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The fact that Khan has an opinion, scares me. He seems to know very little about football.

But from what he was quoted as saying in the article, it would seem he favors Hutchinson.  He talked about culture, work ethic, leadership, etc.  it seems like he values the intangibles that describe Hutchinson.

I am saying this because even though I think any of the top four would be fine, you seem to strongly favor Hutchinson, and I think Khan might agree with you.

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Let's be honest it's Jameson Williams. The culmination of the Trent Balke ACL fetish arc, the one that actually works. He finally proves torn ACL prospects are the right move, and he finally dosen't miss on a WR. It's the perfect oppurtunity!

You know...before his injury, I advocated taking him first overall.

After his injury, I backed away from that pick.  That said, injury and all, when I think of the possible picks at #1, injury and all, Jameson Williams is the one guy that really got me excited,

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Rumor has it that Doug is an Ekwonu guy,. I personally hope it’s Hutch or Thibs but they never seem to draft what the popular opinion is.

I think it's a good idea to go with the head coach's preference among fairly evenly rated players. That way it's easier to fire the head coach if things go south. He got who he wanted. But if Baalke picks Walker against' Pederson's wishes, Baalke is headed to Baalke island, which is easier for the owner to nuke.

This is a good point. I certainly hope that coach gets some input to the board to say who will or won't likely fit in our schemes, but at the same time I sure hope that "scheme fit" is not the only factor we rely on when making decisions at the top of a darft.

If Walker is as good as advertised, a coach should be able to find a place to make them work, or adjust their playbook to yield results. Same goes for any of the tackles, a DB, etc.

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This is the only surprise I would be okay with.

Take Sauce because he can delete one side of the field and help the ends get sacks.

In a QB heavy division like the AFC South (Ryan, Tannehill, Mills) one can't have enough DBs

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https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1...YWzWPIfQaw

The fact that Khan has an opinion, scares me. He seems to know very little about football.

Khan is welcome to an opinion. We just have to pray that Baalke is secure enough in his role to dismiss it accordingly.

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Baalke and Pederson both said they haven’t discussed the picks with anyone, so assuming it’s not Khan, where would this information about who likes who be coming from?

Surely they’re going to pick Hutchinson. The only left field pick I could see is Williams, as he would surely be in the conversation if he hadn’t done his acl. There haven’t been any reports I’ve seen about us looking in depth into the injury.

Walker is just too much of a projection pick. He may be fantastic, but we’re not in a position to take that kind of risk.

I’m not picking a guard at 1. If you take Neal (and tag/sign Cam), what was the point of the Little pick. That would be Baalke exposing a failure on his part.

Not saying it is or isn't going to happen, but taking an OL early would be the long term fix. Taking Little may or may not have been Baalke's wish considering last season's org structure.

At the same time, last year we had an OT playing on the tag, and a 2nd-year high pick as our bookends. Why take a tackle early then?

Even if we sign Cam long term and take another OT early this year, the purpose of Little is to give us high quality depth along the line at an affordable price. It gives you leverage if you either don't want to sign Cam long-term, or if you and he disagree on the value a long-term deal should carry. We also don't end up flushing the rest of the season down the commode if either tackle is out for any duration. I don't see how that would be a negative.

If Neal is basically Cam but a few years younger, taking him means you "extend" Cam for about 30-40% of the price tag. How would that be bad?

There's plenty of reasoning behind the pick if they go that route. I don't know if that's the direction we're headed, but it's not like we have the best line in football and are still looking to take a tackle.

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Baalke and Pederson both said they haven’t discussed the picks with anyone, so assuming it’s not Khan, where would this information about who likes who be coming from?

Surely they’re going to pick Hutchinson. The only left field pick I could see is Williams, as he would surely be in the conversation if he hadn’t done his acl. There haven’t been any reports I’ve seen about us looking in depth into the injury.

Walker is just too much of a projection pick. He may be fantastic, but we’re not in a position to take that kind of risk.

I’m not picking a guard at 1. If you take Neal (and tag/sign Cam), what was the point of the Little pick. That would be Baalke exposing a failure on his part.

Not saying it is or isn't going to happen, but taking an OL early would be the long term fix. Taking Little may or may not have been Baalke's wish considering last season's org structure.

At the same time, last year we had an OT playing on the tag, and a 2nd-year high pick as our bookends. Why take a tackle early then?

Even if we sign Cam long term and take another OT early this year, the purpose of Little is to give us high quality depth along the line at an affordable price. It gives you leverage if you either don't want to sign Cam long-term, or if you and he disagree on the value a long-term deal should carry. We also don't end up flushing the rest of the season down the commode if either tackle is out for any duration. I don't see how that would be a negative.

