I'm trying to get a better gauge on how well we like the Pederson hire.

Here is a list of the 2022 opponents on the Jaguars Schedule and their coaches.

In what games would you say we have the edge in coaching?

Houston-Lovie Smith-
Indy-Frank reich-Tennessee-Mike Vrabel
Denver-Nathaniel Hackett
Dallas-Mike McCarthy
N.Y. Giants-Brian Daboll
Philadelphia-Nick Sirianni
Washington-Ron Rivera
Las Vegas-Josh McDaniels
Baltimore-John Harbaugh
Kansas City-Andy Reid
Los Angeles Chargers=Brandon Staley
N.Y. Jets-Robert Saleh
Detroit Lions-Dan Campbell


I think our division has four good coaches.  I would give Pederson the edge over the other three.  Hackett is a good playcaller, but is a first time head coach.  I don't give McCarthy too much credit.  He won a Super Bowl, but there's the sense he wasted Aaron Rodgers by only winning one with him.  Daboll is another inexperienced HC,  I'd give Pederson the edge over him and McDaniels.  I'd say it's a tie between Pederson and harbaugh.  I'd give Andy reid the edge over Pederson, but give Pederson the edge over eveybody else on the schedule.

What do you guys think?

Now that I've had a week or so to digest it, I really like the hire.   Cadwell, Pederson, Leftwich, and Daboll were my top 4.  My favorite was Caldwell at the beginning because I wanted a steady hand and a proven winner.  I was unsure of Pederson's departure from Philly.  When the Byron news leaked, I got hyped.  I was looking forward to him and Wilson.  But at the end of it all, messy process and all, I think Shad made the best hire with Pederson.

I'd say we have the advantage in all those games except Baltimore and KC in terms of head coaches.  And I think we're even money in both of those.

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Thanks for sharing

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Good look into Doug’s offensive philosophy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUGp69L1ryc

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I think Nick Foles would have been broken in half by the '17 Jags pass rush. Just destroyed. He's kind of a wuss.

I still have no doubts that if we don't get screwed by the Refs in that Championship game, that we would have beat the Eagles in the Bowl 100%.

I'm not familiar with whatever play you're referring to, I'm assuming it was a play from the AFCCG? Either way though, I don't think the Eagles would have lost LII regardless of who the opponent from the AFCCG was. I'm obviously biased, but I was supremely confident that 2017 was 'my year' (yes, mine) from the point where the Eagles kicked the 61 yard FG to beat the Giants, onward. Even after Wentz went down, I had 100% faith and confidence in Nick Foles taking the Eagles on a run that would lead all the way to the "Rocky Steps", and I'm not just saying that 'after the fact'. Members on the EMB can fully attest to that lol. 

But I'd hope that Jags fans don't hold on to a play of that sort, the way sad Cowboys fans hold on to the Dez Bryant incompletion. Every team, every year has plays that get called in such a way that you can say it was a bad call or a play that you say 'what if'. What if Randall Cunningham doesn't get hit directly on his knee by Bryce Paup, in the 1991 opener vs. the Packers? 

1991 was arguably that eras Eagles best shot at getting to and potentially winning a Lombardi. They had one of the greatest D's of all time, a QB who could pass and run (when properly coached) and a good run game. But first play of the 2nd quarter of the first game of the season, Cunningham gets his knee blown out by a helmet hitting directly on it and the season is lost. But despite having to use 5 different starting QB's throughout that season, they still finished 10-6. A lot of Eagles fans have held on to that 'what if' for a lot of years. It's meaningless, though. 

"What if's", never were.

If the play was called correctly, more than likely the Jags would have played your Eagles.  I’m in the minority in thinking that Philly would have still won.  We had a good D. But the Goats have a nice record in the SB.  Anyone that can knock them out clearly deserves it.  I do not believe Marrone/Bortles Could or would have beaten you guys.  Perhaps, the Jaguars just conditioned me into being let down.  Congrats on the SB from a Philly native.  

