We drafted Little to be LT of the future and we have the option to tag Cam Robinson. We do NOT need a LT right now. We DO need an edge rusher to pair with Josh Allen though. We need to work on the defensive trenches and add skill players for Lawrence to throw to.

The Jags have drafted a lot of players to do a lot of things that have not turned out. We DO need to do a LT right now. I am sure you will be happy to correct me if I am wrong, but other than WL there is no one that has started a game at or even played significant time at LT, for anyone, on the roster. The approach the Jags will want to take, who knows what they will do. With a name like "TheO-LineMatters" I would certainly think that you would want what has been one of the weakest links of this team for years fixed, the Oline...

That is why I advocate tagging Cam Robinson. Walker Little most likely plays LT and you can move Robinson to RT. Then we can work on upgrading the interior O-Line via the draft and free agency. By doing this we are only committing to Robinson for one year via the tag and it buys us time to concentrate on other areas of need (receivers and edge rushers). Hopefully, in the 2023 draft there will actually be an OT worthy of a first round selection, if Little doesn't work out at LT. I have been advocating for us to fix the OT situation for years, but this current OT class is the weakest I've seen in forever. Other than Trevor Penning, I don't see a single guy in this draft that I would commit to as a long term solution at LT. Taking a glorified RT with the first pick of the draft would be a complete wastes of assets.

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The Jags have drafted a lot of players to do a lot of things that have not turned out. We DO need to do a LT right now. I am sure you will be happy to correct me if I am wrong, but other than WL there is no one that has started a game at or even played significant time at LT, for anyone, on the roster. The approach the Jags will want to take, who knows what they will do. With a name like "TheO-LineMatters" I would certainly think that you would want what has been one of the weakest links of this team for years fixed, the Oline...

That is why I advocate tagging Cam Robinson. Walker Little most likely plays LT and you can move Robinson to RT. Then we can work on upgrading the interior O-Line via the draft and free agency. By doing this we are only committing to Robinson for one year via the tag and it buys us time to concentrate on other areas of need (receivers and edge rushers). Hopefully, in the 2023 draft there will actually be an OT worthy of a first round selection, if Little doesn't work out at LT. I have been advocating for us to fix the OT situation for years, but this current OT class is the weakest I've seen in forever. Other than Trevor Penning, I don't see a single guy in this draft that I would commit to as a long term solution at LT. Taking a glorified RT with the first pick of the draft would be a complete wastes of assets.

But but but what if Cam says he doesn’t want to play RT?!

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That is why I advocate tagging Cam Robinson. Walker Little most likely plays LT and you can move Robinson to RT. Then we can work on upgrading the interior O-Line via the draft and free agency. By doing this we are only committing to Robinson for one year via the tag and it buys us time to concentrate on other areas of need (receivers and edge rushers). Hopefully, in the 2023 draft there will actually be an OT worthy of a first round selection, if Little doesn't work out at LT. I have been advocating for us to fix the OT situation for years, but this current OT class is the weakest I've seen in forever. Other than Trevor Penning, I don't see a single guy in this draft that I would commit to as a long term solution at LT. Taking a glorified RT with the first pick of the draft would be a complete wastes of assets.

But but but what if Cam says he doesn’t want to play RT?!

I don't care what Cam says, he'd be under contract. He'd either play RT or he would get fined. I'm tired of our players trying to dictate how the team is run. If he didn't like how the franchise tag works, take it up with Roger Goodell. When he is under contract, we have the right to shift him to whatever position we choose.

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That is why I advocate tagging Cam Robinson. Walker Little most likely plays LT and you can move Robinson to RT. Then we can work on upgrading the interior O-Line via the draft and free agency. By doing this we are only committing to Robinson for one year via the tag and it buys us time to concentrate on other areas of need (receivers and edge rushers). Hopefully, in the 2023 draft there will actually be an OT worthy of a first round selection, if Little doesn't work out at LT. I have been advocating for us to fix the OT situation for years, but this current OT class is the weakest I've seen in forever. Other than Trevor Penning, I don't see a single guy in this draft that I would commit to as a long term solution at LT. Taking a glorified RT with the first pick of the draft would be a complete wastes of assets.

But but but what if Cam says he doesn’t want to play RT?!

