After today's loss it's obvious. Lawrence needs better pass protection. Lawrence needs a legitimate pass catching threat to open everything else up. The turnovers that plagued them early should go away next year but they still need a legitimate, commanding presence out there on the outside.

It's also obvious that Caldwell cannot coach this defense into a succesful unit with his first attempt at that role but it's even more obvious that Baalke has severely overvalued the defense over the last two years via the draft and free agency and it's the most glaring issue.

There's simply been a severe lack of impact, push, streakiness and consistency on defense in a positive way this year. That's a combination of lack of talent marrying a lack of experience in Caldwell.

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No it's not. The D was [BLEEP] today but the O wasn't good enough to win a game.
O-line whiffs, dropped passes, fumbles and only 14 points.
Not good enough

Hate to tell you this, but the offense has played well enough all season for the Jags to at least be a .500 team.

The consistently poor part of the team has been the defense.   You know, the one that couldn't stop the Texans, Broncos and Colts from mounting game winning drives.  The defense that is currently averaging 1.5 sacks per game...and is only that high because of how the season started. 

The offense was off today.  Yes.   But the defense has been figured out by other teams for 8 weeks now.  Don't let last week or the Raiders game fool you into thinking the defense isn't the biggest weakness.  It is.

Exactly what I've been saying all season

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No it's not. The D was [BLEEP] today but the O wasn't good enough to win a game.
O-line whiffs, dropped passes, fumbles and only 14 points.
Not good enough

Wrong the o line pretty much did their job You can't expect a game with zero sacks... Drop passes and fumbles have nothing to do with the o line... Are you seriously trying to blame this on offense when Detroit literally scored on every single possession they had

I'm not saying that. This loss is on the D but the offence scored 14 points with numerous mistakes.
That won't win many games in the NFL

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Hate to tell you this, but the offense has played well enough all season for the Jags to at least be a .500 team.

The consistently poor part of the team has been the defense.   You know, the one that couldn't stop the Texans, Broncos and Colts from mounting game winning drives.

The offense was off today.  Yes.   But the defense has been figured out by other teams for 8 weeks now.  Don't let last week or the Raiders game fool you into thinking the defense isn't the biggest weakness.  It is.

IDK in 5 out of 8 losses we haven't scored 20 points.
Today we only managed 14 and against the Texans only 6.
The offence is better than the defence but good enough to be better than 500 is pushing it IMO

I think you need to go back and look at the games where we had the lead late in the 4th quarter and what part of the team blew that lead.... I don't care if you score 6 points 10 points 40 points You have the lead late in the fourth quarter and the defense blows it every single time those losses are in fact on the defense

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I've defended the defense a bunch this year, but theres no defending this performance that was awful.

Yeah you wanted to blame Trevor every time when it was blatant it was the defense that was the weak link

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IDK in 5 out of 8 losses we haven't scored 20 points.
Today we only managed 14 and against the Texans only 6.
The offence is better than the defence but good enough to be better than 500 is pushing it IMO

I think you need to go back and look at the games where we had the lead late in the 4th quarter and what part of the team blew that lead.... I don't care if you score 6 points 10 points 40 points You have the lead late in the fourth quarter and the defense blows it every single time those losses are in fact on the defense

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I've defended the defense a bunch this year, but theres no defending this performance that was awful.

Yeah you wanted to blame Trevor every time when it was blatant it was the defense that was the weak link

We lost to the eagles by 1 score. Trevor gave the ball away 5 times. He lost that game, undebatable.

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IDK in 5 out of 8 losses we haven't scored 20 points.
Today we only managed 14 and against the Texans only 6.
The offence is better than the defence but good enough to be better than 500 is pushing it IMO

I think you need to go back and look at the games where we had the lead late in the 4th quarter and what part of the team blew that lead.... I don't care if you score 6 points 10 points 40 points You have the lead late in the fourth quarter and the defense blows it every single time those losses are in fact on the defense

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I've defended the defense a bunch this year, but theres no defending this performance that was awful.

Yeah you wanted to blame Trevor every time when it was blatant it was the defense that was the weak link

Trevor had some sketchy games early on, no one should be beyond criticism if they're not playing as well as they should.

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I think you need to go back and look at the games where we had the lead late in the 4th quarter and what part of the team blew that lead.... I don't care if you score 6 points 10 points 40 points You have the lead late in the fourth quarter and the defense blows it every single time those losses are in fact on the defense

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Yeah you wanted to blame Trevor every time when it was blatant it was the defense that was the weak link

We lost to the eagles by 1 score. Trevor gave the ball away 5 times. He lost that game, undebatable.