If Neal is basically Cam but a few years younger, taking him means you "extend" Cam for about 30-40% of the price tag. How would that be bad?

There's plenty of reasoning behind the pick if they go that route. I don't know if that's the direction we're headed, but it's not like we have the best line in football and are still looking to take a tackle.

This team has a lot of holes to fill. And a true pass rusher will help keep games close, which helps our offense. Quit playing, take Hutch who should be productive day one and still have plenty of opportunities in the later rounds to address O-Line. 

This team needs difference making players, Hutch fills that role..

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

Not saying it is or isn't going to happen, but taking an OL early would be the long term fix. Taking Little may or may not have been Baalke's wish considering last season's org structure.

At the same time, last year we had an OT playing on the tag, and a 2nd-year high pick as our bookends. Why take a tackle early then?

Even if we sign Cam long term and take another OT early this year, the purpose of Little is to give us high quality depth along the line at an affordable price. It gives you leverage if you either don't want to sign Cam long-term, or if you and he disagree on the value a long-term deal should carry. We also don't end up flushing the rest of the season down the commode if either tackle is out for any duration. I don't see how that would be a negative.

If Neal is basically Cam but a few years younger, taking him means you "extend" Cam for about 30-40% of the price tag. How would that be bad?

There's plenty of reasoning behind the pick if they go that route. I don't know if that's the direction we're headed, but it's not like we have the best line in football and are still looking to take a tackle.

This team has a lot of holes to fill. And a true pass rusher will help keep games close, which helps our offense. Quit playing, take Hutch who should be productive day one and still have plenty of opportunities in the later rounds to address O-Line. 

This team needs difference making players, Hutch fills that role..

No this argument is just not true. It may help win a game, but does nothing for the offense. I guess if you say it enough you can convince yourself? The major defect last year was we could not score. We scored 14ppg last year signing a defensive player will not help the offense score.   Teams were really not that concerned with us scoring on them. They could always put the clamps down when they wanted on our offense. On critical downs they could always get through our offensive line not letting routes develop. So we had to throw short which they camped. The days of teams holding people below 15 -16 points are gone. The rules favor offense and will continue to. It is now a fast track.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

This team has a lot of holes to fill. And a true pass rusher will help keep games close, which helps our offense. Quit playing, take Hutch who should be productive day one and still have plenty of opportunities in the later rounds to address O-Line. 

This team needs difference making players, Hutch fills that role..

No this argument is just not true. It may help win a game, but does nothing for the offense. I guess if you say it enough you can convince yourself? The major defect last year was we could not score. We scored 14ppg last year signing a defensive player will not help the offense score.   Teams were really not that concerned with us scoring on them. They could always put the clamps down when they wanted on our offense. On critical downs they could always get through our offensive line not letting routes develop. So we had to throw short which they camped. The days of teams holding people below 15 -16 points are gone. The rules favor offense and will continue to. It is now a fast track.

Please dont remind me. Such a frustrating watch when the offense took the field all year, and I watched almost all of it. So so frustrating. Jags better off making too many offensive moves instead of not enough.

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Not saying it is or isn't going to happen, but taking an OL early would be the long term fix. Taking Little may or may not have been Baalke's wish considering last season's org structure.

At the same time, last year we had an OT playing on the tag, and a 2nd-year high pick as our bookends. Why take a tackle early then?

Even if we sign Cam long term and take another OT early this year, the purpose of Little is to give us high quality depth along the line at an affordable price. It gives you leverage if you either don't want to sign Cam long-term, or if you and he disagree on the value a long-term deal should carry. We also don't end up flushing the rest of the season down the commode if either tackle is out for any duration. I don't see how that would be a negative.

If Neal is basically Cam but a few years younger, taking him means you "extend" Cam for about 30-40% of the price tag. How would that be bad?

There's plenty of reasoning behind the pick if they go that route. I don't know if that's the direction we're headed, but it's not like we have the best line in football and are still looking to take a tackle.

This team has a lot of holes to fill. And a true pass rusher will help keep games close, which helps our offense. Quit playing, take Hutch who should be productive day one and still have plenty of opportunities in the later rounds to address O-Line. 

This team needs difference making players, Hutch fills that role..

Hutch is a classic coverage sack guy in the NFL.

Non stop motor - it'll get him sacks after the 5 second mark.. he won't be getting sacks in 2.5 seconds. He doesn't have the bend.

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Take Sauce because he can delete one side of the field and help the ends get sacks.

