Hmmmmm

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Why?

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So that they can get Hutch instead of the Jags.

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I know the Lions seemed to be dead set that they wanted Hutchinson before we ended up tagging Robinson. They thought we were gonna go OT with the first pick. When they saw we were gonna take Hutchinson, it really took the wind out of their sails. If they wanna trade up to #1, I tell them it will cost them the #2 overall pick and their first round pick in 2023. I then try to trade back yet again with another team, picking up another first round pick in 2023 and I take one of the premier WR's. If I can't trade down from #2, I still take the BAP in the draft, Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner. That guy is gonna be special. He's the best lockdown corner I've seen in many years. I then look into trading Shaquill Griffin. Either way we go, I'd stick to my board and take the BAP.

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I know the Lions seemed to be dead set that they wanted Hutchinson before we ended up tagging Robinson. They thought we were gonna go OT with the first pick. When they saw we were gonna take Hutchinson, it really took the wind out of their sails. If they wanna trade up to #1, I tell them it will cost them the #2 overall pick and their first round pick in 2023. I then try to trade back yet again with another team, picking up another first round pick in 2023 and I take one of the premier WR's. If I can't trade down from #2, I still take the BAP in the draft, Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner. That guy is gonna be special. He's the best lockdown corner I've seen in many years. I then look into trading Shaquill Griffin. Either way we go, I'd stick to my board and take the BAP.

I get the argument for sauce, but that true freshman season from Stingley was absurd. I’d prefer Stingley however wouldn’t be upset with sauce !

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I know the Lions seemed to be dead set that they wanted Hutchinson before we ended up tagging Robinson. They thought we were gonna go OT with the first pick. When they saw we were gonna take Hutchinson, it really took the wind out of their sails. If they wanna trade up to #1, I tell them it will cost them the #2 overall pick and their first round pick in 2023. I then try to trade back yet again with another team, picking up another first round pick in 2023 and I take one of the premier WR's. If I can't trade down from #2, I still take the BAP in the draft, Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner. That guy is gonna be special. He's the best lockdown corner I've seen in many years. I then look into trading Shaquill Griffin. Either way we go, I'd stick to my board and take the BAP.

I get the argument for sauce, but that true freshman season from Stingley was absurd. I’d prefer Stingley however wouldn’t be upset with sauce !

There is absolutely no way I would take Stingley over Gardner. Yes, Stingley did have a phenomenal freshman season, but he also had a poor sophomore season and then got injured his junior year and missed basically the entire year. We never got to see who the real Derek Stingley Jr. is. Is he the phenom from his first year or is he the average cover guy from his second season? It's just too big a risk. I don't see consistency with him. Personally, Stingley Jr. wouldn't even be my #2 CB. I prefer Trent McDuffie, but that's just me.

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I would give Detroit 1 for 2 and 32.

At 2 I am taking Kyle Hamilton at safety and at 32 I am taking Christian Watson at receiver.

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I would give Detroit 1 for 2 and 32.

At 2 I am taking Kyle Hamilton at safety and at 32 I am taking Christian Watson at receiver.

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I'd rather have their 2023 first rounder. It's gonna be a higher selection and I'm playing the long game. That would be quite a reach for Watson at #32. He has potential, but he's no first rounder and he's not even a second round pick imo. If he's there in the top of the 3rd, I run to the podium and select him though.

The only way I'm dealing the #1 for #2 and #32 is if the Lions include T.J. Hockenson in the deal.

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I would give Detroit 1 for 2 and 32.

At 2 I am taking Kyle Hamilton at safety and at 32 I am taking Christian Watson at receiver.

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I'd rather have their 2023 first rounder. It's gonna be a higher selection and I'm playing the long game. That would be quite a reach for Watson at #32. He has potential, but he's no first rounder and he's not even a second round pick imo. If he's there in the top of the 3rd, I run to the podium and select him though.

The only way I'm dealing the #1 for #2 and #32 is if the Lions include T.J. Hockenson in the deal.

That's getting greedy in my opinion. I don't think Detroit should budge. 2 and 32 for 1 is fair. Especially in this draft.

This team could package 32 and 33 up to get ahead of the WR needy teams more than likely on the opening night.

New Orleans at 18 or Philadelphia at 19 now become interesting trading spots to get you a receiver like Jameson Williams or Drake London if you absolutely have to have an "X" receiver.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

It would be for Malik Willis and the only reason for that would be another teams interest. We could get a little bit of a bidding war if he emerges as the sole franchise option in this qb class

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I'd rather have their 2023 first rounder. It's gonna be a higher selection and I'm playing the long game. That would be quite a reach for Watson at #32. He has potential, but he's no first rounder and he's not even a second round pick imo. If he's there in the top of the 3rd, I run to the podium and select him though.

The only way I'm dealing the #1 for #2 and #32 is if the Lions include T.J. Hockenson in the deal.

