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How to get this turned around

#21

For this season, I say just stay the course but improve in Redzone efficiency and stop the crosser lol

For the future? Invest in a game breaking X receiver.

https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...M5GQVwLc9g
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#22

As we've already clearly made the turn around I would say turning around from here would send us back the direction we were going last year.
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#23
(This post was last modified: 10-19-2022, 02:37 PM by Caldrac.)

(10-19-2022, 01:42 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: For this season, I say just stay the course but improve in Redzone efficiency and stop the crosser lol

For the future? Invest in a game breaking X receiver.

https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...M5GQVwLc9g

Agreed. We need to get a young, go up and get it receiver on the outside for Lawrence to start developing with. You already know my stance on Demus Jr. out of Maryland. A.T Perry out of Wake Forest is another big receiver they need to be keeping an eye out on. Everybody is high on Quentin Johnston as well out of TCU. He might be a top ten pick. 

I think Marvin Jones won't be back here next year. We're good with Christian Kirk and Zay Jones. They'll still be undersized a bit at the position. My other concern is the TE room. All three of our main guys could all be out of here next year if the team is not interested in resigning them or if they don't want to come back to begin with. Michael Mayer out of Notre Dame & Erick All out of Michigan are going to be fighting for top TE honors in next year's class. 

Darnell Washington out of Georgia. He's worth grabbing if he's there in RD3 - RD4. No way Lawrence overthrows his giant [BLEEP] running around out there. LOL.
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#24

This should help the defense get back on track a bit:

https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/15828...WMOKdpPJrg
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#25

(10-19-2022, 02:55 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: This should help the defense get back on track a bit:

https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/15828...WMOKdpPJrg

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#26

(10-19-2022, 01:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(10-19-2022, 12:51 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Every team can say just make fewer mistakes and the team will improve.  Most games are won by other teams mistakes.  Look at the 1 win Texans, 2 of their 3 losses were by 1 score and the other they lost by 10. Look at 1 win Raiders, all 4 of their losses have came by 1 score. This isn't college, if the Raiders and Texans would of just had fewer mistakes their record would be much better just like us.  I just used those 2 as examples because those 2 teams have 2 of the worst records in the league's.  There is a few things we need to change to get this team winning games and Doug took a step in the right direction last week with the way he wanted to run the football.

Don't move the goalposts. 

I didn't say "improve" - I said go from 2 wins to 5 wins. 
You know damn well there are several teams out there who are not a few mistakes away from a 5-1 record. Yet you said "anyone in the league can say that." 

No. No they can't. 

We are a few mistakes away from a 5-1 record. Many are not. 

Patriots couldn't accurately say that.
Steelers couldn't accurately say that.
Commanders couldn't accurately say that.
Panthers couldn't accurately say that.
Rams can't even say that accurately right now. 
You can even make a case that the Cardinals have had more than just a few mistakes that caused 2 of their losses. 

We are in a better situation than those teams. Our losses have been more preventable via simple execution of the plays and coverages being called.

Im not gonna go through every team.  But ill go through your first 2.  You dont move the goal post.   They could of cut out a few mistakes and have 4 or 5 wins easily like us.
The Pats lost 1 game in OT, 1 game by 3 points and 1 game by 11 points. The Steelers lost 1 game in OT, 1 game by 3 points, and 1 game by 4 points. Its rare teams get blown out all the time
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#27
(This post was last modified: 10-19-2022, 05:26 PM by nejagsfan. Edited 1 time in total.)

(10-19-2022, 09:01 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: Run the ball. If it looks like the pass game is not working, which results in the D being on the field too long, go back to the run.

Why aren’t we utilizing our TEs more?

Nah.... The offense was on the field in the 4th quarter for a 10 minute drive and TD.... they were well rested and still blew it...they just couldn't get to the QB all day....which put it all on the secondary....and that's when you have problems....the defense has to be more productive in the pass rush... period!!  otherwise our secondary will get eaten alive
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#28

I think it may take human sacrifice...
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#29

(10-19-2022, 05:31 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: I think it may take human sacrifice...

You volunteering?
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
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#30

Give ETN more touches.

https://twitter.com/haydenwinks/status/1...XxzJBAfpKQ
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#31
(This post was last modified: 10-19-2022, 06:53 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

(10-19-2022, 06:47 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Give ETN more touches.

https://twitter.com/haydenwinks/status/1...XxzJBAfpKQ

It's good to see you finally jumping on board with running the football more. Agreed
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#32

(10-19-2022, 06:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(10-19-2022, 06:47 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Give ETN more touches.

https://twitter.com/haydenwinks/status/1...XxzJBAfpKQ

It's good to see you finally jumping on board with running the football more.  Agreed
Touches doesn’t mean runs…..

