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321 vs Ravens Round 12.

#21

Hard to name only 3-2-1, so:

3.0 Trevor Lawrence ...129 rating and many ridiculously hard throws in pressure situations.
3.1 Foye Oluokun ...18 tackles and 2 TFL, the guy was everywhere.
2.0 Zay Jones ...11 catches for 145 yards, the guy was getting open consistently and hands were money.
1.0 Jamal Agnew ...critical 5 catches on 5 targets for a WR4/5, Ravens would not kick him the ball all day.
1.1 Logan Cooke ...3 punts with a 68.7 yard average (and one to the 1 yard line).
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#22

3 Trevor

2 Zay Jones

1- Agnew
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#23

oh also an extra 3 points to jaxon deville, legend.
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#24

(11-28-2022, 02:14 PM)ATLjag Wrote: Hard to name only 3-2-1, so:

3.0 Trevor Lawrence  ...129 rating and many ridiculously hard throws in pressure situations.
3.1 Foye Oluokun ...18 tackles and 2 TFL, the guy was everywhere.
2.0 Zay Jones ...11 catches for 145 yards, the guy was getting open consistently and hands were money.
1.0 Jamal Agnew ...critical 5 catches on 5 targets for a WR4/5, Ravens would not kick him the ball all day.
1.1 Logan Cooke ...3 punts with a 68.7 yard average (and one to the 1 yard line).

Yea shoutout to Logan ay

Been a absolute legend this year with his punts


Patterson however very Hit and miss, nearly cost us that game with that kick off at the end
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#25

(11-28-2022, 04:49 PM)StrayaJag Wrote:
(11-28-2022, 02:14 PM)ATLjag Wrote: Hard to name only 3-2-1, so:

3.0 Trevor Lawrence  ...129 rating and many ridiculously hard throws in pressure situations.
3.1 Foye Oluokun ...18 tackles and 2 TFL, the guy was everywhere.
2.0 Zay Jones ...11 catches for 145 yards, the guy was getting open consistently and hands were money.
1.0 Jamal Agnew ...critical 5 catches on 5 targets for a WR4/5, Ravens would not kick him the ball all day.
1.1 Logan Cooke ...3 punts with a 68.7 yard average (and one to the 1 yard line).

Yea shoutout to Logan ay

Been a absolute legend this year with his punts


Patterson however very Hit and miss, nearly cost us that game with that kick off at the end

Intentional squib kick designed to get the ball to someone other than a returner and ostensibly eat a few more seconds of clock.

Patterson is free of any blame there.
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#26

(11-28-2022, 05:38 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(11-28-2022, 04:49 PM)StrayaJag Wrote: Yea shoutout to Logan ay

Been a absolute legend this year with his punts


Patterson however very Hit and miss, nearly cost us that game with that kick off at the end

Intentional squib kick designed to get the ball to someone other than a returner and ostensibly eat a few more seconds of clock.

Patterson is free of any blame there.

Can't stand squib kicks when the opposing team only needs a field goal.
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#27

(11-28-2022, 05:58 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(11-28-2022, 05:38 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Intentional squib kick designed to get the ball to someone other than a returner and ostensibly eat a few more seconds of clock.

Patterson is free of any blame there.

Can't stand squib kicks when the opposing team only needs a field goal.

And coaches can't stand k.o. returns for TDs with 14 seconds on the clock. 
Works both ways. 
Lesser of two evils.
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#28

(11-28-2022, 06:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(11-28-2022, 05:58 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Can't stand squib kicks when the opposing team only needs a field goal.

And coaches can't stand k.o. returns for TDs with 14 seconds on the clock. 
Works both ways. 
Lesser of two evils.

Bury that [BLEEP] into the end zone and have them take the ball at the 25 with 14 left. That kick gave them an extra 15 yards and only killed 4 seconds. I wasn't a fan of it at all.
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#29

(11-28-2022, 06:28 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(11-28-2022, 06:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: And coaches can't stand k.o. returns for TDs with 14 seconds on the clock. 
Works both ways. 
Lesser of two evils.

Bury that [BLEEP] into the end zone and have them take the ball at the 25 with 14 left. That kick gave them an extra 15 yards and only killed 4 seconds. I wasn't a fan of it at all.

Double edged sword 

Give it to the returner and risk a return

Our kicker only has a 55% touchback percentage -  there is no guarantee of burying anything anywhere

(that's what she said)
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#30
(This post was last modified: 11-28-2022, 07:00 PM by Eric1. Edited 1 time in total.)

(11-28-2022, 06:35 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(11-28-2022, 06:28 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Bury that [BLEEP] into the end zone and have them take the ball at the 25 with 14 left. That kick gave them an extra 15 yards and only killed 4 seconds. I wasn't a fan of it at all.

Double edged sword 

Give it to the returner and risk a return

Our kicker only has a 55% touchback percentage -  there is no guarantee of burying anything anywhere

(that's what she said)

I'll take the risk that my kick coverage (that has been pretty good) will make the tackle if their returner decides to bring it out over giving the best kicker in the League an extra 15 yards.