Yeah you picked the one game that was played in a hurricane.... And with those five turnaways Trevor was the player who put us within that one score.... With all those turnovers it was Trevor who put us within one score.... It was the offense that kept us in that game regardless of what happened.... Now go do some more homework and look at the other games where Trevor came down and took the lead late in the 4th quarter to have the defense blow it....

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We lost to the eagles by 1 score. Trevor gave the ball away 5 times. He lost that game, undebatable.

Yeah you picked the one game that was played in a hurricane.... And with those five turnaways Trevor was the player who put us within that one score.... With all those turnovers it was Trevor who put us within one score.... It was the offense that kept us in that game regardless of what happened.... Now go do some more homework and look at the other games where Trevor came down and took the lead late in the 4th quarter to have the defense b

It was actually the defence that kept us in some of the early games when the O was really struggling.
Taht just made it even worse when the offence gave them the lead and they collapsed like a house of cards on the final drive

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We lost to the eagles by 1 score. Trevor gave the ball away 5 times. He lost that game, undebatable.

Yeah you picked the one game that was played in a hurricane.... And with those five turnaways Trevor was the player who put us within that one score.... With all those turnovers it was Trevor who put us within one score.... It was the offense that kept us in that game regardless of what happened.... Now go do some more homework and look at the other games where Trevor came down and took the lead late in the 4th quarter to have the defense blow it....

Less often than he blew it. Hes been good for 3 weeks, prior he was 10 td 11 turnovers and just as much of a reason as any that we lost

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Wrong the o line pretty much did their job You can't expect a game with zero sacks... Drop passes and fumbles have nothing to do with the o line... Are you seriously trying to blame this on offense when Detroit literally scored on every single possession they had

I'm not saying that. This loss is on the D but the offence scored 14 points with numerous mistakes.
That won't win many games in the NFL

This.

14 points is just horrid in todays league.

Sure the defense was trash but so was the offense and thats starts with the most important player leading them...

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Today proved how overall bad Baalke’s roster is and we’re gonna be tight on the cap next year. And khan will once again stay loyal to the snake. So basically, more losing seasons ahead

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I'm not saying that. This loss is on the D but the offence scored 14 points with numerous mistakes.
That won't win many games in the NFL

This.

14 points is just horrid in todays league.

Sure the defense was trash but so was the offense and thats starts with the most important player leading them...

Today proved how overall bad Baalke’s roster is and we’re gonna be tight on the cap next year. And khan will once again stay loyal to the snake. So basically, more losing seasons ahead

Fumble early and multiple drops on offense today. Agreed. With that said. Defense couldnt stop anything. Everything the Lions did today was good enough to land a FG or TD.

Agreed with Baalke. Two years in. Two years heavily invested on defense. Not impressed. Today was the back breaker for me. Whether it's Caldwell. Whether it's Baalke. Whether it's both. Which, often times it is. Somebody needs to answer for this.

Premium picks on defense. Premium cap space tied up on defense. Defense gets routinely schooled quarter by quarter and it's not even [BLEEP] close.

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They scored on every bloody drive

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Reading out minds Trevor, reading our minds....

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Yeah the biggest thing that came out of today is Trevor survived the injury scare. I’ll take a loss and a healthy Trevor over a win and an injury any day.

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Lawrence just needs to start chewing some [BLEEP] on the sidelines.

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I do want Baalke to go, and I do want to bring in an all new defensive coaching staff.
But I don't want to put any more premium picks or high priced free agents into the D.
Every singe resource has to go into fixing the pass blocking and the receiving. I want Trevor to have a chance to become that top 5 QB. Build the D after we see that result.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

U cant blame this on Lawrence

He was our best player on the field in that gsme considering the Swiss cheese of a Oline he had to deal with + recievers who seem to love wearing butter and grease gloves

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This is the first time I didnt finish a game. I fell asleep and missed the second half. I wake up and see the 40 slugs. Sheesh smh

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The defense was just total garbage. To allow a team to score on every single possession at the professional level is truly pathetic.

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I'll say it again...been saying it all season our defense is why we don't have a winning record right now.... everyone was blaming Trevor and the offense....this defense has played horrible at times... blowing leads in the fourth quarter....this game they just looked horrendous.... allowing the other team to score on literally every single drive....[BLEEP]

Agree with this comment earlier. Offense has sputtered at times, but the defense has been truly awful since the eagles game .

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