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TheO-LineMatters · 03-17-2022, 04:43 PM

(03-17-2022, 04:38 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(03-17-2022, 01:23 PM)D6 Wrote: According to ESPN Analytics, Brandon Scherff had the Highest Run Block Win Rate for an NFL Guard in the 2021 season ( 77 % win rate):

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/3217...e-rankings

Look who's the highest as a C

Linder was/is a very good player when he is healthy. The problem is that he is NEVER healthy. If he wasn't always injured, I would sign him to an extension, but that's not the case.

D6 · 03-17-2022, 05:05 PM

(03-17-2022, 04:41 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(03-17-2022, 01:23 PM)D6 Wrote: According to ESPN Analytics, Brandon Scherff had the Highest Run Block Win Rate for an NFL Guard in the 2021 season ( 77 % win rate):

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/3217...e-rankings

Norwell was 7th

Linder was highest win rate vs Run at Center and 6th best vs the pass rush.

In the last few minutes, the Commanders signed Andrew Norwell. 'Trading Places'.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-signings/

Even factoring the high number of missed games, a solid case can be made that Brandon Lindor was the best draft selection by former Jaguars GM Dave Caldwell. Especially, considering Lindor was a 3rd Round Pick. On a percentage basis, not many NFL players from the 2014 Draft remain starters with the team they were drafted with.

**NYC4jags** · 03-17-2022, 05:13 PM

(03-17-2022, 05:05 PM)D6 Wrote:
(03-17-2022, 04:41 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Norwell was 7th

Linder was highest win rate vs Run at Center and 6th best vs the pass rush.

In the last few minutes, the Commanders signed Andrew Norwell. 'Trading Places'.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-signings/

Even factoring the high number of missed games, a solid case can be made that Brandon Lindor was the best draft selection by former Jaguars GM Dave Caldwell. Especially, considering Lindor was a 3rd Round Pick. On a percentage basis, not many NFL players from the 2014 Draft remain starters with the team they were drafted with.

Crazy times.

And yes, Linder was a great pick by Caldwell. I wish he'd done a number of things differently along the o-line while he was here, but he got that one right.

TheO-LineMatters · 03-17-2022, 05:17 PM

(03-17-2022, 05:05 PM)D6 Wrote:
(03-17-2022, 04:41 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Norwell was 7th

Linder was highest win rate vs Run at Center and 6th best vs the pass rush.

In the last few minutes, the Commanders signed Andrew Norwell. 'Trading Places'.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-signings/

Even factoring the high number of missed games, a solid case can be made that Brandon Lindor was the best draft selection by former Jaguars GM Dave Caldwell. Especially, considering Lindor was a 3rd Round Pick. On a percentage basis, not many NFL players from the 2014 Draft remain starters with the team they were drafted with.

That's a fair argument.

Upper · 03-17-2022, 07:11 PM

It was Linder or Yannick. Maaaaybe Arob but everyone loved him he was a pretty obvious choice when we took him. Very few people loved or even knew Linder or Yannick when we took them (I know Yannick had a couple lovers).

flgatorsandjags · 03-17-2022, 07:24 PM

Telvin Smith was a great pick as well. If Poz was still playing he would probably still be on the team. Prime Telvin was one of my favorite players players ever to watch

Firesky · 03-17-2022, 07:37 PM

(03-17-2022, 07:11 PM)Upper Wrote: It was Linder or Yannick. Maaaaybe Arob but everyone loved him he was a pretty obvious choice when we took him. Very few people loved or even knew Linder or Yannick when we took them (I know Yannick had a couple lovers).

This is a bit of revisionist history. Allen Robinson wasn't really discussed on the board here much predraft outside of a few Penn State fans, Marqise Lee was the pick we were lauding at the time as the Biletnikoff winner. We traded up for Allen Robinson so it's not like he fell into our laps yk.

I agree on Yannick, our coaching staff was drooling over him and they sent practically the whole front office to his proday. I still believe Yannick was Caldwells best pick all things considered.

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1) Draft Trevor Lawrence!
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3) Keep 91% of the roster healthy!
4) ???
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Upper · 03-17-2022, 11:03 PM

(03-17-2022, 07:37 PM)Firesky Wrote:
(03-17-2022, 07:11 PM)Upper Wrote: It was Linder or Yannick. Maaaaybe Arob but everyone loved him he was a pretty obvious choice when we took him. Very few people loved or even knew Linder or Yannick when we took them (I know Yannick had a couple lovers).

This is a bit of revisionist history. Allen Robinson wasn't really discussed on the board here much predraft outside of a few Penn State fans, Marqise Lee was the pick we were lauding at the time as the Biletnikoff winner. We traded up for Allen Robinson so it's not like he fell into our laps yk.