I understand the strategy of what o-line matters is saying. If we go that route ok... I would rather see us take Neal first. Why? Well he only gave up 24 pressures over the last 2 years against the best level of competition week in and week out. That is at both right tackle and left tackle. That also gives us flexibility. Trevor Penning is a unique prospect as well, and his stats are off the chart, but against mostly FCS opponents. Can he step up and play that good week in and week out against tougher competition? A big question and a huge risk. Both edge rushers were non-factors in the few games I was able to watch them in. They were neutralized by lesser linemen.  We are picking number one this year, if our new coaching staff is successful we will not be doing that for a long time. All I hope is those that are making this decision get it right for now and the future.

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But but but what if Cam says he doesn’t want to play RT?!

I understand the strategy of what o-line matters is saying. If we go that route ok... I would rather see us take Neal first. Why? Well he only gave up 24 pressures over the last 2 years against the best level of competition week in and week out. That is at both right tackle and left tackle. That also gives us flexibility. Trevor Penning is a unique prospect as well, and his stats are off the chart, but against mostly FCS opponents. Can he step up and play that good week in and week out against tougher competition? A big question and a huge risk. Both edge rushers were non-factors in the few games I was able to watch them in. They were neutralized by lesser linemen.  We are picking number one this year, if our new coaching staff is successful we will not be doing that for a long time. All I hope is those that are making this decision get it right for now and the future.

That's just stats. After watching numerous Alabama games last season, Neal was beat a lot more than I am even close to being comfortable with. It's just that his QB (Bryce Young) was so good and had so much pocket awareness, that he was able to get rid of the football before the defender was able to effect the pass. If Neal would have even had an average QB, he would not even be considered for the #1 OT prospect, much less the #1 overall pick. Sometimes stats don't tell the whole story and sometimes a very good QB can make average O-Linemen look much better than they actually are. Remember, Neal didn't play LT last season, because he was behind Alex Leatherwood. The same Alex Leatherwood who was so bad in his rookie year at RT for the Raiders, that they had to kick him inside to OG, just to save face.

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I understand the strategy of what o-line matters is saying. If we go that route ok... I would rather see us take Neal first. Why? Well he only gave up 24 pressures over the last 2 years against the best level of competition week in and week out. That is at both right tackle and left tackle. That also gives us flexibility. Trevor Penning is a unique prospect as well, and his stats are off the chart, but against mostly FCS opponents. Can he step up and play that good week in and week out against tougher competition? A big question and a huge risk. Both edge rushers were non-factors in the few games I was able to watch them in. They were neutralized by lesser linemen.  We are picking number one this year, if our new coaching staff is successful we will not be doing that for a long time. All I hope is those that are making this decision get it right for now and the future.

That's just stats. After watching numerous Alabama games last season, Neal was beat a lot more than I am even close to being comfortable with. It's just that his QB (Bryce Young) was so good and had so much pocket awareness, that he was able to get rid of the football before the defender was able to effect the pass. If Neal would have even had an average QB, he would not even be considered for the #1 OT prospect, much less the #1 overall pick. Sometimes stats don't tell the whole story and sometimes a very good QB can make average O-Linemen look much better than they actually are. Remember, Neal didn't play LT last season, because he was behind Alex Leatherwood. The same Alex Leatherwood who was so bad in his rookie year at RT for the Raiders, that they had to kick him inside to OG, just to save face.

I'm interested to see the outcome of the combine.  One name that's getting some hype is Ekwonu from NC State.  https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-dont-...48553.html

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Fix the O-Line!

Protect the QB and Affect the QB!


The One Hundered Thousand Dollar question is do you trust Cam Robinson to protect Lawrence?

PFF reported Cam gave up the 11th most hits on the QB this year.   To be fair, I do not know how much of that was related to the QB holding the ball too long.

Cam Robinson is no star but it will probably take star money to get a deal done.  I do not believe another 1 year rental of the franchise tag is good for neither Robinson or this team in the long Haul.   Has little done enough to solidify the spot and hopefully grow with more experience or does Baalke and Pederson really love one of these tackles in the draft? 

Free Agency doesn't look that promising at the moment for a LT of the future.