That's getting greedy in my opinion. I don't think Detroit should budge. 2 and 32 for 1 is fair. Especially in this draft.

This team could package 32 and 33 up to get ahead of the WR needy teams more than likely on the opening night.

New Orleans at 18 or Philadelphia at 19 now become interesting trading spots to get you a receiver like Jameson Williams or Drake London if you absolutely have to have an "X" receiver.

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Personally, if we're gonna trade up, I think we have to at least get to pick #18 to assure ourselves of getting one of the top guys. I see Atlanta taking Drake London at #8, Jameson Williams going to the Jets at pick #10, Philadelphia taking Garrett Wilson at #16 and New Orleans taking Chris Olave at #18. I then have Jahan Dotson going to New England at #21 and Treylon Burks going to Green Bay at #22.

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No need to get greedy. I'd be just fine with it if the Lions gave us #2 and #34 for #1. The Lions might want to use #32 for taking a quarterback for themselves. I'd drop to #2, take Evan Neal, and then look to move up for Jameson Williams or Chris Olave from #34. If David Ojabo is still around at #33, take him and let him heal up in 2022. After that, we got ourselves a steal for his level of talent at the top of the 2nd round. We wouldn't have much of a pass rush this year, but we would have a heck of an offensive line for Trevor, and that's a very good thing.

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Maybe 1 and 65 for 2, 32, 34 and a 2023 2 or 3.

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I'd do 1 for #2 and Hockenson

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I know the Lions seemed to be dead set that they wanted Hutchinson before we ended up tagging Robinson. They thought we were gonna go OT with the first pick. When they saw we were gonna take Hutchinson, it really took the wind out of their sails. If they wanna trade up to #1, I tell them it will cost them the #2 overall pick and their first round pick in 2023. I then try to trade back yet again with another team, picking up another first round pick in 2023 and I take one of the premier WR's. If I can't trade down from #2, I still take the BAP in the draft, Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner. That guy is gonna be special. He's the best lockdown corner I've seen in many years. I then look into trading Shaquill Griffin. Either way we go, I'd stick to my board and take the BAP.

I really like the idea of trading back twice in round 1. I believe the Lions will commit the ultimate draft sin of "falling in love" with a player. Due to this unhealthy obsession with Hutchinson, they will trade up one spot and part with picks 2 and 32 in return. I don't think they'd part with next year's one, however, as that cost would be too steep.

The Jaguars then trade pick 2 to a team desperate for a quarterback. Seattle, Atlanta and Carolina are the most likely trade partners. I'm most intrigued with the Seahawks as they are in re-building mode and might see Willis as their quarterback of the future. They will need to part with picks 9, 40 and 41 which pretty much equal the value of pick 2. The Jaguars then have 7 picks in the top 70. Their draft would then look like this:

1(9): Drake London or Jameson Williams

1(32) Tyler Linderbaum (he is still here in some mocks)

2(33) Trey McBride

2(40) Boye Mafe

2(41) Chad Muma

Trade picks 65 and 70 to take best offensive lineman in the middle of round 2: Darrian Kinnard, Daniel Faalele, Zion Johnson or Jamaree Salyer.


Can something like this happen? Detroit and Seattle (or Atlanta) must both be willing trade partners, but I could see this happening. Between the 7 new free agents and these 6 draft choices, the team would be totally re-vamped.

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I know the Lions seemed to be dead set that they wanted Hutchinson before we ended up tagging Robinson. They thought we were gonna go OT with the first pick. When they saw we were gonna take Hutchinson, it really took the wind out of their sails. If they wanna trade up to #1, I tell them it will cost them the #2 overall pick and their first round pick in 2023. I then try to trade back yet again with another team, picking up another first round pick in 2023 and I take one of the premier WR's. If I can't trade down from #2, I still take the BAP in the draft, Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner. That guy is gonna be special. He's the best lockdown corner I've seen in many years. I then look into trading Shaquill Griffin. Either way we go, I'd stick to my board and take the BAP.

I really like the idea of trading back twice in round 1. I believe the Lions will commit the ultimate draft sin of "falling in love" with a player. Due to this unhealthy obsession with Hutchinson, they will trade up one spot and part with picks 2 and 32 in return. I don't think they'd part with next year's one, however, as that cost would be too steep.

The Jaguars then trade pick 2 to a team desperate for a quarterback. Seattle, Atlanta and Carolina are the most likely trade partners. I'm most intrigued with the Seahawks as they are in re-building mode and might see Willis as their quarterback of the future. They will need to part with picks 9, 40 and 41 which pretty much equal the value of pick 2. The Jaguars then have 7 picks in the top 70. Their draft would then look like this:

1(9): Drake London or Jameson Williams

1(32) Tyler Linderbaum (he is still here in some mocks)

2(33) Trey McBride

2(40) Boye Mafe

2(41) Chad Muma

Trade picks 65 and 70 to take best offensive lineman in the middle of round 2: Darrian Kinnard, Daniel Faalele, Zion Johnson or Jamaree Salyer.


