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*** Official Game Thread - Week 13 Jags @ Loins***


I'll say it again...been saying it all season our defense is why we don't have a winning record right now.... everyone was blaming Trevor and the offense....this defense has played horrible at times... blowing leads in the fourth quarter....this game they just looked horrendous.... allowing the other team to score on literally every single drive....[BLEEP]
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(12-04-2022, 04:50 PM)Jerseyjag Wrote: The problem is the GM.  It always has been.  Our drafts are pathetic.  We will never win until he is gone...FIRE BAALKE

The problem has always been our first year GM?
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(12-04-2022, 04:55 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: I'll say it again...been saying it all season our defense is why we don't have a winning record right now.... everyone was blaming Trevor and the offense....this defense has played horrible at times... blowing leads in the fourth quarter....this game they just looked horrendous.... allowing the other team to score on literally every single drive....[BLEEP]

You are not wrong.

Can't wait to hear Caldwell's interview.

I should be happy that the Steelers won today...but this loss has ruined my day.
The Other Jag Forum: Duval Football Fans.

Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

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(12-04-2022, 04:55 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: I'll say it again...been saying it all season our defense is why we don't have a winning record right now.... everyone was blaming Trevor and the offense....this defense has played horrible at times... blowing leads in the fourth quarter....this game they just looked horrendous.... allowing the other team to score on literally every single drive....[BLEEP]

I agree but the bigger problem is do you trust Baalke to fix any of our problems?  I dont.  He just makes everything worse.
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(12-04-2022, 04:55 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: I'll say it again...been saying it all season our defense is why we don't have a winning record right now.... everyone was blaming Trevor and the offense....this defense has played horrible at times... blowing leads in the fourth quarter....this game they just looked horrendous.... allowing the other team to score on literally every single drive....[BLEEP]

No it's not. The D was [BLEEP] today but the O wasn't good enough to win a game.
O-line whiffs, dropped passes, fumbles and only 14 points.
Not good enough
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The Lions were the much better team today.
It’s on to the draft as this season is over.
Respect the game.  Play with a sense of urgency. 


1.)  Take care of the ball.  Win the turnover battle.

2.)  It's all about 3rd down.  Win on 3rd down to win the game.

3.) Playmakers make plays.  The only reason that you put your uniform on is to make plays. In order to EARN your paycheck, you must make plays.  

Learn from the great collapse of 2023.  
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(12-04-2022, 04:56 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-04-2022, 04:50 PM)Jerseyjag Wrote: The problem is the GM.  It always has been.  Our drafts are pathetic.  We will never win until he is gone...FIRE BAALKE

The problem has always been our first year GM?You mean 2nd year GM? And the GM who ran the 49ers into the ground? 

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(12-04-2022, 04:56 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-04-2022, 04:50 PM)Jerseyjag Wrote: The problem is the GM.  It always has been.  Our drafts are pathetic.  We will never win until he is gone...FIRE BAALKE

The problem has always been our first year GM?

2nd year
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(12-04-2022, 04:51 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Im glad we traded for ridley since this drafts gonna need to focus on defense now

Oh good, let's keep doing what we've done so well for a decade. That will make a difference!
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The entire team failed Trevor today.
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(12-04-2022, 05:00 PM)Roshambo Wrote:
(12-04-2022, 04:56 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: The problem has always been our first year GM?

You mean 2nd year for us  GM? And the GM who ran the 49ers into the ground?
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(12-04-2022, 05:00 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote:
(12-04-2022, 04:56 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: The problem has always been our first year GM?

2nd year

Meyer had compete control of personnel last year. You know this.
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(12-04-2022, 05:00 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-04-2022, 04:51 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Im glad we traded for ridley since this drafts gonna need to focus on defense now

Oh good, let's keep doing what we've done so well for a decade. That will make a difference!

Well what else would you do at this point? I'd be all for drafting offense early but there are some glarring holes on the defense, unless you suppose we could patch those holes in free agency?
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(12-04-2022, 04:51 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Im glad we traded for ridley since this drafts gonna need to focus on defense now

Do you trust them to fix the D in the draft? Walker/Lloyd 1st round. Better to trade those picks for veterans. Lets at least have 1 good year, ala the Rams.
"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption
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(12-04-2022, 05:00 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-04-2022, 04:51 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Im glad we traded for ridley since this drafts gonna need to focus on defense now

Oh good, let's keep doing what we've done so well for a decade. That will make a difference!

You mean drafting players in the first round based on their physical traits? 

I'm sure you remember the 'dangerous combination of speed and power' we drafted late 1st round about 5 years ago, don't you?
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(12-04-2022, 04:59 PM)WYjagsfan Wrote:
(12-04-2022, 04:55 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: I'll say it again...been saying it all season our defense is why we don't have a winning record right now.... everyone was blaming Trevor and the offense....this defense has played horrible at times... blowing leads in the fourth quarter....this game they just looked horrendous.... allowing the other team to score on literally every single drive....[BLEEP]

No it's not. The D was [BLEEP] today but the O wasn't good enough to win a game.
O-line whiffs, dropped passes, fumbles and only 14 points.
Not good enough

Hate to tell you this, but the offense has played well enough all season for the Jags to at least be a .500 team.

The consistently poor part of the team has been the defense.   You know, the one that couldn't stop the Texans, Broncos and Colts from mounting game winning drives. The defense that is currently averaging 1.5 sacks per game...and is only that high because of how the season started.

The offense was off today.  Yes.   But the defense has been figured out by other teams for 8 weeks now.  Don't let last week or the Raiders game fool you into thinking the defense isn't the biggest weakness.  It is.
The Other Jag Forum: Duval Football Fans.

Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

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(12-04-2022, 05:02 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(12-04-2022, 05:00 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Oh good, let's keep doing what we've done so well for a decade. That will make a difference!

Well what else would you do at this point? I'd be all for drafting offense early but there are some glarring holes on the defense, unless you suppose we could patch those holes in free agency?

You build the offense until no can stop them. Then you worry about defense.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(12-04-2022, 05:04 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-04-2022, 05:02 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Well what else would you do at this point? I'd be all for drafting offense early but there are some glarring holes on the defense, unless you suppose we could patch those holes in free agency?

You build the offense until no can stop them. Then you worry about defense.

Shame we didn't just take Sauce Gardner last year like I wanted, but I don't get paid millions to make the obvious picks.
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Just a bad day at the office all around today. No one had a good game today and dodged a bullet with Lawrence. The main frustration is coming a week after such a gutsy win you hoped that it would kick this team on but really frustrated with how flat we looked.

Credit to Detroit, they deserved the W today and didn't ease off on us.
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The Travon Walker pick alone is on Baalke … almost everyone knew he was a project… and to take him #1 overall… he has shown nothing to make anyone feel he can be anything other than an above average run defender.. 

Tyson Campbell is overrated by many but still better than anything we have .

First round pick on a linebacker Devon Lloyd so far no bueno and all the money spent on D line and secondary the past 2 free agencies is enough of a sample size to get rid of the joke of a GM we should never have kept in the first place and EVERYONE knew that except shad who seems determined to keep this franchise in the gutter. 

Hell the only two picks worth a damn have been Trevor and Etienne who by all accounts were made by the worst coach in franchise history…


So our current list of *****  should start with 

Kahn—- nothing we can do about that [BLEEP] 

Baalke— fire him should have never been hired

Caldwell- in over his head… should be gone tomorrow .
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