I’ve got optimism that Pederson will help turn the ship around.  Hopefully we can turn into a respectable team. 

Welcome to the board, it’s always nice to hear @the other side”.  Sounds like we’re in good hands finally.

Thanks for the welcome. I actually joined back when you all signed Nick, I was hoping he'd succeed. I've been a big fan of his ever since his first game with the Eagles. Having the 2017 playoffs go down the way they did were perfect (for Nick Foles fans). It definitely sucked for Wentz, he was having a career year. But if I could turn back the clock and switch QBs for that post season, I wouldn't. It played out 100% perfectly with Nick. 

I honestly don't remember the play in question with the Jags. As you can imagine, I was focused 100% on the Eagles and all other teams just didn't matter to me and again, to be perfectly honest... I'm happy that the Jags didn't get to LII. Not for fear of having lost to them, but I wanted the Eagles to avenge Super Bowl XXXIX and beat the Patriots. Any Super Bowl win would be 100% ok, of course. But beating Brady and the Patriots... with Nick Foles, was a beautiful dream. 

There's teams that I never want to see win the Super Bowl (again). Mainly the Giants, Cowboys and Redskins.... err... whatever their name is now. Mostly the Cowboys, though. For all other franchises, especially those that have never won one, I hope you get to experience it. As long as it isn't against the Eagles, of course lol. But it's an experience that all fans need to live through. Especially 'long suffering' fans. 

Can Doug do it for you? We'll see. But I really wasn't in favor of him being fired in Philly. Doug's a great presence in the facility, a calming presence (from what I'd read when he got to Philly in 2016). He just needs to run a balanced offense on gameday, and if he can lean more heavily on the run, all the better. But he likes to PASS, PASS, PASS... if he gets his own way and that can be really frustrating. 

Early in the 2017 season, he lost to the Chiefs which made the team almost revolt because of the imbalanced offense. He passed 46 times with only 17 runs. The worst part of that? The run game that day was averaging 6.3 yards per carry. SO freaking frustrating! lol It paid off in the end, though. He learned (for that season), that he had to balance things out more.

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I think Philly would have beaten us but I sure would have love to have a shot and at minimum have a SB appearance.  Damn what [BLEEP] call..

I've lived through three Super Bowl appearances for the Eagles (XV when I was 11), then XXXIX and finally LII. I never want to NOT get to the Super Bowl, but getting there and losing is far worse (or was for me), than not getting there. By 'not getting there', I'm talking about getting to the conference championship game and losing. The Eagles have been to three Super Bowls in my lifetime, but lost the NFCCG four times (three of them in a row). 

Losing the Conference Championship sucks, but losing the Super Bowl is 50 times worse. The build up for two weeks is really fun, though.

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Does anyone know how long his contract is for?

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Does anyone know how long his contract is for?

Hopefully, life without the chance of parole.

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Does anyone know how long his contract is for?

Shouldn't matter much.
Khan can afford to keep him around if things continue to go well. 
Won't affect the cap.

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Does anyone know how long his contract is for?

Shouldn't matter much.
Khan can afford to keep him around if things continue to go well. 
Won't affect the cap.

I'm not worried about the cap.  I was wondering how many years he signed for.  I'm guessing you don't know

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Byron might be a good HC down the line but we got a guy who has proven already that he can do this thing and take it to the bowl. We needed a guy with experience NOW for Lawrence not later. We didn't have time to let a guy grow into it.. we need someone who can help Trevor now before he continues playing the way he did last year. I love this hire and am so glad we didn't fall into that trap.

No one in here is really disagreeing with the hire of Pederson. He’s a very good coach and will likely help Trevor immensely. Look at the 2nd season for Wentz. I know it’s a broken record but it’s the process. 30+ days between his 1st and 2nd interview? Asking to interview other coaches who you can’t interview til after the SB? Offering the job to multiple candidates (rumored) before landing on Pederson.

