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Post Free Agency Mock Draft - First Run

#21

Cine would be an excellent choice at 33. As was already noted, Jenkins is likely to be gone after next season and Cine would be a great replacement. Selecting him would be similar to last draft when they took Tyson Campbell at that same spot. They knew Henderson was unlikely to be around for long so decided to be proactive despite there not being an immediate need at corner.

My only hesitancy about taking Cine is that there is likely to be a receiver who falls to 33 who would be impossible to pass on. The best solution, in my opinion, would be to trade for D.K. Metcalf (not my original idea), take the best pass rusher at 9 and then take Cine at 33. Trading for Metcalf is not without risks, but if his foot injuries are not considered a problem he'd be the best possible option at the X receiver spot. My mock would then be:

1(9): Jermaine Johnson/Travon Walker/George Karlaftis-

2(33): Lewis Cine

3(65) Jamaree Salyer/Tyler Smith

3(70): Troy Anderson

4(106) Woods/Dulcich/Likely (best T.E. available)


My guess is that Baalke/Pederson will use some of their extra picks to move back up into rounds 2 or 3. That way, if they really love a guy like Salyer they won't have to pray he makes it past round 2.
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#22

(03-21-2022, 11:37 AM)jaglou53 Wrote: Cine would be an excellent choice at 33. As was already noted, Jenkins is likely to be gone after next season and Cine would be a great replacement. Selecting him would be similar to last draft when they took Tyson Campbell at that same spot. They knew Henderson was unlikely to be around for long so decided to be proactive despite there not being an immediate need at corner.

My only hesitancy about taking Cine is that there is likely to be a receiver who falls to 33 who would be impossible to pass on. The best solution, in my opinion, would be to trade for D.K. Metcalf (not my original idea), take the best pass rusher at 9 and then take Cine at 33. Trading for Metcalf is not without risks, but if his foot injuries are not considered a problem he'd be the best possible option at the X receiver spot. My mock would then be:

1(9): Jermaine Johnson/Travon Walker/George Karlaftis-

2(33): Lewis Cine

3(65) Jamaree Salyer/Tyler Smith

3(70): Troy Anderson

4(106) Woods/Dulcich/Likely (best T.E. available)


My guess is that Baalke/Pederson will use some of their extra picks to move back up into rounds 2 or 3. That way, if they really love a guy like Salyer they won't have to pray he makes it past round 2.

I honestly cannot imagine a better scenario.
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#23

(03-21-2022, 02:09 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(03-21-2022, 11:37 AM)jaglou53 Wrote: Cine would be an excellent choice at 33. As was already noted, Jenkins is likely to be gone after next season and Cine would be a great replacement. Selecting him would be similar to last draft when they took Tyson Campbell at that same spot. They knew Henderson was unlikely to be around for long so decided to be proactive despite there not being an immediate need at corner.

My only hesitancy about taking Cine is that there is likely to be a receiver who falls to 33 who would be impossible to pass on. The best solution, in my opinion, would be to trade for D.K. Metcalf (not my original idea), take the best pass rusher at 9 and then take Cine at 33. Trading for Metcalf is not without risks, but if his foot injuries are not considered a problem he'd be the best possible option at the X receiver spot. My mock would then be:

1(9): Jermaine Johnson/Travon Walker/George Karlaftis-

2(33): Lewis Cine

3(65) Jamaree Salyer/Tyler Smith

3(70): Troy Anderson

4(106) Woods/Dulcich/Likely (best T.E. available)


My guess is that Baalke/Pederson will use some of their extra picks to move back up into rounds 2 or 3. That way, if they really love a guy like Salyer they won't have to pray he makes it past round 2.

I honestly cannot imagine a better scenario.

Glad we are on the same page on this one. Hopefully Baalke is, too!
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#24

I'm glad we're all on the same page with a completely fictional sub .1% proposal!

Now if we could only get on the same page about the realistic stuff...
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#25

Cine went to the Eagles at 19 in PFFs live mock this morning. Unfortunately I am seeing him in the 20s more often than not lately. While I am still extremely intruiged by doubling down and taking Mafe at 33 I do not see it as a realistic opsion so I'm probably pivoting back to a small reach for Pickens being the best option.
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#26

(03-21-2022, 04:14 PM)Upper Wrote: Cine went to the Eagles at 19 in PFFs live mock this morning. Unfortunately I am seeing him in the 20s more often than not lately. While I am still extremely intruiged by doubling down and taking Mafe at 33 I do not see it as a realistic opsion so I'm probably pivoting back to a small reach for Pickens being the best option.
Hutch and Pickens have been the 2 most popular picks for Jags in round 1 and 2.

