes that the system in the US must be overthrown. So, you preach tolerance for the ideologies that are good (critical theory/socialism), and repressive ideas that are bad, like the American way of life. It's all [BLEEP].
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Quote:Suppression of the regressive ones is a prerequisite for the strengthening of the progressive ones. Another quote from that passage. Anyone who doesn't support socialist ideology is a regressive. You have to understand that to interpret his works. And, please, don't make the mistake of thinking Herbert Marcuse was a nobody. He was extremely influential in the Frankfurt School. Their ideologies gained a foothold in Berkley, and have been spreading to all the universities around the world since. You can see their influence in all of modern dialogue, just reskinned to fit the next generation.
I believe the original quote came from Karl popper, and he was speaking about Nazis in 1930s Germany.
What the left is doing today is the second stage of the quote. They already have the right to speak their views freely, and they have progressed to demanding that anyone who questions minority sex and gender choices be silent. As conservatives, we have to push back against this. If we simply exercise our right to speak freely about our views of sex and gender, we are the good guys. But if we try to take away their right to speak, as it was in the bad old days, then we become the bad guys.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
I'm on the fence about that. I used to feel that way strongly, but it's looking more and more like an impossible obstacle to overcome. The whole reason that NAZI's and Fascists gained power is to leverage the power of the state against communists (who were doing the same thing). I can see the right adopting a similar position. It's not ideal, but the left is tireless in thirst for dominance.
(11-06-2021, 10:44 AM)The Drifter Wrote: All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing! Yes, that's is a good quote. Makes me think of another. And it's also important to remember that no one thinks of themselves as evil. Introspection and the willingness to question one's own assumptions is a key to not falling into the trap of hubris. "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." -Epictetus
I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (11-06-2021, 06:22 PM)MarleyJag Wrote:(11-06-2021, 10:44 AM)The Drifter Wrote: All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing! "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding" - Upton Sinclair
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
(11-06-2021, 10:08 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good. Not to be the grammar police, but I think you have too many “O’s” in the last word of the first paragraph (11-06-2021, 07:39 PM)Jags Wrote:(11-06-2021, 10:08 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good. Let's not go there.
I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.
I was once told “You have the right to remain silent. Whatever you…” No, wait. Not that one.
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Thanks for replying guys. This kind of got lost in the shuffle this week. It's been a busy one and we're just halfway through.
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