Yes, that's the ruling. The President has sole discretion. If there's a dispute the National Archives has recourse, but as a civil matter an armed raid by the FBI is not in the prescription for resolution. That's why this is egregious, because it was done specifically to discredit Trump not because he did anything wrong.

According to liberal democrat lawyer Alan Dershowitz (who has been shunned in his social circles because he stands for the law and not party doctrine) search warrants cannot be legally used to recover property. That is a civil matter.

That's misdirection.
Alan is technically correct.  The material is currently in the FBI's possession, not the National Archives.  The FBI is basically borrowing them while they determine if they are evidence of a crime.  If the FBI investigation concludes without any further legal process, the materials will be returned to Trump.

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According to liberal democrat lawyer Alan Dershowitz (who has been shunned in his social circles because he stands for the law and not party doctrine) search warrants cannot be legally used to recover property. That is a civil matter.

And that's my issue, they went jackboots on a civil matter for the clicks. It's an abuse of power and Trump to have done it this way.

Yep.

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According to liberal democrat lawyer Alan Dershowitz (who has been shunned in his social circles because he stands for the law and not party doctrine) search warrants cannot be legally used to recover property. That is a civil matter.

That's misdirection.
Alan is technically correct.  The material is currently in the FBI's possession, not the National Archives.  The FBI is basically borrowing them while they determine if they are evidence of a crime.  If the FBI investigation concludes without any further legal process, the materials will be returned to Trump.

If that happens, will they issue a public apology?

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

And that's my issue, they went jackboots on a civil matter for the clicks. It's an abuse of power and Trump to have done it this way.

Yep.

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That's misdirection.
Alan is technically correct.  The material is currently in the FBI's possession, not the National Archives.  The FBI is basically borrowing them while they determine if they are evidence of a crime.  If the FBI investigation concludes without any further legal process, the materials will be returned to Trump.

If that happens, will they issue a public apology?

Most likely not because that would be a tacit admission of trumped up criminal charges to conduct a raid.

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Yep.

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If that happens, will they issue a public apology?

Most likely not because that would be a tacit admission of trumped up criminal charges to conduct a raid.

Like what you did there.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

According to liberal democrat lawyer Alan Dershowitz (who has been shunned in his social circles because he stands for the law and not party doctrine) search warrants cannot be legally used to recover property. That is a civil matter.

That's misdirection.
Alan is technically correct.  The material is currently in the FBI's possession, not the National Archives.  The FBI is basically borrowing them while they determine if they are evidence of a crime.  If the FBI investigation concludes without any further legal process, the materials will be returned to Trump.

Technically correct is just plain correct. Everything else there is your own baseless misdirection.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

That's misdirection.
Alan is technically correct.  The material is currently in the FBI's possession, not the National Archives.  The FBI is basically borrowing them while they determine if they are evidence of a crime.  If the FBI investigation concludes without any further legal process, the materials will be returned to Trump.

Technically correct is just plain correct. Everything else there is your own baseless misdirection.

He is playing right out of the lefts playbook... Deflect and project... He does this all the time, making up crap that has nothing to do with the current conversation. Just keep calling him out on his bs...Maybe he will learn one day, I doubt it, but maybe.

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

That's misdirection.
Alan is technically correct.  The material is currently in the FBI's possession, not the National Archives.  The FBI is basically borrowing them while they determine if they are evidence of a crime.  If the FBI investigation concludes without any further legal process, the materials will be returned to Trump.

Technically correct is just plain correct. Everything else there is your own baseless misdirection.

No, it's explaining why the fact Alan is presenting is irrelevant to the discussion.

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Technically correct is just plain correct. Everything else there is your own baseless misdirection.

No, it's explaining why the fact Alan is presenting is irrelevant to the discussion.

No, it's explaining that you just want to side against Trump no matter how egregious the government acts against him.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

No, it's explaining why the fact Alan is presenting is irrelevant to the discussion.

No, it's explaining that you just want to side against Trump no matter how egregious the government acts against him.

So you're saying you'd be all for it if instead of the FBI getting a search warrant, the National Archives sued for the contents of Trump's safe? Be honest.  You would oppose that as well.

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And that's my issue, they went jackboots on a civil matter for the clicks. It's an abuse of power and Trump to have done it this way.

Yep.

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That's misdirection.
Alan is technically correct.  The material is currently in the FBI's possession, not the National Archives.  The FBI is basically borrowing them while they determine if they are evidence of a crime.  If the FBI investigation concludes without any further legal process, the materials will be returned to Trump.

If that happens, will they issue a public apology?

Probably not.  But they'll probably say "procedures are being reviewed" and maybe fire a few people.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

No, it's explaining that you just want to side against Trump no matter how egregious the government acts against him.

So you're saying you'd be all for it if instead of the FBI getting a search warrant, the National Archives sued for the contents of Trump's safe? Be honest.  You would oppose that as well.

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Yep.

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If that happens, will they issue a public apology?

Probably not.  But they'll probably say "procedures are being reviewed" and maybe fire a few people.

“Procedures are being reviewed”? Oh, we are waaay past that. You do not raid a former Presidents home unless you got the goods on him, you can’t raid hoping to find something. Heads have to roll, people need to be fired or sent to jail for this [BLEEP].

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

No, it's explaining that you just want to side against Trump no matter how egregious the government acts against him.

So you're saying you'd be all for it if instead of the FBI getting a search warrant, the National Archives sued for the contents of Trump's safe? Be honest.  You would oppose that as well.

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Yep.

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If that happens, will they issue a public apology?

Probably not.  But they'll probably say "procedures are being reviewed" and maybe fire a few people.

Actually you're wrong, I remember the Clinton case and thought the ruling was correct then even though I didn't like him. The Executive has certain executive powers and this arrangement allows him to work without the worry that vengeance-minded successors would use the DoJ to harass him in his retirement. Apparently that was the correct assumption since we've seen that play out exactly that way. Taking it to the judiciary wouldn't have gotten them what they wanted though, so they went full on kamikaze to try and get Trump. This better get cleared up and resolved before the current guy leaves or the next Republican administration is going to hang Biden by his hair plugs.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Going to be really interesting if they tried to seize documents from the lawsuit that Trump has. If they wanted those or the Russia stuff, it may keep them out of civil court if they are being held by the FBI.

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Would they have raided his residence had he just wrapped up his second term? Be honest.

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Would they have raided his residence had he just wrapped up his second term?  Be honest.

Oh no, no way… but by then he would have destroyed much of the swamp and they knew it…

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

This is a good question and it's a very real possibility..........

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A picture is worth a thousand words

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

A picture is worth a thousand words

Is that the Clemson-LSU National Championship game?

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

A picture is worth a thousand words

Is that the Clemson-LSU National Championship game?

I am not sure... still, all we need to know about our government in one picture.

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

Is that the Clemson-LSU National Championship game?

I am not sure... still, all we need to know about our government in one picture.

What does it say exactly?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I am not sure... still, all we need to know about our government in one picture.

What does it say exactly?

It says that there is no difference between the leaders of both parties. They both answer to the same people. Nothing will change as long as these people are calling the shots…

But you already knew that…

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"