Wait. You would be ok walking into next season with Marvin, Shenault, Agnew and Treadwell? Even if they add a rookie in round 2, that’s atrocious.

Before over paying crazy?   yes.  We also have 2 3rds.  We could take a WR in the 3rd as well.  We have a lot of other picks after that also.  Not to mention we could still trade for a WR

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Marvin is already better than Gallup and Gage remember.

Yes he is but we can add opposite of MJ in the draft.

Do you trust Baalke to find a competent WR in the draft?

I don't.

https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/duval-ins...-make-move

Regardless of what the Jaguars do at wide receiver next week, it is clear the Jaguars will have to use some of their 12 draft picks on a wide reciever, including at least one of their four top-70 picks. The issue, however, is that Baalke's history of drafting at the position is disastrous at worst and nearly non-existent at best.

In seven drafts as a general manager, Baalke has drafted seven receivers. He has used one 1st rounder, three 4th rounders, and three 6th rounders. Those players combined for 100 catches, 1,206 yards and four touchdowns. Three never caught a pass for the team that drafted them.

• 2011: Ronald Johnson (6th round, No. 182). No stats.
  

• 2012: A.J. Jenkins (1st round, No. 30). No stats with SF.
  

• 2013: Quinton Patton (4th round, No. 128: 73 catches for 880 yards and 1 TD.
  

• 2014: Bruce Ellington (4th round, No. 106): 19 catches for 215 yards and 2 TDs in SF.
  

• 2015: DeAndre Smelter (4th Round, No. 132). 1 catch for 23 yards and 1 TD.
  

• 2016: Aaron Burbridge (6th round, No. 213). 7 catches for 88 yards.
  

• 2021: Jalen Camp (6th round, No. 209 overall). Never played a game for the Jaguars. Cut after preseason.
  

Simply put, Baalke's track record is downright terrifying considering the Jaguars' need at the position. The next productive receiver he drafts will be the very first of his career, which says something considering how many drafts he has overseen. This is the general manager the Jaguars have entrusted Trevor Lawrence's future with, however, so they will have to hope he is due to finally land a rookie receiver.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Chark has the ability. He is worth paying 15 million. Yes it’s a gamble, but you can’t win if you don’t play the game. We need talent.

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Before over paying crazy?   yes.  We also have 2 3rds.  We could take a WR in the 3rd as well.  We have a lot of other picks after that also.  Not to mention we could still trade for a WR

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Yes he is but we can add opposite of MJ in the draft.

Do you trust Baalke to find a competent WR in the draft?

I don't.

I trust Doug.  I think one of the reasons he came here is because he will have more power on the roster

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Chark has the ability. He is worth paying 15 million. Yes it’s a gamble, but you can’t win if you don’t play the game. We need talent.

We should of tagged him instead of Cam and traded for Collins

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Wait. You would be ok walking into next season with Marvin, Shenault, Agnew and Treadwell? Even if they add a rookie in round 2, that’s atrocious.

Before over paying crazy?   yes.  We also have 2 3rds.  We could take a WR in the 3rd as well.  We have a lot of other picks after that also.  Not to mention we could still trade for a WR

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Marvin is already better than Gallup and Gage remember.

Yes he is but we can add opposite of MJ in the draft.

If they walk into next season with the same WR core but adding 2 rookies, that’s a failure. Plain and simple.

And you’re relying on the GM who can’t draft a WR correctly to save his life. Blind homerism.

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We are going to have to over pay for a reciever if we want one of the guys left that could make some kind of impact . I’m not opposed to kicking the tires on Marquez Valdez Scantling or seeing if Mn is willing to part with Theilen for a late pick and hope you can get a couple years out of him(Vikings are still 18 mil over the cap).

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Before over paying crazy?   yes.  We also have 2 3rds.  We could take a WR in the 3rd as well.  We have a lot of other picks after that also.  Not to mention we could still trade for a WR

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Yes he is but we can add opposite of MJ in the draft.

If they walk into next season with the same WR core but adding 2 rookies, that’s a failure. Plain and simple.

And you’re relying on the GM who can’t draft a WR correctly to save his life. Blind homerism.