Also as far as the touchback % goes, how do we know if that's scheme, or just not enough leg? They could purposely by trying to kick it right outside the endzone in hopes the coverage will get there and tackle him before the 25. Not saying that's the case, but it certainly is possible.
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#31

(11-28-2022, 06:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(11-28-2022, 05:58 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Can't stand squib kicks when the opposing team only needs a field goal.

And coaches can't stand k.o. returns for TDs with 14 seconds on the clock. 
Works both ways. 
Lesser of two evils.

While I understand the reasoning, I also think in this particular situation i'm more afraid of the NFL Record holder for longest FG in the history of the league over whomever they had returning kicks.
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#32

(11-28-2022, 06:59 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(11-28-2022, 06:35 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Double edged sword 

Give it to the returner and risk a return

Our kicker only has a 55% touchback percentage -  there is no guarantee of burying anything anywhere

(that's what she said)

I'll take the risk that my kick coverage (that has been pretty good) will make the tackle if their returner decides to bring it out over giving the best kicker in the League an extra 15 yards.

Also as far as the touchback % goes, how do we know if that's scheme, or just not enough leg? They could purposely by trying to kick it right outside the endzone in hopes the coverage will get there and tackle him before the 25. Not saying that's the case, but it certainly is possible.
It's both to be sure, but enough of it is his leg that they made this decision IMO.

Gotta factor wind in there too.
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#33
(This post was last modified: 11-29-2022, 09:34 AM by Mikey.)

(11-28-2022, 05:58 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(11-28-2022, 05:38 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Intentional squib kick designed to get the ball to someone other than a returner and ostensibly eat a few more seconds of clock.

Patterson is free of any blame there.

Can't stand squib kicks when the opposing team only needs a field goal.

pick your poison. Kick it deep, fair catch, risk a kick OB, no time off clock, or worse, risk a potential deep runback. Give Lamar a few more seconds to run another deep bomb, or nibble into FG range with 2-3 plays
or
squib it to a reserve linebacker, who 1) cannot fair catch 2) has suspect hands 3) may scramble for 6-7 yards after receiving the kick and eats up a play's worth of time.

It's all chess. The drive before, Lamar hit Desean for what, 60 yds? Gimme the chance at a dude bumbling around a wobbly ball and potentially running time off the clock. It could have killed us just as easily as it didn't, but the other option was no less safe.

(11-28-2022, 06:28 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(11-28-2022, 06:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: And coaches can't stand k.o. returns for TDs with 14 seconds on the clock. 
Works both ways. 
Lesser of two evils.

Bury that [BLEEP] into the end zone and have them take the ball at the 25 with 14 left. That kick gave them an extra 15 yards and only killed 4 seconds. I wasn't a fan of it at all.

I watched a highlight reel over the weekend, and a few years back we boomed one right at the front line of blockers, doinked it off a dude's helmet, and caught it on the fly. THAT is a squib kick, baby!

The notion with the squib is that you get wonky bounces, chaos and unreliable handlers around the ball. We could have easily ended up with possession on that play, too. I don't want Lamar to have any other chances at a deep bomb to make Tucker's kick any easier than it was.

(11-28-2022, 06:59 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(11-28-2022, 06:35 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Double edged sword 

Give it to the returner and risk a return

Our kicker only has a 55% touchback percentage -  there is no guarantee of burying anything anywhere

(that's what she said)

I'll take the risk that my kick coverage (that has been pretty good) will make the tackle if their returner decides to bring it out over giving the best kicker in the League an extra 15 yards.

Also as far as the touchback % goes, how do we know if that's scheme, or just not enough leg? They could purposely by trying to kick it right outside the endzone in hopes the coverage will get there and tackle him before the 25. Not saying that's the case, but it certainly is possible.

what if he tries to boom the mess out of the ball, and it goes out of bounds at the 1? There's risk in every play.
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#34

here all this rounds results

Trevor 43
Zay Jones 29
Oloukon 8
Marvin Jones 2
Agnew 2
Wingard 1
Campbell 1
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#35

(12-04-2022, 04:09 AM)StrayaJag Wrote: here all this rounds results

Trevor       43
Zay Jones 29
Oloukon    8
Marvin Jones 2
Agnew          2
Wingard     1
Campbell 1

I feel like for next season, we should do 5 instead of 3. Cause guys who have played great like Campbell for example, get kinda shafted because he isn't getting numbers.
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#36

(11-28-2022, 06:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(11-28-2022, 05:58 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Can't stand squib kicks when the opposing team only needs a field goal.

And coaches can't stand k.o. returns for TDs with 14 seconds on the clock. 
Works both ways. 
Lesser of two evils.

100% I agree. Go back to the 1999 playoffs when the Buffalo Bills let the Music City Miracle happen. (Even though it was a forward pass).
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