I agree on Yannick, our coaching staff was drooling over him and they sent practically the whole front office to his proday. I still believe Yannick was Caldwells best pick all things considered.

Arob was a giant draft darling. I don't remember how big he was on this board, but man everyone loved him on draft twitter. Marqise was a very bad pick even without hindsight. Very slight, not nearly as athletic as he should be for the size, and a long injury history that of course continued when he started getting hit by bigger/stronger/faster NFL defenders.

flgatorsandjags · 03-18-2022, 06:26 AM

(03-17-2022, 07:37 PM)Firesky Wrote:
(03-17-2022, 07:11 PM)Upper Wrote: It was Linder or Yannick. Maaaaybe Arob but everyone loved him he was a pretty obvious choice when we took him. Very few people loved or even knew Linder or Yannick when we took them (I know Yannick had a couple lovers).

This is a bit of revisionist history. Allen Robinson wasn't really discussed on the board here much predraft outside of a few Penn State fans, Marqise Lee was the pick we were lauding at the time as the Biletnikoff winner. We traded up for Allen Robinson so it's not like he fell into our laps yk.

I agree on Yannick, our coaching staff was drooling over him and they sent practically the whole front office to his proday. I still believe Yannick was Caldwells best pick all things considered.

Yup, pretty much the whole board wanted Lee. One of the few times the whole board went crazy happy when he was selected, when we got Jack in the 2nd was another. If he could of stayed healthy his career could of went much different

Mikey · 03-18-2022, 08:58 AM

(03-17-2022, 11:03 PM)Upper Wrote:
(03-17-2022, 07:37 PM)Firesky Wrote: This is a bit of revisionist history. Allen Robinson wasn't really discussed on the board here much predraft outside of a few Penn State fans, Marqise Lee was the pick we were lauding at the time as the Biletnikoff winner. We traded up for Allen Robinson so it's not like he fell into our laps yk.

I agree on Yannick, our coaching staff was drooling over him and they sent practically the whole front office to his proday. I still believe Yannick was Caldwells best pick all things considered.

Arob was a giant draft darling. I don't remember how big he was on this board, but man everyone loved him on draft twitter. Marqise was a very bad pick even without hindsight. Very slight, not nearly as athletic as he should be for the size, and a long injury history that of course continued when he started getting hit by bigger/stronger/faster NFL defenders.

Yeah, IIRC Lee twisted or hurt his ankle somehow late in USC's season, and I instantly noped off him. lower leg injuries are a dealbreaker and tend to recur.

I don't remember the board being ga-ga over him, but I distinctly remember being shocked that I hadn't heard much of anything about ARob leading up to the darft, he tended to linger in that mid-second range that doesn't get a lot of ink in the mock darft summations.

flgatorsandjags · 09-26-2022, 07:40 AM

This is one addition I haven't seen anyone mention, he's been playing great. I can't think of one play where he has been blown up and I also think he's a part of why Taylor is having a career year. Going from Cann all these years to Scherff is like night and day.

Dockerill91 · 09-26-2022, 08:27 AM

(09-26-2022, 07:40 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: This is one addition I haven't seen anyone mention, he's been playing great. I can't think of one play where he has been blown up and I also think he's a part of why Taylor is having a career year. Going from Cann all these years to Scherff is like night and day.

I saw this thread, and thought to myself ‘meh he’s not been as good as I thought he would be as I haven’t seen him do too much’

Then I remembered, not seeing an Olinemen too much on highlight reels is usually a good thing, so I’m back in to liking him!

Newton · 09-26-2022, 08:28 AM

Good point. Has to be helping the ends to have him inside

homebiscuit · 09-26-2022, 08:31 AM

Wasn’t it Scherff who came across the line to give the key block for JRob’s TD run?

JagSwag · 09-26-2022, 08:33 AM

(09-26-2022, 08:31 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: Wasn’t it Scherff who came across the line to give the key block for JRob’s TD run?

Yup

https://twitter.com/lauriefitzptrck/stat...NQth9R7NEw

flgatorsandjags · 09-26-2022, 08:43 AM

If Scherff didn't get around in time to seal that edge JRob would of likely been short of the 1st and turnover on downs. Great play by Scherff. I'm pretty confident in saying Cann wouldn't of never made that play. Scherff is very athletic for a guard

**flsprtsgod** · 09-26-2022, 10:07 AM

(09-26-2022, 08:43 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: If Scherff didn't get around in time to seal that edge JRob would of likely been short of the 1st and turnover on downs. Great play by Scherff. I'm pretty confident in saying Cann wouldn't of never made that play. Scherff is very athletic for a guard

Trash Cann would've tripped on the Center's foot and knocked over JRob for a loss on the play.

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