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MJJ
Kirk
LS10
Treadwell
Agnew

Zay Jones has $14m guaranteed in his contract, for 2022 and 2023.  He'll be in the WR corps for 2022, at minimum.

In the corps, yes. On the game day roster? Are you sure?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Zay Jones has $14m guaranteed in his contract, for 2022 and 2023.  He'll be in the WR corps for 2022, at minimum.

In the corps, yes. On the game day roster? Are you sure?

Yes.  Also, you had 6 WRs listed, and if you keep Jones in the roster, even a game day inactive, it means you think they will carry 7 WRs on the 53.  I don't see them carrying 7 there.

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In the corps, yes. On the game day roster? Are you sure?

Yes.  Also, you had 6 WRs listed, and if you keep Jones in the roster, even a game day inactive, it means you think they will carry 7 WRs on the 53.  I don't see them carrying 7 there.

Depends on other positions of course, I just don't see Jones as all that good.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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Add Draft Pick (Round 4 or 5) --- Tyquan Thornton Has anyone see this guy? 4.28 forty time plus he has good hands, foot work, and runs decent routes. We need a burner .... I'd love to see us finally build some team speed (like KC has done)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ykWNadP6Y

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Yes.  Also, you had 6 WRs listed, and if you keep Jones in the roster, even a game day inactive, it means you think they will carry 7 WRs on the 53.  I don't see them carrying 7 there.

Depends on other positions of course, I just don't see Jones as all that good.

I think he's a mediocre NFL receiver that got overpaid.  Unfortuately, a mediocre NFL receiver equates to a good receiver on the Jaguars.

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I would like to see them keep Agnew more as Mr. Return guy.  They had to use him too much last year and we broke him.

He certainly flashed at the position last year, but I feel the same way.  My hope is that we upgrade the position enough that Agnew can't crack the top 4 most of the time.  He's a great returner.

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I would like to see them keep Agnew more as Mr. Return guy.  They had to use him too much last year and we broke him.

He certainly flashed at the position last year, but I feel the same way.  My hope is that we upgrade the position enough that Agnew can't crack the top 4 most of the time.  He's a great returner.

When Agnew was healthy, he was bar none, our best WR last season. I would keep Agnew and get rid of all of the other receivers from last year's team.

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I'm not going to pretend to have watched a lot of the Raiders or Zay, but I think his lack of stats possibly has to do with the guys around him on that roster as much or more than his lack of skills. Maybe?

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I'm not going to pretend to have watched a lot of the Raiders or Zay, but I think his lack of stats possibly has to do with the guys around him on that roster as much or more than his lack of skills. Maybe?

The Raiders top 2 WRs last season were Hunter Renfrow and Bryan Edwards (pretty sad).   It's not like he was competing for targets alongside Jamar Chase, Tylor Boyd and Tee Higgins.

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With Hill moving to Miami you can add Chiefs to the list of teams likely to draft a WR in round 1. Feels like a trade up may well be required.

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With Hill moving to Miami you can add Chiefs to the list of teams likely to draft a WR in round 1. Feels like a trade up may well be required.

Only maybe one or two of the top 6 seem like sure things to me, maybe Drake and Olave. I’d rather trade down into the second, pickup Pickens and a top TE. It’s a crapshoot.

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With Hill moving to Miami you can add Chiefs to the list of teams likely to draft a WR in round 1. Feels like a trade up may well be required.

Chiefs need some serious defensive needs.  I think they will roll with their current TE/WR core of players  -- they have Kelce, JuJu, Hardman, Gordon .... OK, perhaps they pick up someone in the 3rd or later.

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With Hill moving to Miami you can add Chiefs to the list of teams likely to draft a WR in round 1. Feels like a trade up may well be required.

Chiefs need some serious defensive needs.  I think they will roll with their current TE/WR core of players  -- they have Kelce, JuJu, Hardman, Gordon .... OK, perhaps they pick up someone in the 3rd or later.

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The current group of WRs is almost meaningless at this point.  I could see 2-3 of these guys gone from the roster by opening day.

This.

We have not improved much. We still need a bonafide number 1 WR. We have a team full of WR2‘s and 3’s. 

We need to go in the draft and add as many weapons as possible for Trevor Lawrence. Christian Kirk didn’t move the needle at all.

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With Hill moving to Miami you can add Chiefs to the list of teams likely to draft a WR in round 1. Feels like a trade up may well be required.

Agreed. There won't be much left at #33.

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With Hill moving to Miami you can add Chiefs to the list of teams likely to draft a WR in round 1. Feels like a trade up may well be required.

Only maybe one or two of the top 6 seem like sure things to me, maybe Drake and Olave. I’d rather trade down into the second, pickup Pickens and a top TE. It’s a crapshoot.