In a QB heavy division like the AFC South (Ryan, Tannehill, Mills) one can't have enough DBs

This would be intriguing. I wouldn't call us a QB heavy division at all (that's the AFC West), but this could go a long way toward helping our pass rush.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

This team has a lot of holes to fill. And a true pass rusher will help keep games close, which helps our offense. Quit playing, take Hutch who should be productive day one and still have plenty of opportunities in the later rounds to address O-Line. 

This team needs difference making players, Hutch fills that role..

Hutch is a classic coverage sack guy in the NFL.

Non stop motor - it'll get him sacks after the 5 second mark.. he won't be getting sacks in 2.5 seconds. He doesn't have the bend.

Oh?
https://twitter.com/PFF_AustinGayle/stat...1657747460

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In a QB heavy division like the AFC South (Ryan, Tannehill, Mills) one can't have enough DBs

This would be intriguing.  I wouldn't call us a QB heavy division at all (that's the AFC West), but this could go a long way toward helping our pass rush.

*sarcasm

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Hutch is a classic coverage sack guy in the NFL.

Non stop motor - it'll get him sacks after the 5 second mark.. he won't be getting sacks in 2.5 seconds. He doesn't have the bend.

Oh?
https://twitter.com/PFF_AustinGayle/stat...1657747460

There is a web site that deciphers the draft terminology code and Non stop motor when used to describe a player means

High Motor
Probably my favorite. This is a guy that tries hard and seemingly gets more out of his body than is expected.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

Hutch is a classic coverage sack guy in the NFL.

Non stop motor - it'll get him sacks after the 5 second mark.. he won't be getting sacks in 2.5 seconds. He doesn't have the bend.

Oh?
https://twitter.com/PFF_AustinGayle/stat...1657747460

I’ve seen that tweet and it’s interesting.  Not sure what qualifies as a pressure, but pressure doesn’t necessarily mean sack.  Watching Hutch’s highlights and counting from the snap will show more post 3 second sacks than not which means to me that he deserves some credit for it, not all.  And also concerns me about his sack numbers translating to the NFL.

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Baalke and Pederson both said they haven’t discussed the picks with anyone, so assuming it’s not Khan, where would this information about who likes who be coming from?

Surely they’re going to pick Hutchinson. The only left field pick I could see is Williams, as he would surely be in the conversation if he hadn’t done his acl. There haven’t been any reports I’ve seen about us looking in depth into the injury.

Walker is just too much of a projection pick. He may be fantastic, but we’re not in a position to take that kind of risk.

I’m not picking a guard at 1. If you take Neal (and tag/sign Cam), what was the point of the Little pick. That would be Baalke exposing a failure on his part.

I geinunely like Walker Little as much as a prospect as I do Neal/Icky. At least prior to him missing so much time in college. He will be the guy, I'm very confident in Walker Little.


Sorry had to edit in the last name before people thought I was talking about Travon lol.

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Baalke and Pederson both said they haven’t discussed the picks with anyone, so assuming it’s not Khan, where would this information about who likes who be coming from?

Surely they’re going to pick Hutchinson. The only left field pick I could see is Williams, as he would surely be in the conversation if he hadn’t done his acl. There haven’t been any reports I’ve seen about us looking in depth into the injury.

Walker is just too much of a projection pick. He may be fantastic, but we’re not in a position to take that kind of risk.

I’m not picking a guard at 1. If you take Neal (and tag/sign Cam), what was the point of the Little pick. That would be Baalke exposing a failure on his part.

I geinunely like Walker Little as much as a prospect as I do Neal/Icky. At least prior to him missing so much time in college. He will be the guy, I'm very confident in Walker Little.


Sorry had to edit in the last name before people thought I was talking about Travon lol.

I’m right on board with this. Somehow it’s largely been forgotten how well walker little played last year, especially near the end of the season. Little is a guy who would have been top 10 if not banged up. I find it easier to project Little than guys who have never even played a game in the NFL. 2 of our 3 victories came when he started. The protection was noticeably better during the colts game with Little at LT. I would rather go with Little and move Cam to RT. Let’s take some depth o-line at 2-4 range, but not number 1 overall.

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1 more day until draft day!!!!

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It's going to be Sauce Gardner

Say they were to actually draft Sauce Gardner. Can any of the current CB's play Safety at least some of the time?

If not, you now have 2 high draft picks and 2 large contracts at CB when only 3 can really see the field at a time. I don't think I've ever heard of a CB rotation to "keep guys fresh", and there is no way they opt to play a high percentage of Dime given how poor the Run defense has been and our AFC South competition.

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This is potentially the best the jags have been in the secondary since that 2017 team. Maybe. Ofcourse Cisco needs to ball out and then another safety next to him.

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