And now, if they don’t hire Spielman (which I think they will), it will look even worse. Pederson with Baalke will blow up. Pederson with Spielman and Baalke is salvageable.

Whos the clown now

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Shouldn't matter much.
Khan can afford to keep him around if things continue to go well. 
Won't affect the cap.

I'm not worried about the cap.  I was wondering how many years he signed for.  I'm guessing you don't know

It was never disclosed to the public. 

No one knows. 

The rumor is that it's around 2 million per year. 
( I bet it's 4 times that at least)

The point I was trying to make is that it doesn't matter how long the term of contract is. 
If Khan wants to keep him around - he can match or outbid anyone. 

If all parties remain copacetic and productive he could be the Jags coach until the wheels fall off the franchise.

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No one in here is really disagreeing with the hire of Pederson. He’s a very good coach and will likely help Trevor immensely. Look at the 2nd season for Wentz. I know it’s a broken record but it’s the process. 30+ days between his 1st and 2nd interview? Asking to interview other coaches who you can’t interview til after the SB? Offering the job to multiple candidates (rumored) before landing on Pederson.

And now, if they don’t hire Spielman (which I think they will), it will look even worse. Pederson with Baalke will blow up. Pederson with Spielman and Baalke is salvageable.

Whos the clown now

Still you, why do you ask?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

No one in here is really disagreeing with the hire of Pederson. He’s a very good coach and will likely help Trevor immensely. Look at the 2nd season for Wentz. I know it’s a broken record but it’s the process. 30+ days between his 1st and 2nd interview? Asking to interview other coaches who you can’t interview til after the SB? Offering the job to multiple candidates (rumored) before landing on Pederson.

And now, if they don’t hire Spielman (which I think they will), it will look even worse. Pederson with Baalke will blow up. Pederson with Spielman and Baalke is salvageable.

Whos the clown now

Didn't age well.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

I'm not worried about the cap.  I was wondering how many years he signed for.  I'm guessing you don't know

It was never disclosed to the public. 

No one knows. 

The rumor is that it's around 2 million per year. 
( I bet it's 4 times that at least)

The point I was trying to make is that it doesn't matter how long the term of contract is. 
If Khan wants to keep him around - he can match or outbid anyone. 

If all parties remain copacetic and productive he could be the Jags coach until the wheels fall off the franchise.

That is really cheap, bottom of the league cheap. Did Khan run out of money on Meyer?

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Look. I can understand the balkie clown stuff, but that Khan clown stuff was really out of pocket, and I said it before and still say it now. Khan is a huge reason why the jags didnt possibly get moved out of town and the guy might not be a jerry jones all up in the business, but he appears to care and want to win.

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Look. I can understand the balkie clown stuff, but that Khan clown stuff was really out of pocket, and I said it before and still say it now. Khan is a huge reason why the jags didnt possibly get moved out of town and the guy might not be a jerry jones all up in the business, but he appears to care and want to win.

I think Shad got a lot of heat because he made some questionable hiring decisions (where personal preference was put ahead of what's best for the team), the Meyer fiasco was a tipping point

Winning will forgive everything, and the reality is that Shad is also still learning how to be an NFL owner. He ever gets a taste of consistent winning, he'll pour a lot more resources into the team and into the city, and we all benefit. But it's a balancing act too, if we become too successful and marketable (one can dream), he may want to scratch that London itch.

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It was never disclosed to the public. 

No one knows. 

The rumor is that it's around 2 million per year. 
( I bet it's 4 times that at least)

The point I was trying to make is that it doesn't matter how long the term of contract is. 
If Khan wants to keep him around - he can match or outbid anyone. 

If all parties remain copacetic and productive he could be the Jags coach until the wheels fall off the franchise.

That is really cheap, bottom of the league cheap. Did Khan run out of money on Meyer?

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I bet he's making between 9-12 mil per year 

That 2 mil number is just an unfounded rumor

A SB winning coach is gonna make money near the top tier coaching salaries

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