Not if they can beef up the oline and add Ertz I don't think it will be.  WR is the deepest position group in the draft and the position that rookies make an impact the most along with RB

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Do you trust Baalke to find a competent WR in the draft?

I don't.

I trust Doug.  I think one of the reasons he came here is because he will have more power on the roster

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Chark has the ability. He is worth paying 15 million. Yes it’s a gamble, but you can’t win if you don’t play the game. We need talent.

We should of tagged him instead of Cam and traded for Collins

Well I hope you are right and Pederson calls the shots when it comes to drafting a WR, because I damn sure don't trust Baalke.  He'll end up picking names randomly out of old phone books.

For that matter, I'm fearful he won't get us La'el Collins, either.

As much as ewe needed a WR for Trevor, I could see not wanting to accept the entire contract for Cooper.

If the numbers I saw for Collins are right, there is zero reason not to make the deal for him.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Wait. You would be ok walking into next season with Marvin, Shenault, Agnew and Treadwell? Even if they add a rookie in round 2, that’s atrocious.

Before over paying crazy?   yes.  We also have 2 3rds.  We could take a WR in the 3rd as well.  We have a lot of other picks after that also.  Not to mention we could still trade for a WR

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Marvin is already better than Gallup and Gage remember.

Yes he is but we can add opposite of MJ in the draft.

Opposite Marvin? I want him benched. He can't catch.

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Do you trust Baalke to find a competent WR in the draft?

I don't.

I trust Doug.  I think one of the reasons he came here is because he will have more power on the roster

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Chark has the ability. He is worth paying 15 million. Yes it’s a gamble, but you can’t win if you don’t play the game. We need talent.

We should of tagged him instead of Cam and traded for Collins

Doug isn't the GM. He won't be picking players. Baalke has final say.

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Before over paying crazy?   yes.  We also have 2 3rds.  We could take a WR in the 3rd as well.  We have a lot of other picks after that also.  Not to mention we could still trade for a WR

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Yes he is but we can add opposite of MJ in the draft.

If they walk into next season with the same WR core but adding 2 rookies, that’s a failure. Plain and simple.

And you’re relying on the GM who can’t draft a WR correctly to save his life. Blind homerism.

You speak the truth!

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Before over paying crazy?   yes.  We also have 2 3rds.  We could take a WR in the 3rd as well.  We have a lot of other picks after that also.  Not to mention we could still trade for a WR

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Yes he is but we can add opposite of MJ in the draft.

Opposite Marvin? I want him benched. He can't catch.

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I trust Doug.  I think one of the reasons he came here is because he will have more power on the roster

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We should of tagged him instead of Cam and traded for Collins

Doug isn't the GM. He won't be picking players. Baalke has final say.

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If they walk into next season with the same WR core but adding 2 rookies, that’s a failure. Plain and simple.

And you’re relying on the GM who can’t draft a WR correctly to save his life. Blind homerism.

You speak the truth!

Baalke was the GM last year, you think he had final say over Urbz?  Hell no

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I trust Doug.  I think one of the reasons he came here is because he will have more power on the roster

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We should of tagged him instead of Cam and traded for Collins

Well I hope you are right and Pederson calls the shots when it comes to drafting a WR, because I damn sure don't trust Baalke.  He'll end up picking names randomly out of old phone books.

For that matter, I'm fearful he won't get us La'el Collins, either.

As much as ewe needed a WR for Trevor, I could see not wanting to accept the entire contract for Cooper.

If the numbers I saw for Collins are right, there is zero reason not to make the deal for him.

Agreed.

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Opposite Marvin? I want him benched. He can't catch.

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Doug isn't the GM. He won't be picking players. Baalke has final say.

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You speak the truth!

Baalke was the GM last year, you think he had final say over Urbz?  Hell no

No. Last year Khan said Meyer was in charge when he hired him. He did not say that about Doug Pederson. If Pederson was in charge of drafting, Khan would've stated so, like he said Meyer would be. These are two completely different circumstances.

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There is a huge difference between control freak Urban and "give me the players and I'll coach them" Pederson. Pederson has historically been among the most hands off coaches. Especially since Baalke is emboldened having survived the fan mutiny and come out of it stronger than ever.

