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2022 Free Agency Wish List

#81

Also not sure if he's already been mentioned, but De'Vondre Campbell had an awesome year for the Packers and they don't have much cap room so perhaps we could have a chance to give a big contract to an actually really good LB instead of Jack.
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#82

(01-12-2022, 08:38 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: My wish list is we resign Chark, and sign Mike Williams and Scherff.  Would be a great FA hall

I would love that, but I just don't see it happening.
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#83

Chargers have a ton of cap room and Mike Williams had an awesome year. They ain't letting him go.
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#84
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2022, 08:41 AM by ATLjag. Edited 3 times in total.)

(01-12-2022, 01:09 PM)Holger Wrote:
(01-12-2022, 12:24 PM)D6 Wrote: Interestingly, there's speculation that the Jets could have interest in trading for Myles Jack and the trade compensation to the Jaguars would be a 3rd or 4th Round Pick. 

The Jets have landed a young, athletic starting linebacker in a proposed trade. | Nokia News (nokiamobilephonenews.co.uk)

Are we sure about these cap numbers for Jack? he has two years left on his contract. 4.8mln split over these two years as bonus with 10mln per year base salary. Looks like it on over the cap. If he was cut this offseason, his bonus would be dead money but his cap savings would be a lot less than 26mln, roughly 10mln. I would NOT cut him. Definitely not at these numbers.
Jack has 2 years left on his deal, and has $4.8m in unamortized signing bonus dollars, that were being amortized $2.4m each year.  With workout bonus, base salary, and amortized bonus, Jack's 2022 cap is $13.15m and 2023 cap is $13.9m.  If Jack is traded or released this offseason, his unamortized $4.8m remaining signing bonus would be fully accelerated into the 2022 cap figure, delivering a net 2022 cap savings of $8.35m ($13.15m less $4.8m), and a 2023 cap savings of $13.9m.

I would be tempted by a 3rd round selection for Jack, but would rather him play out his contract here if he would only deliver a 4th round selection. Jack, IMO, is a quality NFL player, in which the Jags are in lack of on the roster. I don't believe the Jags are in need of the cap savings.
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#85

(01-13-2022, 08:35 AM)ATLjag Wrote:
(01-12-2022, 01:09 PM)Holger Wrote: Are we sure about these cap numbers for Jack? he has two years left on his contract. 4.8mln split over these two years as bonus with 10mln per year base salary. Looks like it on over the cap. If he was cut this offseason, his bonus would be dead money but his cap savings would be a lot less than 26mln, roughly 10mln. I would NOT cut him. Definitely not at these numbers.
Jack has 2 years left on his deal, and has $4.8m in unamortized signing bonus dollars, that were being amortized $2.4m each year.  With workout bonus, base salary, and amortized bonus, Jack's 2022 cap is $13.15m and 2023 cap is $13.9m.  If Jack is traded or released this offseason, his unamortized $4.8m remaining signing bonus would be fully accelerated into the 2022 cap figure, delivering a net 2022 cap savings of $8.35m ($13.15m less $4.8m), and a 2023 cap savings of $13.9m.

I would be tempted by a 3rd round selection for Jack, but would rather him play out his contract here if he would only deliver a 4th round selection.  Jack, IMO, is a quality NFL player, in which the Jags are in lack of on the roster.  I don't believe the Jags are in need of the cap savings.

Seriously, it would be the dumbest thing possible to start trading away good players for more draft picks, at a time when this team is starved for good players.  And a 3rd round pick for Myles Jack?  That's ridiculous.  

It's high time this team starts keeping its good players.  We tried tearing the team down to the studs and rebuilding from scratch under Dave Caldwell, and that was a disaster.
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#86

(01-13-2022, 12:04 AM)Upper Wrote: Chargers have a ton of cap room and Mike Williams had an awesome year. They ain't letting him go.
Agreed. If they let Williams go, then they're looking for the next Mike Williams to replace him.

I think next years room is going to be Chark, Kirk, MJJ, Dotson (or another rookie) and possibly Gallup.
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#87
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2022, 09:43 AM by flgatorsandjags. Edited 1 time in total.)

No thank you on Kirk but he could get resigned as well.. Really any of these guys could get resigned but we need to prepare to offer them something until they get tagged or extended. Hopefully Williams will want to go somewhere were he can be WR1 and here can in Jax and I think he would love to play with Trevor as well. Hopefully Williams will test the FA market. Of course they could tag him but I'm looking and planning on offering a contract until they do. Here is a article where he shouldn't even be in the top 5 guys of who the Chargers need to resign.

https://boltbeat.com/posts/chargers-free...2-resigned
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#88

I agree ATLjag. Trading - or even worse releasing - Myles Jack would be dumb. You really think you get a better player in the third round? And this team does NOT need to save money or cap space. Myles Jack is paid pretty much where his value is. We dont need to upgrade from average player on reasonable contract to average player on cheap rookie deal. We need to upgrade from bad player to above average/star player.
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#89

The problem with the don't trade Jack crowd is the false premise that he is a good player.
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#90

(01-13-2022, 09:27 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(01-13-2022, 08:35 AM)ATLjag Wrote: Jack has 2 years left on his deal, and has $4.8m in unamortized signing bonus dollars, that were being amortized $2.4m each year.  With workout bonus, base salary, and amortized bonus, Jack's 2022 cap is $13.15m and 2023 cap is $13.9m.  If Jack is traded or released this offseason, his unamortized $4.8m remaining signing bonus would be fully accelerated into the 2022 cap figure, delivering a net 2022 cap savings of $8.35m ($13.15m less $4.8m), and a 2023 cap savings of $13.9m.