Round 3 has been all over the place. LB in round 3 is kinda popular.
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#27

(03-21-2022, 06:41 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(03-21-2022, 04:14 PM)Upper Wrote: Cine went to the Eagles at 19 in PFFs live mock this morning. Unfortunately I am seeing him in the 20s more often than not lately. While I am still extremely intruiged by doubling down and taking Mafe at 33 I do not see it as a realistic opsion so I'm probably pivoting back to a small reach for Pickens being the best option.
Hutch and Pickens have been the 2 most popular picks for Jags in round 1 and 2.

Round 3 has been all over the place. LB in round 3 is kinda popular.

We gotta take a TE fairly early. TE's are very prominent in Pederson's offense and Engram is only here on a 1 yer deal and has been dealing with a lot of injuries. I'd be shocked if we went into day 3 of the draft without TE already being addressed.
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#28

(03-20-2022, 09:47 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Now that the free agency market has a solid week behind it. Time to start trying to get a feel for what the team might do next month during the draft. After the below additions:

Christian Kirk, Zay Jones  WR
Evan Engram  TE
Cam Robinson and Tyler Shatley retained at LT & C
Brandon Scherff G
Foley Fatukasi  DT
Foye Oluokun LB
Tre Herndon retained at CB
Darious Williams  CB

So, two receivers added, a LT and C retained with the addition of a top notch G. The bolstering of the interior of the defense at ILB and DT. A solid addition made at CB. This leaves the team in a number of unique positions to add quality players to raise the level of quality up on the depth while adding more key contributors at glaring positions of need. 

So, here's my first run at it (Using the PFF simulator with Drafttek's and NFL Draft Buzz's big board positional rankings and my own personal opinions).

RD1:1 Aidan Hutchinson DE  Michigan
RD2:33 Trey McBride  TE  Colorado State
RD3:60 - Jalen Tolbert - WR - South Alabama
RD3:70 - Jamaree Salyer - G - Georgia
RD4:106 - Luke Goedeke - T - Central Michigan 
RD5:157 - Sterling Weatherford - S - Miami (OH)
RD6:180 - Chigoziem Okonkwo - TE - Maryland
RD6:188 - Hassan Haskins - RB - Michigan
RD6:197 - Danny Gray - WR - SMU
RD6:198 - Jeremiah Moon - LB - Florida
RD7:222 - Doug Kramer - C - Illinois
RD7:235 - Cameron Dicker - K - Texas

Next version I'll try to incorporate some trades or use a completely different website. Felt like overall I got some pretty good value and athleticism at some positions that still seem to need it on this current roster. Guys like Weatherford, Okonkwo, Gray & Moon offer some versatility and have unique speed/size for their respective positions. Kramer and Dicker in RD7 are probably camp fodder but with Linder's future up in the air I felt like we need to try something there late just incase and Dicker has a pretty good leg to push Wright this summer. 

Salyer and Goedeke offer immediate competition to the right side of the offensive line. Especially with Taylor. Sayler can also play G or T during his rookie year. Tolbert has some good size to him. I don't know if he can play X receiver but I think he has some good ability for his size that can allow some one-on-one, jump ball opportunities. Hutchinson and McBride were no brainers for me personally. Haskins is a good pick at RB given the recoveries with Etienne and Robinson.

I really like this, much effort went in this one! Still we need LB talent/help, where do we find it?
LOVE THEM JAGUARS!
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#29

(03-21-2022, 06:41 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(03-21-2022, 04:14 PM)Upper Wrote: Cine went to the Eagles at 19 in PFFs live mock this morning. Unfortunately I am seeing him in the 20s more often than not lately. While I am still extremely intruiged by doubling down and taking Mafe at 33 I do not see it as a realistic opsion so I'm probably pivoting back to a small reach for Pickens being the best option.
Hutch and Pickens have been the 2 most popular picks for Jags in round 1 and 2.

Round 3 has been all over the place. LB in round 3 is kinda popular.

I know, I just don't think Pickens is quite in the 33 tier. More like 40s range IMO. I understand we're desperate though and won't be too upset with a reach for him.
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#30

(03-21-2022, 07:16 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(03-21-2022, 06:41 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Hutch and Pickens have been the 2 most popular picks for Jags in round 1 and 2.

Round 3 has been all over the place. LB in round 3 is kinda popular.

