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Rumor: Josh Allen Trade Interest?

#61

Josh Allen stole caldrics girl lol. Only reason to explain the hate.

He’s a good not great player with blue chip potential on a roster that doesn’t have enough of either. Letting him leave would be moronic without multiple first rounders and even then I wouldn’t do it.
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#62

(10-27-2022, 01:05 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: Jets have offered to trade us James Robinson in exchange for Josh Allen and a 6th round draft pick.

That would be the most becauseJaguars move in history. Opening up the position for Chaison and Jordan Smith.
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#63

(10-27-2022, 06:12 PM)NoShoes Wrote: Josh Allen stole caldrics girl lol. Only reason to explain the hate.

He’s a good not great player with blue chip potential on a roster that doesn’t have enough of either. Letting him leave would be moronic without multiple first rounders and even then I wouldn’t do it.
It's not hate. It's business and realism being factored in here. Blue Chip players are not what you're looking for when you invest a 7th overall selection on them. You're looking for consistency and multiple games with clear impact being showcased.

He's living up to the homerism hype on here and not the actual metrics. I am not getting swept up in any of that. I just think if the offer is right? You have to take it.

When you tie up large portions of your cap percentages on one specific player? You end up paying the price elsewhere. Right now the attention is on Lawrence, your generational QB, and Doug, your offensive minded headcoach.

The aim should be to build around those two minds and let the defense feed off the offense building and establishing leads. The Chiefs shipped Hill off and yeah, Mahomes is doing enough to win games but they are missing that threat still. That's why they just forked a 3rd and 6th RD pick over today for Toney from the Giants.

Why did they trade Hill? Because they had too much tied up between Frank Clark and Chris Jones defensively. Two guys that have little impact on that teams success overall. They have been in a lot of close games this year. Barely winning two of them. Not because of Clark and Jones getting it done defensively but because Mahomes bailing them out offensively.

We need to retool our way of thinking. The defense had all of the attention in this off season. The goal was to build around Allen. He has not shown any true benefit of these investments in seven games. We need to get better at scoring points if this Blue Chip pass rusher can't show up in crunch time. The pass rush has been non existent and the points surrendered in the 4th quarter in closely contested games is indicative enough of this.

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#64
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2022, 06:52 PM by flgatorsandjags. Edited 1 time in total.)

(10-27-2022, 06:37 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(10-27-2022, 06:12 PM)NoShoes Wrote: Josh Allen stole caldrics girl lol. Only reason to explain the hate.

He’s a good not great player with blue chip potential on a roster that doesn’t have enough of either. Letting him leave would be moronic without multiple first rounders and even then I wouldn’t do it.
It's not hate. It's business and realism being factored in here. Blue Chip players are not what you're looking for when you invest a 7th overall selection on them. You're looking for consistency and multiple games with clear impact being showcased.

He's living up to the homerism hype on here and not the actual metrics. I am not getting swept up in any of that. I just think if the offer is right? You have to take it.

When you tie up large portions of your cap percentages on one specific player? You end up paying the price elsewhere. Right now the attention is on Lawrence, your generational QB, and Doug, your offensive minded headcoach.

The aim should be to build around those two minds and let the defense feed off the offense building and establishing leads. The Chiefs shipped Hill off and yeah, Mahomes is doing enough to win games but they are missing that threat still. That's why they just forked a 3rd and 6th RD pick over today for Toney from the Giants.

Why did they trade Hill? Because they had too much tied up between Frank Clark and Chris Jones defensively. Two guys that have little impact on that teams success overall. They have been in a lot of close games this year. Barely winning two of them. Not because of Clark and Jones getting it done defensively but because Mahomes bailing them out offensively.

We need to retool our way of thinking. The defense had all of the attention in this off season. The goal was to build around Allen. He has not shown any true benefit of these investments in seven games. We need to get better at scoring points if this Blue Chip pass rusher can't show up in crunch time. The pass rush has been non existent and the points surrendered in the 4th quarter in closely contested games is indicative enough of this.

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[BLEEP]?  lol  When Jones went down last year they had the worst D in the league.  The Chiefs have had a number of close game this year if they didnt have either of them they would of a couple more losses.  Both are huge to the Chiefs success especially Jones.  Clark was the missing piece to get the a SB vicorty a couple years ago. 2 game changing defenders especially Jones. If Jones keeps up his elite play he will likely be a HOF
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#65

(10-27-2022, 06:50 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(10-27-2022, 06:37 PM)Caldrac Wrote: It's not hate. It's business and realism being factored in here. Blue Chip players are not what you're looking for when you invest a 7th overall selection on them. You're looking for consistency and multiple games with clear impact being showcased.

He's living up to the homerism hype on here and not the actual metrics. I am not getting swept up in any of that. I just think if the offer is right? You have to take it.

When you tie up large portions of your cap percentages on one specific player? You end up paying the price elsewhere. Right now the attention is on Lawrence, your generational QB, and Doug, your offensive minded headcoach.

The aim should be to build around those two minds and let the defense feed off the offense building and establishing leads. The Chiefs shipped Hill off and yeah, Mahomes is doing enough to win games but they are missing that threat still. That's why they just forked a 3rd and 6th RD pick over today for Toney from the Giants.

Why did they trade Hill? Because they had too much tied up between Frank Clark and Chris Jones defensively. Two guys that have little impact on that teams success overall. They have been in a lot of close games this year. Barely winning two of them. Not because of Clark and Jones getting it done defensively but because Mahomes bailing them out offensively.