Can something like this happen? Detroit and Seattle (or Atlanta) must both be willing trade partners, but I could see this happening. Between the 7 new free agents and these 6 draft choices, the team would be totally re-vamped.

I was all in with you until you offered Drake London as a first round target Faalele as a round 2 target.  Those are two of my leAst favorite players in this draft.

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Hmmmmm

What report?

Do you have a link?

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Who do you guys want at #2?

Has to be #2 and #32 I don't know if I'd accept #34.

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I know the Lions seemed to be dead set that they wanted Hutchinson before we ended up tagging Robinson. They thought we were gonna go OT with the first pick. When they saw we were gonna take Hutchinson, it really took the wind out of their sails. If they wanna trade up to #1, I tell them it will cost them the #2 overall pick and their first round pick in 2023. I then try to trade back yet again with another team, picking up another first round pick in 2023 and I take one of the premier WR's. If I can't trade down from #2, I still take the BAP in the draft, Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner. That guy is gonna be special. He's the best lockdown corner I've seen in many years. I then look into trading Shaquill Griffin. Either way we go, I'd stick to my board and take the BAP.

I really like the idea of trading back twice in round 1. I believe the Lions will commit the ultimate draft sin of "falling in love" with a player. Due to this unhealthy obsession with Hutchinson, they will trade up one spot and part with picks 2 and 32 in return. I don't think they'd part with next year's one, however, as that cost would be too steep.

The Jaguars then trade pick 2 to a team desperate for a quarterback. Seattle, Atlanta and Carolina are the most likely trade partners. I'm most intrigued with the Seahawks as they are in re-building mode and might see Willis as their quarterback of the future. They will need to part with picks 9, 40 and 41 which pretty much equal the value of pick 2. The Jaguars then have 7 picks in the top 70. Their draft would then look like this:

1(9): Drake London or Jameson Williams

1(32) Tyler Linderbaum (he is still here in some mocks)

2(33) Trey McBride

2(40) Boye Mafe

2(41) Chad Muma

Trade picks 65 and 70 to take best offensive lineman in the middle of round 2: Darrian Kinnard, Daniel Faalele, Zion Johnson or Jamaree Salyer.


Can something like this happen? Detroit and Seattle (or Atlanta) must both be willing trade partners, but I could see this happening. Between the 7 new free agents and these 6 draft choices, the team would be totally re-vamped.

I'd love those 3 picks

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I am a fan, not a cheerleader.

I know the Lions seemed to be dead set that they wanted Hutchinson before we ended up tagging Robinson. They thought we were gonna go OT with the first pick. When they saw we were gonna take Hutchinson, it really took the wind out of their sails. If they wanna trade up to #1, I tell them it will cost them the #2 overall pick and their first round pick in 2023. I then try to trade back yet again with another team, picking up another first round pick in 2023 and I take one of the premier WR's. If I can't trade down from #2, I still take the BAP in the draft, Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner. That guy is gonna be special. He's the best lockdown corner I've seen in many years. I then look into trading Shaquill Griffin. Either way we go, I'd stick to my board and take the BAP.

I really like the idea of trading back twice in round 1. I believe the Lions will commit the ultimate draft sin of "falling in love" with a player. Due to this unhealthy obsession with Hutchinson, they will trade up one spot and part with picks 2 and 32 in return. I don't think they'd part with next year's one, however, as that cost would be too steep.

The Jaguars then trade pick 2 to a team desperate for a quarterback. Seattle, Atlanta and Carolina are the most likely trade partners. I'm most intrigued with the Seahawks as they are in re-building mode and might see Willis as their quarterback of the future. They will need to part with picks 9, 40 and 41 which pretty much equal the value of pick 2. The Jaguars then have 7 picks in the top 70. Their draft would then look like this:

1(9): Drake London or Jameson Williams

1(32) Tyler Linderbaum (he is still here in some mocks)

2(33) Trey McBride

2(40) Boye Mafe

2(41) Chad Muma

Trade picks 65 and 70 to take best offensive lineman in the middle of round 2: Darrian Kinnard, Daniel Faalele, Zion Johnson or Jamaree Salyer.


Can something like this happen? Detroit and Seattle (or Atlanta) must both be willing trade partners, but I could see this happening. Between the 7 new free agents and these 6 draft choices, the team would be totally re-vamped.

Good God! That may be the perfect draft. It'll never happen, but if it did, I'd be soooooooooooooooo happy. I want no part of Faalele though. He spent most of Senior Bowl week on the ground as he was dominated.

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i wish theyd be dumb enough to give us a crazy trade to move up one spot.

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Linderbaum isn't going to last that long, but he would be a great pickup if we traded up to around 20 or so.

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