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Well I hope you are right and Pederson calls the shots when it comes to drafting a WR, because I damn sure don't trust Baalke.  He'll end up picking names randomly out of old phone books.

For that matter, I'm fearful he won't get us La'el Collins, either.

As much as ewe needed a WR for Trevor, I could see not wanting to accept the entire contract for Cooper.

If the numbers I saw for Collins are right, there is zero reason not to make the deal for him.

Agreed.

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Baalke was the GM last year, you think he had final say over Urbz?  Hell no

No. Last year Khan said Meyer was in charge when he hired him. He did not say that about Doug Pederson. If Pederson was in charge of drafting, Khan would've stated so, like he said Meyer would be. These are two completely different circumstances.

I disagree, i think its similar to last year.  They asked Khan if Baalke was in charge and the final say and he said it was going to be a collective agreement that goes through him.  If Baalke had final say he Khan would of said yes.  Doug was also asked if Baalke has final say and he never said yes, he echoed Khan.  If Baalke had final say Doug would of said so when asked

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Do you trust Baalke to find a competent WR in the draft?

I don't.

I trust Doug.  I think one of the reasons he came here is because he will have more power on the roster

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Chark has the ability. He is worth paying 15 million. Yes it’s a gamble, but you can’t win if you don’t play the game. We need talent.

We should of tagged him instead of Cam and traded for Collins

Draft one and sign chark

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Do you trust Baalke to find a competent WR in the draft?

I don't.

I trust Doug.  I think one of the reasons he came here is because he will have more power on the roster

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Chark has the ability. He is worth paying 15 million. Yes it’s a gamble, but you can’t win if you don’t play the game. We need talent.

We should of tagged him instead of Cam and traded for Collins

Draft one and sign chark

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Do you trust Baalke to find a competent WR in the draft?

I don't.

I trust Doug.  I think one of the reasons he came here is because he will have more power on the roster

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Chark has the ability. He is worth paying 15 million. Yes it’s a gamble, but you can’t win if you don’t play the game. We need talent.

We should of tagged him instead of Cam and traded for Collins

Draft one and sign chark


Sorry no idea why it posted that three times

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Marvin "I fall soon as the ball touch me" Jones is no longer a viable 1-3 WR. Jags need target a stud and throw a bag at them. Money and picks

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Trading pick 33 for a viable number 1 would be well worth it.

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Why didnt we put the transition tag on Chark? 

Was Cam tagged as exclusive or non exclusive franchise tag?

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Agreed.

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No. Last year Khan said Meyer was in charge when he hired him. He did not say that about Doug Pederson. If Pederson was in charge of drafting, Khan would've stated so, like he said Meyer would be. These are two completely different circumstances.

I disagree, i think its similar to last year.  They asked Khan if Baalke was in charge and the final say and he said it was going to be a collective agreement that goes through him.  If Baalke had final say he Khan would of said yes.  Doug was also asked if Baalke has final say and he never said yes, he echoed Khan.  If Baalke had final say Doug would of said so when asked

Based on what? A collective agreement between Baalke, Pederson and the owner who has defied virtually everyone to keep Baalke in the position he is at. Now think about it. Who do you think Khan is gonna side with and be realistic? Baalke has a long history of butting heads with his head coaches and I don't see how this ends any differently. He'll always have Khan backing him up or else he would have already been gone.

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Why didnt we put the transition tag on Chark? 

Was Cam tagged as exclusive or non exclusive franchise tag?

You can only use one tag for one player, per season. We used the franchise tag on Cam, so we can't use any tag on any other player.

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Pederson and Baalke are working in unison as was stated from the get-go. You ladies having a hissy fit and think you know better should get back to your knitting.

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Pederson and Baalke are working in unison as was stated from the get-go. You ladies having a hissy fit and think you know better should get back to your knitting.

I'm putting my money on "dissonant harmony" over "unison"

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Before over paying crazy?   yes.  We also have 2 3rds.  We could take a WR in the 3rd as well.  We have a lot of other picks after that also.  Not to mention we could still trade for a WR

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Yes he is but we can add opposite of MJ in the draft.

Opposite Marvin? I want him benched. He can't catch.

Do you even watch the Jaguars? Marvin Jones was one of the only people on our team that could catch a ball last year lmfao.

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