I would be tempted by a 3rd round selection for Jack, but would rather him play out his contract here if he would only deliver a 4th round selection.  Jack, IMO, is a quality NFL player, in which the Jags are in lack of on the roster.  I don't believe the Jags are in need of the cap savings.

Seriously, it would be the dumbest thing possible to start trading away good players for more draft picks, at a time when this team is starved for good players.  And a 3rd round pick for Myles Jack?  That's ridiculous.  

It's high time this team starts keeping its good players.  We tried tearing the team down to the studs and rebuilding from scratch under Dave Caldwell, and that was a disaster.

What good player? Jack is a complete liability in a 3-4 scheme, which is what we run. Why keep a liability? He doesn't fit the system.
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#91

(01-13-2022, 09:30 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(01-13-2022, 12:04 AM)Upper Wrote: Chargers have a ton of cap room and Mike Williams had an awesome year. They ain't letting him go.
Agreed. If they let Williams go, then they're looking for the next Mike Williams to replace him.

I think next years room is going to be Chark, Kirk, MJJ, Dotson (or another rookie) and possibly Gallup.

If you include Gallup, I'd be fine with this group. If they added a 6th receiver, it would be either Treadwell or Shenault. Treadwell has the size the others lack and Shenault can be a good gadget player. However, if his hands don't improve he won't last long with any team.
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#92
(This post was last modified: 01-14-2022, 01:46 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

My top defensive player i want in FA made 1st team All Pro today

https://twitter.com/NFL_Talk_Sports/stat...19649?s=20
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#93

Copycat
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#94

If we hire Leftwich, I could see him targeting Chris Godwin, Christian Kirk, OJ Howard, Alex Cappa, and Josh Rosen.
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#95

(01-14-2022, 03:25 PM)HolsterHusto Wrote: If we hire Leftwich, I could see him targeting Chris Godwin, Christian Kirk, OJ Howard, Alex Cappa, and Josh Rosen.

4/5 of those ain't bad lol
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#96

(01-14-2022, 03:25 PM)HolsterHusto Wrote: If we hire Leftwich, I could see him targeting Chris Godwin, Christian Kirk, OJ Howard, Alex Cappa, and Josh Rosen.
Is OJ a FA? If so, I'm in for that.

I think Godwin is going to be very sought after even with the ACL injury but Byron may help. Kirk I think is going to be a top option for the Jags even if he's not a true #1.
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#97
(This post was last modified: 01-14-2022, 04:18 PM by flgatorsandjags. Edited 2 times in total.)

(01-14-2022, 03:08 PM)Upper Wrote: Copycat

Yes you are. The 2nd post in this thread made it clear
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#98

Trent Brown is a guy we need to target if we don't bring back Cam, and I don't think we will. He would be a nice upgrade to Taylor
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#99
(This post was last modified: 01-19-2022, 04:35 AM by ChrisJagBoy.)

(01-13-2022, 09:30 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(01-13-2022, 12:04 AM)Upper Wrote: Chargers have a ton of cap room and Mike Williams had an awesome year. They ain't letting him go.
Agreed. If they let Williams go, then they're looking for the next Mike Williams to replace him.

I think next years room is going to be Chark, Kirk, MJJ, Dotson (or another rookie) and possibly Gallup.

Hope you don't expect much growth from Trevor with the additions of Kirk and Dotson lmao. They NEED to get one of the top 3 FA wrs.

(01-13-2022, 12:31 PM)Upper Wrote: The problem with the don't trade Jack crowd is the false premise that he is a good player.

The problem with Jack is that he thrived as an OLB in a 4-3 scheme. Having less ground to watch over in coverage and being a guy who can play the run a bit more. Now he's dropping as a ILB and his coverage ability is lacking.. same reason he wasn't good as Poz's replacement at MLB in 2018.
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(01-19-2022, 04:32 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: The problem with Jack is that he thrived as an OLB in a 4-3 scheme. Having less ground to watch over in coverage and being a guy who can play the run a bit more. Now he's dropping as a ILB and his coverage ability is lacking.. same reason he wasn't good as Poz's replacement at MLB in 2018.

Meh, he was way overrated as a 4-3 WILL too. He had a couple stretches of games where he played up to the hype, but only for a few games and certainly not for a whole season.
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