4 Logical Choices:

-Rent Cam another year
-Over pay for A free agent hoping it would be an upgrade
-Allow Little the chance to grow
-Draft a LT

One other option could also be interesting:  Take the Super bowl winning Rams approach and use some Draft Capital to trade for a LT.  I'm sure there are some cap restricted teams who would love to relieve some cap while also gaining a draft pick.   The Rams haven't had a first round pick in years and it's working for them.  Just a thought.

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But but but what if Cam says he doesn’t want to play RT?!

I don't care what Cam says, he'd be under contract. He'd either play RT or he would get fined. I'm tired of our players trying to dictate how the team is run. If he didn't like how the franchise tag works, take it up with Roger Goodell. When he is under contract, we have the right to shift him to whatever position we choose.

You can fine him all you want but how does that help Lawrence?  We need to make moves that helps Lawrence and that isn't helping, it's hurting Lawrence and we don't need to put our self in that situation not to mention this new coaching don't need that distraction

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Protect the QB and Affect the QB!


The One Hundered Thousand Dollar question is do you trust Cam Robinson to protect Lawrence?

PFF reported Cam gave up the 11th most hits on the QB this year.   To be fair, I do not know how much of that was related to the QB holding the ball too long.

Cam Robinson is no star but it will probably take star money to get a deal done.  I do not believe another 1 year rental of the franchise tag is good for neither Robinson or this team in the long Haul.   Has little done enough to solidify the spot and hopefully grow with more experience or does Baalke and Pederson really love one of these tackles in the draft? 

Free Agency doesn't look that promising at the moment for a LT of the future.

4 Logical Choices:

-Rent Cam another year
-Over pay for A free agent hoping it would be an upgrade
-Allow Little the chance to grow
-Draft a LT

One other option could also be interesting:  Take the Super bowl winning Rams approach and use some Draft Capital to trade for a LT.  I'm sure there are some cap restricted teams who would love to relieve some cap while also gaining a draft pick.   The Rams haven't had a first round pick in years and it's working for them.  Just a thought.

I'm good for trading away early picks when we get close.  We ain't close yet.  The Rams weren't trading away all their picks a few years ago when they went to the SB and lost, it was after that when they were close.  As far as LT, do B and C.  Over pay for proven RT and give Little a chance to grow.

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I don't care what Cam says, he'd be under contract. He'd either play RT or he would get fined. I'm tired of our players trying to dictate how the team is run. If he didn't like how the franchise tag works, take it up with Roger Goodell. When he is under contract, we have the right to shift him to whatever position we choose.

You can fine him all you want but how does that help Lawrence?  We need to make moves that helps Lawrence and that isn't helping, it's hurting Lawrence and we don't need to put our self in that situation not to mention this new coaching don't need that distraction

Because many of you are assuming he will cause a problem. Stop assuming, before it even happens. You guys are just guessing. Sit Robinson down when we tag him and explain how such a move can be good for his career. It will display his versatility and make him a much more prized commodity when we does hit free agency, thus making his value go up. Another words, "blow smoke up his butt!" Maybe he will welcome the move, we don't know. He'd certainly be an upgrade at RT over Taylor. OT's shift around the lines on every team all the time and rarely do we hear about them causing any problems. Just chill out.

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I would let cam walk, spend money or trade for a real right tackle, and draft a guard in the first 3 rounds. That said, I totally get it if we tag Cam Robinson. Protecting Trevor is key, and they may feel that need that insurance with Cam in the lineup.

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I would let cam walk, spend money or trade for a real right tackle, and draft a guard in the first 3 rounds. That said, I totally get it if we tag Cam Robinson. Protecting Trevor is key, and they may feel that need that insurance with Cam in the lineup.

If we let Cam walk, and signed or traded for a RT, we'd still need to find another player with experience as a LT, since we'd need a Swing Tackle as well. Will Richardson is an UFA and he did not play well enough to justify bringing him back.

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Protect the QB and Affect the QB!


The One Hundered Thousand Dollar question is do you trust Cam Robinson to protect Lawrence?

PFF reported Cam gave up the 11th most hits on the QB this year.   To be fair, I do not know how much of that was related to the QB holding the ball too long.

Cam Robinson is no star but it will probably take star money to get a deal done.  I do not believe another 1 year rental of the franchise tag is good for neither Robinson or this team in the long Haul.   Has little done enough to solidify the spot and hopefully grow with more experience or does Baalke and Pederson really love one of these tackles in the draft? 

