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Jags FA talk and Signings
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(03-15-2022, 09:52 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:(03-15-2022, 09:48 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: This is a horrible take. I don’t give a [BLEEP] what a player did. I care about what they’re going to do You're guessing too. The difference is that you don't seem to realise it, and you're basing your guess solely on past performance, which is often a terrible predictor. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(03-15-2022, 12:01 PM)iapetus Wrote:(03-15-2022, 09:52 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Are you Nostradamus? Can you see the future? If not, you're just guessing. Not a good way to build a team. Exactly, you sign a guy on what you think they can do not what they've done.
LOL it's a matter of semantics, isn't it? You derive expectations for what a player, can do, at least partially, based on historical performance. Sometimes there are mitigating factors that influence historical performance, like playing on a team whose scheme doesn't fit your strengths, but what they've done is a strong indicator of what they can do in the future.
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03-15-2022, 12:31 PM
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(03-15-2022, 12:01 PM)iapetus Wrote:(03-15-2022, 09:52 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Are you Nostradamus? Can you see the future? If not, you're just guessing. Not a good way to build a team. It is guessing, but at least I have something to base my guess on. It isn't 100% by any means, but it's more accurate than going on potential. Potential led us to drafting Matt Jones.
03-15-2022, 12:34 PM
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(03-15-2022, 12:31 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:(03-15-2022, 12:01 PM)iapetus Wrote: You're guessing too. The difference is that you don't seem to realise it, and you're basing your guess solely on past performance, which is often a terrible predictor. Fair enough! When you think we overpaid for players? Remember the browns gave Taven 5 million We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(03-15-2022, 12:34 PM)Newton Wrote:Just playing devils advocate because it always works both ways but we only signed Mccardel based on potential(03-15-2022, 12:31 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: It is guessing, but at least I have something to base my guess on. It isn't 100% by any means, but it's more accurate than going on potential. Potential led us to drafting Matt Jones.
(03-15-2022, 01:09 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: https://twitter.com/KHard5one/status/150..._z6RE7W26A Agreed. I really like this signing. (03-15-2022, 10:57 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:(03-15-2022, 10:54 AM)dennisp3 Wrote: Thats not what was the rumor about not wanting to play for Jax .Regardless of his contract he could have made it known to Dallas that he would sit out instead of playing for the Jaguars and Dallas in cap hell need to trade so they were willing to take less for him. Also teams sometimes care about what the player wants. They can still ask his preference and do it even with a no trade clause. They don't have to just treat them like assets, Daryl Morey. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(03-15-2022, 02:31 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:(03-15-2022, 10:57 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: That's not how trades work. Rumors are just that, rumors that people make up. I can't picture Jones turning down a better offer, just because Cooper didn't want to go to that team. I find that extremely unlikely.
(03-15-2022, 02:52 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:(03-15-2022, 02:31 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: Also teams sometimes care about what the player wants. They can still ask his preference and do it even with a no trade clause. It isn't like the offer was that much better.
03-15-2022, 03:16 PM
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Jones was trying to get rid of that contract. The browns were the only team to want to pay for the whole kit and kaboodle. But him not wanting to come to the Jags would not surprise me either. I'm glad we didn't pay full price for someone else's mistake. I'd rather pay for my own so they swung for the fences with Kirk. Kid pans out watch how many who running their mouth now as if they know will be shuffling to try and twist themselves in a pretzel to say they did not say anything negative about the deal.
(03-15-2022, 02:52 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:(03-15-2022, 02:31 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: Also teams sometimes care about what the player wants. They can still ask his preference and do it even with a no trade clause. So you wish the Jags had offered say a 3rd and 6th instead of the rumored 4th and 6th? We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(03-15-2022, 03:16 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:(03-15-2022, 02:52 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I can't picture Jones turning down a better offer, just because Cooper didn't want to go to that team. I find that extremely unlikely. If it meant getting a #1 receiver like Cooper over a slot guy like Kirk, Yes! Absolutely. Our receiving corps still sucks as it stands now.
No need to watch/listen this. but I just found the title hilarious given how the last 4 years have played out:
So long Taven, we won't miss you. You too Trash Cann.
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