Since Baalke apparently said they're confident of finding Edge players in the 2nd and later rounds I'd think they're leaning Evan Neal right now.

Smoke screens duh

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Since Baalke apparently said they're confident of finding Edge players in the 2nd and later rounds I'd think they're leaning Evan Neal right now.

Now that I know Khan lied about hiring an EVP and the draft will be a "one man show" ran by Baalke, I'm almost positive we're gonna reach for an OT in round 1 who ends up being the next Luke Joeckel. That would be the dumbest decision they could possibly make, because this is the weakest OT class in years. I truly hope we are able to trade out of the 1st pick.

It may come down to which position depth wise you feel better about waiting for in this draft. From a lot of reports, this Edge class is deep. If this OT class is really that weak, can you afford waiting until pick #33, #65, or #70 to take an OT in an awful class?

With that said, I'm still on board for Thibs or Hutch #1 (would take a trade out as well). No need to make this too difficult. What happens in Free Agency in a few weeks will obviously give us a better look at how things may go.

Tag Cam, keep Linder for his final year. Sign at least 1 Guard and/or OT and draft another.

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Now that I know Khan lied about hiring an EVP and the draft will be a "one man show" ran by Baalke, I'm almost positive we're gonna reach for an OT in round 1 who ends up being the next Luke Joeckel. That would be the dumbest decision they could possibly make, because this is the weakest OT class in years. I truly hope we are able to trade out of the 1st pick.

It may come down to which position depth wise you feel better about waiting for in this draft. From a lot of reports, this Edge class is deep. If this OT class is really that weak, can you afford waiting until pick #33, #65, or #70 to take an OT in an awful class?

With that said, I'm still on board for Thibs or Hutch #1 (would take a trade out as well). No need to make this too difficult. What happens in Free Agency in a few weeks will obviously give us a better look at how things may go.

Tag Cam, keep Linder for his final year. Sign at least 1 Guard and/or OT and draft another.

Yes you can, because the OT's you find in the 3rd and 4th are gonna be just as good as the ones taken in round 1. The OT's in round 1, would be late 1st or early 2nd rounders in most other years. The class is just awful. The only OT I'd even consider in round 1 is Trevor Penning and he's a bit raw.

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Since Baalke apparently said they're confident of finding Edge players in the 2nd and later rounds I'd think they're leaning Evan Neal right now.

Smoke screens duh

Baalkes been dabbling in reverse psychology

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Since Baalke apparently said they're confident of finding Edge players in the 2nd and later rounds I'd think they're leaning Evan Neal right now.

Now that I know Khan lied about hiring an EVP and the draft will be a "one man show" ran by Baalke, I'm almost positive we're gonna reach for an OT in round 1 who ends up being the next Luke Joeckel. That would be the dumbest decision they could possibly make, because this is the weakest OT class in years. I truly hope we are able to trade out of the 1st pick.

ye of little faith. The dumbest decision we could make would be trading R1P1 for an injured punter or the rights to Josh Gordon.

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It may come down to which position depth wise you feel better about waiting for in this draft. From a lot of reports, this Edge class is deep. If this OT class is really that weak, can you afford waiting until pick #33, #65, or #70 to take an OT in an awful class?

With that said, I'm still on board for Thibs or Hutch #1 (would take a trade out as well). No need to make this too difficult. What happens in Free Agency in a few weeks will obviously give us a better look at how things may go.

Tag Cam, keep Linder for his final year. Sign at least 1 Guard and/or OT and draft another.

Yes you can, because the OT's you find in the 3rd and 4th are gonna be just as good as the ones taken in round 1. The OT's in round 1, would be late 1st or early 2nd rounders in most other years. The class is just awful. The only OT I'd even consider in round 1 is Trevor Penning and he's a bit raw.

This is hyperbole and you know it. While I'm not a fan of resurrecting threads or historical posts, this one's gonna hang over your head for years.

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Yes you can, because the OT's you find in the 3rd and 4th are gonna be just as good as the ones taken in round 1. The OT's in round 1, would be late 1st or early 2nd rounders in most other years. The class is just awful. The only OT I'd even consider in round 1 is Trevor Penning and he's a bit raw.

This is hyperbole and you know it. While I'm not a fan of resurrecting threads or historical posts, this one's gonna hang over your head for years.

No, it's not. My top two OT's in this draft are Trevor Penning and Cordell Volson. They are the only OT's I would put in my top 100 overall players. While Penning will probably go in the mid to lower half of round 1, Volson will likely go in the 3rd to 5th round range. This is just not a very good OT class as a whole.