We need to retool our way of thinking. The defense had all of the attention in this off season. The goal was to build around Allen. He has not shown any true benefit of these investments in seven games. We need to get better at scoring points if this Blue Chip pass rusher can't show up in crunch time. The pass rush has been non existent and the points surrendered in the 4th quarter in closely contested games is indicative enough of this.

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[BLEEP]?  lol  When Jones went down last year they had the worst D in the league.  The Chiefs have had a number of close game this year if they didnt have either of them they would of a couple more losses.  Both are huge to the Chiefs success especially Jones.  Clark was the missing piece to get the a SB vicorty a couple years ago. 2 game changing defenders especially Jones. If Jones keeps up his elite play he will likely be a HOF
Really? Pretty sure it was Mahomes bailing them out last year against the Bills.

That same defense couldn't get Burrow burried enough in the AFCC game neither.

I bet if you ask any Chiefs fan right now, after how this year has gone so far, they would take Hill over Clark and Jones.

Especially after giving up a 3rd RD and 6th RD pick today to try and get some more speed back on offense.

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#66

Hill changes the entire game.

Not many receivers can say that.
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#67

Lets be real about Josh Allen.

He is a Solid Player. I kind of hesitate to call him good. He has NOT PROVEN to be a consistent pass rusher since his rookie year. If the right price comes along, take it!
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#68

(10-27-2022, 07:02 PM)Caldrac Wrote:
(10-27-2022, 06:50 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [BLEEP]?  lol  When Jones went down last year they had the worst D in the league.  The Chiefs have had a number of close game this year if they didnt have either of them they would of a couple more losses.  Both are huge to the Chiefs success especially Jones.  Clark was the missing piece to get the a SB vicorty a couple years ago.  2 game changing defenders especially Jones.  If Jones keeps up his elite play he will likely be a HOF
Really? Pretty sure it was Mahomes bailing them out last year against the Bills.

That same defense couldn't get Burrow burried enough in the AFCC game neither.

I bet if you ask any Chiefs fan right now, after how this year has gone so far, they would take Hill over Clark and Jones.

Especially after giving up a 3rd RD and 6th RD pick today to try and get some more speed back on offense.

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Hill is a HOF and has been one of the best WRs in the league for years.  With that said Jones is very important to that Chiefs team and if he goes down they don't stand a chance, same with Kelce
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#69

Trading him would be stupid, but of course stupid is what this franchise does best. Don't make a bad Defense even weaker.

They exercised his 5th year option, so it's not like he'll be a FA at the end of the year. Try to sign him to a team friendly deal this off season. If not, let him see if he can cash in his own bag on the 5th year option.
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#70

The main issue is he is a beta pass rusher. He needs a dominant guy on the other side. Walker is still Raw so can't really compliment him yet.
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#71

For themoney he's going to want, he'd have to improve his third down passer rating and cut down on his interceptions.

Take the picks. That's life with the cap.
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#72

(10-27-2022, 08:02 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Trading him would be stupid, but of course stupid is what this franchise does best. Don't make a bad Defense even weaker.

They exercised his 5th year option, so it's not like he'll be a FA at the end of the year. Try to sign him to a team friendly deal this off season. If not, let him see if he can cash in his own bag on the 5th year option.

This.  I still don't trust Baalke to make good picks with whatever he gets so just see what happens this year and next
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#73
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2022, 08:56 PM by jessepeck1213.)

Josh allen is our best defensive player. Makes zero sense to trade him unless we get 2 firsts.
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#74

(10-27-2022, 08:56 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: Josh allen is our best defensive player. Makes zero sense to trade him unless we get 2 firsts.

Do you get two 1sts for Allen?

Spoiler alert!
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#75

I'd trade Josh for a good pass blocking offensive lineman and a mid round pick. But I don't think anyone will offer that.
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#76

(10-27-2022, 08:56 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: Josh allen is our best defensive player. Makes zero sense to trade him unless we get 2 firsts.

No chance in Hell.  He's underperformed as a 1st round pick.  That means you won't even get a straight up 1st for him, never mind two.
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#77

Maybe Allen’s agent called the radio station and said there is interest, trying to drum up some interest himself. Tough to say. These rumours are always untrustworthy because you don’t know why someone is spreading them.
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#78

Yea defindtly a option

Agents doing a dodgy one , generating media intrest to get allen more money
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#79

Just because a player isn’t great doesn’t mean you have to get rid of them, he is the only man on the roster with any ability to pass rush yes he may not be the man who gets 15 sacks a year but if you don’t keep good solid players all you are ever doing is filling holes you’re creating at some point you have to fill other holes and be happy with good solid players in other positions .
I would need two first round picks this year to even consider letting Josh go!
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#80

(10-28-2022, 05:53 AM)Craigukjag Wrote: Just because a player isn’t great doesn’t mean you have to get rid of them, he is the only man on the roster with any ability to pass rush yes he may not be the man who gets 15 sacks a year but if you don’t keep good solid players all you are ever doing is filling holes you’re creating at some point you have to fill other holes and be happy with good solid players in other positions .
I would need two first round picks this year to even consider letting Josh go!

You'd need to know how extension talks are going and the money involved. Yes you don't want to let good players go but you can't afford to pay non elite players elite money. I'd trade him for a first probably and for 2 firsts without thinking.
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