We gotta take a TE fairly early. TE's are very prominent in Pederson's offense and Engram is only here on a 1 yer deal and has been dealing with a lot of injuries. I'd be shocked if we went into day 3 of the draft without TE already being addressed.
They certainly do not have to take a TE early.

I’m cool waiting until round 4 or so for a TE
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#31

(03-21-2022, 07:47 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(03-21-2022, 07:16 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: We gotta take a TE fairly early. TE's are very prominent in Pederson's offense and Engram is only here on a 1 yer deal and has been dealing with a lot of injuries. I'd be shocked if we went into day 3 of the draft without TE already being addressed.
They certainly do not have to take a TE early.

I’m cool waiting until round 4 or so for a TE

I think we don't have to take TE early, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see us go TE in the 2nd or 3rd round.

I think Pederson takes the position more seriously than any other coach we've had. 

Had we signed Engram to a longer term deal, I might be inclined to think we go TE in the 3rd or later.
 

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#32

(03-21-2022, 07:50 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(03-21-2022, 07:47 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: They certainly do not have to take a TE early.

I’m cool waiting until round 4 or so for a TE

I think we don't have to take TE early, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see us go TE in the 2nd or 3rd round.

I think Pederson takes the position more seriously than any other coach we've had. 

Had we signed Engram to a longer term deal, I might be inclined to think we go TE in the 3rd or later.

Baalke has definitely proven that he doesn't care blowing out the budget for non premium positions, I certainly won't be surprised if he does it in the draft either. There is no top 50 TE in this class, but TE at 33 should surprise no one.
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#34
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(03-21-2022, 07:53 PM)Dimson Wrote: [Image: 276310097_1871586123030365_7927337383153...e=623E117B]

Don't think I've ever heard of Spiegel.  I don't see the blue check mark thing, so either

1.  My eyesight is even worse than I thought
2.  It's a fake twitter account
3.  He's not exactly a public figure.

If it's true, that's an excellent development.  But if there's anything to this, it wouldn't surprise me to learn this is the Jaguars leaking this information to drum up the trade talk to drive up the price.

Edit: Thinking about it, the timing seems to fit a little.

The Falcons just traded Matt Ryan to get a 3rd round pick. I think they also have 2 2nd round picks.

Maybe...
 

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#35

(03-21-2022, 07:57 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(03-21-2022, 07:53 PM)Dimson Wrote: [Image: 276310097_1871586123030365_7927337383153...e=623E117B]

Don't think I've ever heard of Spiegel.  I don't see the blue check mark thing, so either

1.  My eyesight is even worse than I thought
2.  It's a fake twitter account
3.  He's not exactly a public figure.

If it's true, that's an excellent development.  But if there's anything to this, it wouldn't surprise me to learn this is the Jaguars leaking this information to drum up the trade talk to drive up the price.

It is sus of course but it is in the realm of possibilities if a QB can rise up the draft board.
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#36

(03-21-2022, 07:53 PM)Upper Wrote:
(03-21-2022, 07:50 PM)Bullseye Wrote: I think we don't have to take TE early, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see us go TE in the 2nd or 3rd round.

I think Pederson takes the position more seriously than any other coach we've had. 

Had we signed Engram to a longer term deal, I might be inclined to think we go TE in the 3rd or later.

Baalke has definitely proven that he doesn't care blowing out the budget for non premium positions, I certainly won't be surprised if he does it in the draft either. There is no top 50 TE in this class, but TE at 33 should surprise no one.

It wouldn't necessarily be at 33.

They could trade back from 33, or up from the 3rd round into the bottom half of the 2nd round.

Considering the needs of the offense, as well as the need to give TL weapons, it may well be a priority/premium position for Pederson.
 

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#38

(03-21-2022, 08:06 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(03-21-2022, 07:53 PM)Upper Wrote: Baalke has definitely proven that he doesn't care blowing out the budget for non premium positions, I certainly won't be surprised if he does it in the draft either. There is no top 50 TE in this class, but TE at 33 should surprise no one.

It wouldn't necessarily be at 33.

They could trade back from 33, or up from the 3rd round into the bottom half of the 2nd round.

Considering the needs of the offense, as well as the need to give TL weapons, it may well be a priority/premium position for Pederson.

Agree 100%. Personally, I believe we use one of our 3rd round picks on a TE.
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#39

65 or 70 is fine. 33 is not.
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#40

(03-21-2022, 08:58 PM)Upper Wrote: 65 or 70 is fine. 33 is not.

Question:  If I recall correctly (and please correct me if I don't) you were strongly against Friermuth at the bottom of the first and in the 2nd last year.

Do you just not like TEs taken higher than the 3rd?
 

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