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Since Baalke apparently said they're confident of finding Edge players in the 2nd and later rounds I'd think they're leaning Evan Neal right now.

GM's often like to do misdirection before the draft.  If they like a player or a position, it often means that they are actually doing the opposite in the actual draft.

I'm split on what the Jaguars will do.  I would point out that Baalke drafted Walker Little.  I'm guessing he's a believer in him and wouldn't want to give up on him after one year.  Baalke's history in San Francisco also included drafting defense in the first round in 5 out his 6 years.  (In fairness, he drafted two offensive players last year, but Trevor was a no brainer and Meyer likely influenced ETN.)

On the other hand, Pederson has an offensive background, so he may be inclined to want offense.  It also just feels like the "Jaguars thing to do", so I'm unsure which way they'll go. 

If it was up to me, I would go edge.

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I know about misdirection but we're number one. Obviously we won't commit to a particular player openly before the draft but still...

I think it'll be clearer after free agency. I don't like mock drafts in general and this early in particular. We don't know where the biggest holes are going into the draft.

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Since Baalke apparently said they're confident of finding Edge players in the 2nd and later rounds I'd think they're leaning Evan Neal right now.

GM's often like to do misdirection before the draft.  If they like a player or a position, it often means that they are actually doing the opposite in the actual draft.

I'm split on what the Jaguars will do.  I would point out that Baalke drafted Walker Little.  I'm guessing he's a believer in him and wouldn't want to give up on him after one year.  Baalke's history in San Francisco also included drafting defense in the first round in 5 out his 6 years.  (In fairness, he drafted two offensive players last year, but Trevor was a no brainer and Meyer likely influenced ETN.)

On the other hand, Pederson has an offensive background, so he may be inclined to want offense.  It also just feels like the "Jaguars thing to do", so I'm unsure which way they'll go. 

If it was up to me, I would go edge.

Welp...I don't know under which category this falls (smoke, speculation or factual), but they want to re-sign Cam Robinson.

https://walterfootball.com/nflhotpress/a...m-Robinson

If this is true, and the Jaguars have all of this cap room available, it should happen, unless Cam Robinson simply wants out.

But as everyone surmises, it'll also tip the Jaguars hand a bit.

If they are successful in retaining Cam, it makes a Neal or Ekwonu pick less likely.  The choice becomes either edge rusher or trade back.

If Cam leaves, naturally, Neal or Ekwonuu becomes far more likely.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

GM's often like to do misdirection before the draft.  If they like a player or a position, it often means that they are actually doing the opposite in the actual draft.

I'm split on what the Jaguars will do.  I would point out that Baalke drafted Walker Little.  I'm guessing he's a believer in him and wouldn't want to give up on him after one year.  Baalke's history in San Francisco also included drafting defense in the first round in 5 out his 6 years.  (In fairness, he drafted two offensive players last year, but Trevor was a no brainer and Meyer likely influenced ETN.)

On the other hand, Pederson has an offensive background, so he may be inclined to want offense.  It also just feels like the "Jaguars thing to do", so I'm unsure which way they'll go. 

If it was up to me, I would go edge.

Welp...I don't know under which category this falls (smoke, speculation or factual), but they want to re-sign Cam Robinson.

https://walterfootball.com/nflhotpress/a...m-Robinson

If this is true, and the Jaguars have all of this cap room available, it should happen, unless Cam Robinson simply wants out.

But as everyone surmises, it'll also tip the Jaguars hand a bit.

If they are successful in retaining Cam, it makes a Neal or Ekwonu pick less likely.  The choice becomes either edge rusher or trade back.

If Cam leaves, naturally, Neal or Ekwonuu becomes far more likely.

See I'm fine if this is the direction they want to go. But if this is our direction, let's approach it as an attempt to get a longer deal inked instead of overpaying on a rental. If you want him, show it.

If they tag him and that's all, I don't say with much confidence that it changes our darft plans. It gives us wiggle room for sure, but if they see Neal, Ikem, or anyone else as a star tackle in the making, take him and keep building.

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Welp...I don't know under which category this falls (smoke, speculation or factual), but they want to re-sign Cam Robinson.

https://walterfootball.com/nflhotpress/a...m-Robinson

If this is true, and the Jaguars have all of this cap room available, it should happen, unless Cam Robinson simply wants out.

But as everyone surmises, it'll also tip the Jaguars hand a bit.

If they are successful in retaining Cam, it makes a Neal or Ekwonu pick less likely.  The choice becomes either edge rusher or trade back.

If Cam leaves, naturally, Neal or Ekwonuu becomes far more likely.