Im for giving him the ball more than JRob and I don’t care how that happens.
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#33

Consistent defence
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#34
(This post was last modified: 10-19-2022, 08:16 PM by JagFanatic24. Edited 1 time in total.)

(10-19-2022, 09:01 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: Run the ball. If it looks like the pass game is not working, which results in the D being on the field too long, go back to the run.

Why aren’t we utilizing our TEs more?

I would also like to know about the TE utilization. Maybe Trevor isn’t reading the field as good as he should. Maybe it’s simply their number isn’t getting called for whatever reason but Shannon Sharpe and other football gurus always say a QB’s best friend is the TE and a strong running game and play good defense. Engram has good speed to get up on the linebackers and make a move.

To the OP. Good post. I also think Griffin needs to be replaced for Herndon. Atleast Herndon can turn and run. You might want to bump Griffin down to a nickel package and put him in press in order to jam the WR3 at the line. He’s plenty physical enough but just can’t run. 

Walker has to cut down…actually he has to STOP with the back breaker type penalties. 

And yes Tim Jones needs more targets. If Tim comes in as your 4th or 5th WR, I think he’s better than the opposing team’s 4th or 5th CB. That’s a matchup you want. 

I think the play calling has been pretty good. I love that Pederson uses a lot of presnap movement. I’m being petty here, but I think play action from under center is where it’s at. It allows your QB to hold the backers and safeties and allows timing routes. The shotgun stuff is where Lawrence likes to bail. And he is struggling against the blitz. 

I also agree with the aggressiveness on 4th down. Our kicker has only missed 1 time and he has a live leg. Take the 3 points and get back after it on the next drive. 

With a 17 game season, a bunch of stuff can still happen. This division is still there for the taking.

(10-19-2022, 02:55 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: This should help the defense get back on track a bit:

https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/15828...WMOKdpPJrg

This is great news!
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#35

(10-19-2022, 07:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(10-19-2022, 06:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: It's good to see you finally jumping on board with running the football more.  Agreed
Touches doesn’t mean runs…..

Im for giving him the ball more than JRob and I don’t care how that happens.
Ooohh so you want to give him some of JRobs touches.  Naw, JRob still needs his touches.  You we just need to add some more for Travis
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#36

(10-19-2022, 12:37 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Can we cheat?

Just wondering.

Need to generate a certain amount of revenue for the league to be allowed to cheat.
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(This post was last modified: 10-19-2022, 08:09 PM by Cleatwood. Edited 1 time in total.)

(10-19-2022, 07:25 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(10-19-2022, 07:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Touches doesn’t mean runs…..

Im for giving him the ball more than JRob and I don’t care how that happens.
Ooohh so you want to give him some of JRobs touches.  Naw, JRob still needs his touches.  You we just need to add some more for Travis
If he gets more touches, that means someone else gets less…..

JRob is declining as the year has gone on. (As the tweet explains). JRob is still useful sometimes but it’s clear ETN needs to be on the field more than JRob.
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#38
(This post was last modified: 10-19-2022, 08:15 PM by flgatorsandjags. Edited 1 time in total.)

(10-19-2022, 08:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(10-19-2022, 07:25 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Ooohh so you want to give him some of JRobs touches.  Naw, JRob still needs his touches.  You we just need to add some more for Travis
If he gets more touches, that means someone else gets less…..

JRob is declining as the year has gone on. (As the tweet explains). JRob is still useful sometimes but it’s clear ETN needs to be on the field more than JRob.

 Not if you just add more carries for ETN, JRob will still get his.  I think a big part of their success is both are staying fresh.  "JRob is declining"  lmao. He just turned 24, dude ain't declining lol
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#39

(10-19-2022, 08:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(10-19-2022, 07:25 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Ooohh so you want to give him some of JRobs touches.  Naw, JRob still needs his touches.  You we just need to add some more for Travis
If he gets more touches, that means someone else gets less…..

JRob is declining as the year has gone on. (As the tweet explains). JRob is still useful sometimes but it’s clear ETN needs to be on the field more than JRob.

They are used differently  

There's not enough sample to determine decline

Both are incredibly productive when employed well, but I'm all for giving more touches to the hot hand and right now it is ETN

Trying to make his good streak of play into a "Robinson is declining" assertion is a reach
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#40

(10-19-2022, 08:16 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(10-19-2022, 08:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: If he gets more touches, that means someone else gets less…..

JRob is declining as the year has gone on. (As the tweet explains). JRob is still useful sometimes but it’s clear ETN needs to be on the field more than JRob.

They are used differently  

There's not enough sample to determine decline

Both are incredibly productive when employed well, but I'm all for giving more touches to the hot hand and right now it is ETN

Trying to make his good streak of play into a "Robinson is declining" assertion is a reach

Thank you lol.  He has been a JRob hater since day 1
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