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*** Official Game Thread - Week 16 Jags @ jests ***


Smoot just came out of the locker room on crutches during Lawrence's post game interview.
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(This post was last modified: 12-23-2022, 01:04 AM by rpr52121. Edited 1 time in total.)

(12-23-2022, 12:42 AM)Kane Wrote:
(12-23-2022, 12:39 AM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: Soooo, feeling a lot like 1996 in here. Hope we finish out 9-8 and make noise in the playoffs.

Man..... I'd love it if Jags and Lions both make runs.

What A SB that would be no one anywhere picked.

(12-23-2022, 12:41 AM)rpr52121 Wrote: Is it just me or have there been a dramatic increase of Achilles injuries in professional sports in the past 5 years or so?

I never remember hearing of them before, and it doesn't seem to be something that is hard to diagnosis like a Lisfranc.

I know there is an increase in both ACL and Tommy John injuries in younger athletes like high school and college over the past 15-20 years.

Is that what happened to Smoot? That's what it looked like

The step and collapse was weird. Too far away to tell from the prime vision replay. Could just be bad ankle sprain. Will probably depend on the MRI.

EDIT: On few replay rewatches now, it does look more like Achilles.
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Smoot just walked behind Trevor during TNF interview on Prime. He was on crutches. Yikes.
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(12-23-2022, 12:47 AM)nejagsfan Wrote:
(12-23-2022, 12:30 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: You’re all over the place.  I think you confused tacks and tinhorns from the initial post you responded to. And the final week of the season is week 18 not 17.

We don’t have to beat houston if tacks lose a game.  It comes down to the week 18 game against Tennessee for the division and a home playoff game.  If tacks lose Saturday, the game against Houston for us next week is indisputably meaningless for us aside from needing to break their streak over us.  Only week 18 matters.  Do the math.  If we lose to tinhorns but beat tacks we end up 8-9.  If tacks lose to either to Houston or Dallas and also to us they also wind up 8-9.  We win division on head to head tie breaker since we swept them in this scenario.

Sorry I said week 17 ment 18.... I get what you're saying now Yes if Titans lose the Houston this weekend then technically next weekend doesn't matter... But I wouldn't rest anybody were playing hot You know what happens to first round by teams in the playoffs their track record just and all that good

Yeah I’m not saying don’t try to win and to rest everyone.  I agree with trying to win and keeping the momentum going, but I might pull guys in the 3rd quarter or at half time.  But regardless of all of that, if Tennessee loses on Saturday and we lose for whatever to the tinhorns next week, it will not have mattered regarding playoff implications.  Week 18 will almost certainly be a de facto playoff game against the tacks.
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Had no idea Foye had a clothing line. My wallet is about to get lighter...

That is the sweatshirt that Trevor is wearing.

https://www.foyeoluokun.com/

(12-23-2022, 12:54 AM)Rockman1966 Wrote: Smoot just walked behind Trevor during TNF interview on Prime.  He was on crutches.  Yikes.

Crutches are expected no matter what to keep all pressure off it. Doesn't help tell what injury it is.

Doubt he is back for Texans though even with the mini bye week.
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(12-23-2022, 12:54 AM)Rockman1966 Wrote: Smoot just walked behind Trevor during TNF interview on Prime.  He was on crutches.  Yikes.

When the replay showed him grasp at the foot area and then he did the one foot hop off the field I was pretty sure it was an achillies.
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(12-23-2022, 12:50 AM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: The first time since 2017 the Jaguars have won 3 in a row.
Do not forget this :

https://youtu.be/z22TrcDD5y4

Can we stop with reposting this? It's over now, and anyone following the NFL for a while knows that Chris Simms is a poor analyst.
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Where's that coward ozjohnnie to tell us how wilson is better than lawrence?
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(12-23-2022, 01:11 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: Where's that coward ozjohnnie to tell us how wilson is better than lawrence?

I was never one to join the torch and pitch fork crowd that manifested around here on the regular for the heads of coaches and GMs, but we need to round up a posse and bring him in.
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Okay so there are a few studies on Achilles repairs for NFL players. DL actually have a higher success rate of returning to the NFL than many other positions. But the median recovery is longer and closer to 1 year than like 10 months for some others. So, conservatively, if that is the injury then Smoot is done for both 22 and 23. So he would be likely coming back for in 24 at 29 yo.
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(12-23-2022, 01:28 AM)rpr52121 Wrote: Okay so there are a few studies on Achilles repairs for NFL players. DL actually have a higher success rate of returning to the NFL than many other positions. But the median recovery is longer and closer to 1 year than like 10 months for some others. So, conservatively, if that is the injury then Smoot is done for both 22 and 23. So he would be likely coming back for in 24 at 29 yo.

If that’s what it winds up being…. Just brutal for a guy who is an UFA this off-season.
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Bad timing for Smoot. Not sure what the coaches were thinking leaving all the starters in there until the last 2 minutes. That being said, Wingard was the only one that looked like he wanted to tackle that random QB that came in and was fixing to lead a comeback on us.
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(12-23-2022, 01:34 AM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: Bad timing for Smoot.  Not sure what the coaches were thinking leaving all the starters in there until the last 2 minutes.  That being said,  Wingard was the only one that looked like he wanted to tackle that random QB that came in and was fixing to lead a comeback on us.

1. With a 46 man active roster, you can't bench all your starters.
2. It was a non-contact injury.
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All in a days work
https://twitter.com/ESPNdirocco/status/1...3646860288
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Welp we know who to blame for Riley missing that kick...
https://twitter.com/GeneFrenette/status/...4878789632
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Regarding the Smoot injury, it looks like they will need to look at other teams Practice squads to find a guy no matter what for the next few weeks.

Gotsis may be able to fill in for few snaps, but not a lot. I don't know enough about NIck Thurman on PS to know if he can fit that role. Unless this gives Caldwell more reason to try Travon there, who will hopefully be healthy after the mini bye.
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Why cant Loyd play smoots spot? Sorry if I'm being a little ignorant on this question. Chassion is not the answer lol
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(12-23-2022, 08:51 AM)Jag88 Wrote: Why cant Loyd play smoots spot? Sorry if I'm being a little ignorant on this question. Chassion is not the answer lol

If I'm not mistaken Lloyd is only around 230 lbs. That's smaller than Yannick.
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(12-23-2022, 01:14 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(12-23-2022, 01:11 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: Where's that coward ozjohnnie to tell us how wilson is better than lawrence?

I was never one to join the torch and pitch fork crowd that manifested around here on the regular for the heads of coaches and GMs, but we need to round up a posse and bring him in.

I second this
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(12-23-2022, 09:19 AM)Mandeezee Wrote:
(12-23-2022, 08:51 AM)Jag88 Wrote: Why cant Loyd play smoots spot? Sorry if I'm being a little ignorant on this question. Chassion is not the answer lol

If I'm not mistaken Lloyd is only around 230 lbs. That's smaller than Yannick.

Yeah. He's a little too light in the [BLEEP] to hold that down. However, if we get Travon Walker back and he's ready to go we should honestly be fine during these final two weeks. Same goes for Fatukasi.

Again, as long as we're putting up points offensively I think we're in every contest with Lawrence. That loss in Detroit was a reality check for this team. They haven't looked back since really.

We'll see what happens. Even in games where it fees like we should come out on top I still get nervous. One game at a time as they say.
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