Free Agency doesn't look that promising at the moment for a LT of the future.

4 Logical Choices:

-Rent Cam another year
-Over pay for A free agent hoping it would be an upgrade
-Allow Little the chance to grow
-Draft a LT

One other option could also be interesting:  Take the Super bowl winning Rams approach and use some Draft Capital to trade for a LT.  I'm sure there are some cap restricted teams who would love to relieve some cap while also gaining a draft pick.   The Rams haven't had a first round pick in years and it's working for them.  Just a thought.

Option 4 is definitely a no from me, since I don't see a LT worth drafting. Renting Cam for a year is probably the most realistic option. I definitely wouldn't be opposed to overpaying for a free agent either, as long as we get a good one. Allowing Little a chance to grow could mean anything. Playing him at LT would allow him to grow, but so would playing RT and keeping Robinson at LT. Either option is fine with me. 

I certainly wouldn't be opposed to trading for a good LT. If we could get someone like Laremy Tunsil, I'd be stoked!

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I would let cam walk, spend money or trade for a real right tackle, and draft a guard in the first 3 rounds. That said, I totally get it if we tag Cam Robinson. Protecting Trevor is key, and they may feel that need that insurance with Cam in the lineup.

If we let Cam walk, and signed or traded for a RT, we'd still need to find another player with experience as a LT, since we'd need a Swing Tackle as well. Will Richardson is an UFA and he did not play well enough to justify bringing him back.

If I were running the show we would tag Cam and move to RT, sign Noteboom to be the swing tackle, and draft Max Mitchell at 65 or 70. Max and Noteboom battle to be our future RT next year. The loser can play guard since they both have experience inside too.

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If we let Cam walk, and signed or traded for a RT, we'd still need to find another player with experience as a LT, since we'd need a Swing Tackle as well. Will Richardson is an UFA and he did not play well enough to justify bringing him back.

If I were running the show we would tag Cam and move to RT, sign Noteboom to be the swing tackle, and draft Max Mitchell at 65 or 70. Max and Noteboom battle to be our future RT next year. The loser can play guard since they both have experience inside too.

I love the idea of signing Noteboom as a swing tackle. He would be a huge upgrade over Richardson and with him I'd personally feel much more confident if one of our starting OT's got injured, that there wouldn't be a significant downgrade. 

As for Mitchell, I was big on drafting him early on, but he absolutely got obliterated in the Senior Bowl. He and Braxton Jones stuck out like sore thumbs. They were the worst OT's in that game. I wouldn't touch Mitchell until round 6. He has a lot of work to do. I was very disappointed to see him perform so poorly. 

The OT I like a lot is Cordell Volson of North Dakota State. He is one of the best pulling O-Linemen I've seen in a long while. He showed excellent technique, foot work and strength at the point of attack. I could see him coming in and competing for the RT position immediately. I saw him play in the FCS playoffs and he really caught my eye and I saw him again in the Shrine Bowl and he was just destroying anything in front of him.

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Evan Neal at number 1 please.

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Evan Neal at number 1 please.

That would be the worst possible move. You take the BAP.

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Evan Neal at number 1 please.

That would be the worst possible move. You take the BAP.

I think people are used to a Myles Garrett type player coming in for pick 1. I THINK. I say that because Neal isn't the top Bap but the top DEs etc are all close like 1a, 1b. We've needed Oline help for years so this is ppl wanting need over bap in fear we don't address the position with a capable player/starter at all. I want a DE but i understand ppls fear. I've been screaming Oline and TE since we had Mercedes smh

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Season Tix, Section 409

2023 and still counting.....SB will finally be ours soon enough.
TLaw aka 'the prince that was promised' supporter.

Since Baalke apparently said they're confident of finding Edge players in the 2nd and later rounds I'd think they're leaning Evan Neal right now.

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Since Baalke apparently said they're confident of finding Edge players in the 2nd and later rounds I'd think they're leaning Evan Neal right now.

Now that I know Khan lied about hiring an EVP and the draft will be a "one man show" ran by Baalke, I'm almost positive we're gonna reach for an OT in round 1 who ends up being the next Luke Joeckel. That would be the dumbest decision they could possibly make, because this is the weakest OT class in years. I truly hope we are able to trade out of the 1st pick.

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