Pickens is the most inconsistent WR in the draft. Despite his good 40 time, he's never had more than 49 receptions in a full season and that was in 2019. That's not impressive at all. He can't consistently get separation which means he either can't run routes to save his life or he gets hung up on jams by the DB's near the line of scrimmage. He'll make about 3-4 spectacular catches during a season and completely disappear, the rest of the season. I want no part of that guy.

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With Hill moving to Miami you can add Chiefs to the list of teams likely to draft a WR in round 1. Feels like a trade up may well be required.

Chiefs need some serious defensive needs.  I think they will roll with their current TE/WR core of players  -- they have Kelce, JuJu, Hardman, Gordon .... OK, perhaps they pick up someone in the 3rd or later.

That group of WR's doesn't scare anyone. They will take a WR either in round 1 or round 2, depending on what is available.

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The current group of receivers is better than what they had last season- especially since Chark was out due to injury. If they lined up today, the group would consist of:

1. Christian Kirk - mostly in the slot.

2. Marvin Jones- outside possession receiver

3. Zay Jones- same as Marvin Jones.

4. Viska Shennault- back-up slot and occasionally used as a running back.

5. Laquon Treadwell- 3rd outside possession receiver

6. TBD- likely 2nd round draft pick


Obviously, the key to this group will be the player selected in the draft- likely in round 2. As has been noted, now that the Packers and Chiefs are likely to draft a receiver in round 1 the Jaguars will likely be left with the 7th or 8th receiver to be taken. Dotson, Watson and Pickens have commonly be mocked to the Jaguars at 33. Due to the blockbuster trades, only one of these should be available. My guess is that it will be George Pickens since Watson is one of the fastest risers since the Combine and Dotson is a much safer pick than Pickens. Pickens is going to be one of, if not the most discussed receivers in this draft. Some general managers will love him due to his size/speed ratio and toughness which was illustrated by how fast he returned from the ACL injury. Others will hate him due to his inconsistency and temperamental personality. If BaalkePederson are in the former group, I believe his name will be called with pick 33. We already know Baalke has an affinity for players with previous ACL's.

Since Pickens is such an unknown, it's impossible to determine how the Jaguars 2022-23 receivers group will perform as a whole. If Pickens stays healthy and improves his consistency, this group should be very exciting and productive. When one includes Evan Engram and Etienne as other receiving options, this group would be difficult for most defenses to contend with.

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Absolute best case scenario (which has been made by many on this board) is to draft Hutch at #1 and trade up for Jamo.

This is, of course, if someone doesn’t trade up to #1 which seems unlikely.

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The current group of receivers is better than what they had last season- especially since Chark was out due to injury. If they lined up today, the group would consist of:

1. Christian Kirk - mostly in the slot.

2. Marvin Jones- outside possession receiver

3. Zay Jones- same as Marvin Jones.

4. Viska Shennault- back-up slot and occasionally used as a running back.

5. Laquon Treadwell- 3rd outside possession receiver

6. TBD- likely 2nd round draft pick


Obviously, the key to this group will be the player selected in the draft- likely in round 2. As has been noted, now that the Packers and Chiefs are likely to draft a receiver in round 1 the Jaguars will likely be left with the 7th or 8th receiver to be taken. Dotson, Watson and Pickens have commonly be mocked to the Jaguars at 33. Due to the blockbuster trades, only one of these should be available. My guess is that it will be George Pickens since Watson is one of the fastest risers since the Combine and Dotson is a much safer pick than Pickens. Pickens is going to be one of, if not the most discussed receivers in this draft. Some general managers will love him due to his size/speed ratio and toughness which was illustrated by how fast he returned from the ACL injury. Others will hate him due to his inconsistency and temperamental personality. If BaalkePederson are in the former group, I believe his name will be called with pick 33. We already know Baalke has an affinity for players with previous ACL's.

Since Pickens is such an unknown, it's impossible to determine how the Jaguars 2022-23 receivers group will perform as a whole. If Pickens stays healthy and improves his consistency, this group should be very exciting and productive. When one includes Evan Engram and Etienne as other receiving options, this group would be difficult for most defenses to contend with.

Where does that leave Agnew at though? Do you use him as the 6th WR to save a roster spot? Or just keep him simply as the kick/punt return man? 

Teams don't usually keep 7 WRs and they don't usually keep a guy who's only the designated return man, because that extra roster spot is usually better used on OL or DL.

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Since 2019, Treadwell has been making less than $1m base per year. In the past 2 seasons, for both Atlanta and Jacksonville, he spent time on their respective practice squads. I think the board is overvaluing Treadwell, as a former 1st round draft pick. Yes, he caught 30 balls last year for 410 yards, when Trevor had virtually no one else to throw to. If the Jags take a WR with a higher pick, I don't think Treadwell makes the roster.

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