See I'm fine if this is the direction they want to go. But if this is our direction, let's approach it as an attempt to get a longer deal inked instead of overpaying on a rental. If you want him, show it.

If they tag him and that's all, I don't say with much confidence that it changes our darft plans. It gives us wiggle room for sure, but if they see Neal, Ikem, or anyone else as a star tackle in the making, take him and keep building.

This is the maddening thing about our prolonged losing.

It seems like no matter what direction we go with Cam, it's the wrong one.

Last year, we tagged him.  Observers were shocked.

It would seem now that to sign him to a longer term deal, the money would have to be comparable.  I can't see too many people applauding that, even if the money somehow comes in at lower than the franchise tag rate for this year.

If we simply tagged him again, we're putting a band aid on the position,and if we fail to sign him at all, all we do is perpetuate the "crime" of being unable to retain key contributors at key positions who are actually productive, and locking us into a position early in the draft, as opposed to being free to taking the BAP.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Welp...I don't know under which category this falls (smoke, speculation or factual), but they want to re-sign Cam Robinson.

https://walterfootball.com/nflhotpress/a...m-Robinson

If this is true, and the Jaguars have all of this cap room available, it should happen, unless Cam Robinson simply wants out.

But as everyone surmises, it'll also tip the Jaguars hand a bit.

If they are successful in retaining Cam, it makes a Neal or Ekwonu pick less likely.  The choice becomes either edge rusher or trade back.

If Cam leaves, naturally, Neal or Ekwonuu becomes far more likely.

See I'm fine if this is the direction they want to go. But if this is our direction, let's approach it as an attempt to get a longer deal inked instead of overpaying on a rental. If you want him, show it.

If they tag him and that's all, I don't say with much confidence that it changes our darft plans. It gives us wiggle room for sure, but if they see Neal, Ikem, or anyone else as a star tackle in the making, take him and keep building.

Why? I want Cam this year, because there is no better option, but I want him this year only. I don't care what it cost, it would only be a one year deal and we have tons of cap money. It's not like we can't afford it. It's not brain surgery here. Fix as many long term issues as we can, but some problems are gonna have to get a band-aid for now (Cam Robinson,) because the alternative is worse. Not every major problem is gonna get a long term fix this offseason.

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See I'm fine if this is the direction they want to go. But if this is our direction, let's approach it as an attempt to get a longer deal inked instead of overpaying on a rental. If you want him, show it.

If they tag him and that's all, I don't say with much confidence that it changes our darft plans. It gives us wiggle room for sure, but if they see Neal, Ikem, or anyone else as a star tackle in the making, take him and keep building.

This is the maddening thing about our prolonged losing.

It seems like no matter what direction we go with Cam, it's the wrong one.

Last year, we tagged him.  Observers were shocked.

It would seem now that to sign him to a longer term deal, the money would have to be comparable.  I can't see too many people applauding that, even if the money somehow comes in at lower than the franchise tag rate for this year.

If we simply tagged him again, we're putting a band aid on the position,and if we fail to sign him at all, all we do is perpetuate the "crime" of being unable to retain key contributors at key positions who are actually productive, and locking us into a position early in the draft, as opposed to being free to taking the BAP.

Is that such a bad thing though? Considering how many major needs this team has, some issues are not gonna get a long term fix this offseason. Some areas are gonna have to get band-aids. Why not OT? If we tag Cam, at least we will have 2 competent, yet unspectacular starting OT's (Robinson and Little.) Just getting rid of Jawaan Taylor is an improvement. From there we can focus on truly upgrading the O-Line via the interior.

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I am happy to tag him and overpay for one year. I would be not thrilled but not too upset with a long term deal at a mid level price and an agreement to switch to RT.

I think he would only sign long term before testing FA if we give him far more than he's worth though.

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I am happy to tag him and overpay for one year. I would be not thrilled but not too upset with a long term deal at a mid level price and an agreement to switch to RT.

I think he would only sign long term before testing FA if we give him far more than he's worth though.

If we signed him long term, he would have to agree to move to RT.

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If he's signing long term then we will trade Walker Little.

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If he's signing long term then we will trade Walker Little.

Huh? Why????

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If he's signing long term then we will trade Walker Little.

Umm, no

That's not how it works

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If he's signing long term then we will trade Walker Little.

Huh? Why????

I'll believe they will switch either Robinson or Little to RT when I see it. Signing Robinson then means the coaches don't trust Little.

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Huh? Why????

I'll believe they will switch either Robinson or Little to RT when I see it. Signing Robinson then means the coaches don't trust Little.

No, it doesn't. It just means we'd have 2 competent OT's for the 2022 season. Nothing more. You're reading way too much into this.

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