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This Political bondoggle really cost the Tax Payers

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San Francisco building single public toilet that will cost $1.7 million and won't be completed until 2025

The San Francisco parks department blamed the exorbitant price tag on skyrocketing construction costs, the permitting process and other fees

Local officials were set to gather on Wednesday in San Francisco's Noe Valley Town Square to celebrate their latest win: a single public toilet that will cost as much as $1.7 million to build and won't be completed until 2025. 
But the celebration was canceled after a San Francisco Chronicle columnist highlighted the "mind-boggling" and "maddening" details of the project. 
California Assemblyman Matt Haney told the newspaper that he now considers the price tag "inexplicable."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/san-francisco...leted-2025
Instead of a sign that says "Do Not Disturb" I need one that says "Already Disturbed Proceed With Caution."
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(This post was last modified: 10-20-2022, 12:30 PM by mikesez.)

Probably mostly related to the fact that the neighbors didn't want it there. So they demanded all sorts of studies and legal procedures. It's the worst coast. It's Nimbys all the way down.
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A spokesperson for the San Francisco Recreation and Parks Department told Fox News Digital that the exorbitantly high cost is due to "onerous demands and unpredictable costs levied by PG&E," construction costs that have skyrocketed 20% to 30% in the past two years, and employment of workers who are being paid a living wage with benefits.

"It’s also important to note that public projects and their overall cost estimates don’t just reflect the price of erecting structures,"  the spokesperson said. "They include the cost of planning, drawing, permits, reviews, public outreach and construction management."


The of building anything incurs these costs and they're not cheap. Planning, drawing permits, inspections and such all cost money whether it's a public or private structure. CA is ridiculous for their building codes. 

I watched a home reno show recently where an older house was being renovated and the county was requiring insulation under the house at the floor joists to "keep the AC from coming on as much," according to the contractor. They also require a specific roofing shingle to be used if you're using a dark colored asphalt shingle for the same reason. These things cost a lot more and can be a financial burden on the homebuyer. 

Maybe this will shed light on just how stupid expensive most of these codes and the whole process in general is and something is done. Or, people will just keep voting the way they do and price themselves right into homelessness.

And by "public toilet" I hope they mean public bathroom. $1.7M is still expensive for a bathroom but a single toilet? That's ridiculous.
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(10-20-2022, 01:08 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: A spokesperson for the San Francisco Recreation and Parks Department told Fox News Digital that the exorbitantly high cost is due to "onerous demands and unpredictable costs levied by PG&E," construction costs that have skyrocketed 20% to 30% in the past two years, and employment of workers who are being paid a living wage with benefits.

"It’s also important to note that public projects and their overall cost estimates don’t just reflect the price of erecting structures,"  the spokesperson said. "They include the cost of planning, drawing, permits, reviews, public outreach and construction management."


The of building anything incurs these costs and they're not cheap. Planning, drawing permits, inspections and such all cost money whether it's a public or private structure. CA is ridiculous for their building codes. 

I watched a home reno show recently where an older house was being renovated and the county was requiring insulation under the house at the floor joists to "keep the AC from coming on as much," according to the contractor. They also require a specific roofing shingle to be used if you're using a dark colored asphalt shingle for the same reason. These things cost a lot more and can be a financial burden on the homebuyer. 

Maybe this will shed light on just how stupid expensive most of these codes and the whole process in general is and something is done. Or, people will just keep voting the way they do and price themselves right into homelessness.

And by "public toilet" I hope they mean public bathroom. $1.7M is still expensive for a bathroom but a single toilet? That's ridiculous.

Everything in CA is designed to limit housing stock and increase home values for incumbent homeowners.
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It's designed to screw people over.
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(10-20-2022, 11:05 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: It's designed to screw people over.

It doesn't screw everyone over.  
If there wasn't a large number of people thinking they benefit from the system, they would change it.
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(10-21-2022, 07:24 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(10-20-2022, 11:05 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: It's designed to screw people over.

It doesn't screw everyone over.  
If there wasn't a large number of people thinking they benefit from the system, they would change it.

I don't know.....people are pretty dumb.
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Lol. You're so naive.
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