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Way Too Early - Way Too Bored - 2023 Mock Draft
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(12-26-2022, 08:12 AM)Caldrac Wrote: New run:Would be thrilled with these first two picks. Cam Smith follows in a long line of quality So. Caro. CBs dating back to Dunta Robinson. He's very scrappy when it comes to the ball and constantly fights to prevent the catch. Isn't afraid to run support. I see Washington as similar in build and athleticism to Jelani Woods. He could be the true Y and give us more formation flexibility and better run blocking at that spot. I don't think Arnold offers the blocking/bulk that Washington offers, and Manhertz does not provide the receiving threat that Washington does. I would strongly urge we still keep Engram even if we were to draft Washington or any other TE. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
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12-29-2022, 05:45 PM
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(12-29-2022, 05:36 PM)Bullseye Wrote:(12-26-2022, 08:12 AM)Caldrac Wrote: New run:Would be thrilled with these first two picks. I'm a bit higher on Joey Porter Jr. and his tools at CB tbh and that is who I would take if we take a CB in the first round. But Smith is very good in his own right, so would be good with him also. Think at least one of them will fall to us(Though would not be stunned if Porter goes in the top 15 or even top 10 for that matter).
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Tar Heel Jags Fan (12-29-2022, 05:45 PM)Butters Wrote:(12-29-2022, 05:36 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Would be thrilled with these first two picks. Make no mistake, I like Joey Porter Jr. Even though Penn State historically has produced lousy DBs, Porter is the best CB to ever come out of Penn State. Big, physical, has good length and bloodlines. Had my eye on him just about all season long. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
(12-29-2022, 05:45 PM)Butters Wrote:I don't think he will be there when we pick(12-29-2022, 05:36 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Would be thrilled with these first two picks. (12-29-2022, 05:27 PM)Bullseye Wrote:I believe he has only played guard, not tackle. He started at left guard, but has spent most of his time at right guard. Phil Rauscher has done a very good job as offensive line coach and I'm sure he will find the best combination. No doubt, a more versatile lineman like Skoronski would be preferable but he'll be gone before the Jags pick.(12-29-2022, 12:47 AM)jaglou53 Wrote: Just completed my first mock on Fanspeak: We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (12-29-2022, 07:40 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:WHo?(12-29-2022, 05:45 PM)Butters Wrote: I'm a bit higher on Joey Porter Jr. and his tools at CB tbh and that is who I would take if we take a CB in the first round. But Smith is very good in his own right, so would be good with him also. Think at least one of them will fall to us(Though would not be stunned if Porter goes in the top 15 or even top 10 for that matter).I don't think he will be there when we pick Porter? Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
12-30-2022, 01:55 PM
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(12-29-2022, 08:18 PM)Bullseye Wrote:(12-29-2022, 07:40 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I don't think he will be there when we pickWHo? Yes, Porter. I dont think he will be there when we pick. I think he will be the first corner selected (12-29-2022, 08:09 PM)jaglou53 Wrote:(12-29-2022, 05:27 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Would you draft Torrencce with the idea of moving Scherrf to LG and putting Torrence at RG, or plugging him in at RG?I believe he has only played guard, not tackle. He started at left guard, but has spent most of his time at right guard. Phil Rauscher has done a very good job as offensive line coach and I'm sure he will find the best combination. No doubt, a more versatile lineman like Skoronski would be preferable but he'll be gone before the Jags pick. I guy like Cooper Beebe? He played LT last year and was a First team All American at LG this year. Hes also played RG and RT. Has good size and is a good run blocker and pass blocker. (12-30-2022, 01:55 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:Beebe definitely would be a possibility as would Andrew Vorhees from USC. The advantage for both is they do have more versatility than Torrance and there's a good chance one will be available in the 2nd round. That would enable them to take a pass rusher with the first pick. I feel like that will be the team's number 1 need going into next season. Jared Verse looked very good last night, but Oklahoma did not have their top linemen like Anton Harrison for this game.(12-29-2022, 08:18 PM)Bullseye Wrote: WHo? (12-30-2022, 06:21 PM)jaglou53 Wrote:(12-30-2022, 01:55 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Yes, Porter. I dont think he will be there when we pick. I think he will be the first corner selectedBeebe definitely would be a possibility as would Andrew Vorhees from USC. The advantage for both is they do have more versatility than Torrance and there's a good chance one will be available in the 2nd round. That would enable them to take a pass rusher with the first pick. I feel like that will be the team's number 1 need going into next season. Jared Verse looked very good last night, but Oklahoma did not have their top linemen like Anton Harrison for this game. I've cooled on Skoronski when I found he is only 294. If true, while he may be a scheme fit in terms of athletic ability, I think he's too light and may have difficulty holding up at the point of attack against bigger DTs/NTs. That's a problem with Fortner. I like what I have read about the guards in this draft, but haven't seen any clear footage of them just yet. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
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(12-30-2022, 06:38 PM)Bullseye Wrote:(12-30-2022, 06:21 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: Beebe definitely would be a possibility as would Andrew Vorhees from USC. The advantage for both is they do have more versatility than Torrance and there's a good chance one will be available in the 2nd round. That would enable them to take a pass rusher with the first pick. I feel like that will be the team's number 1 need going into next season. Jared Verse looked very good last night, but Oklahoma did not have their top linemen like Anton Harrison for this game. Fortner is 6'4" 307. Thats a pretty good sized center. Jason Kelce is the best center in the game and hes 6'3" 295. You dont see many centers over 310. With that said I like versatility but id rather an elite guard than a versatile G/T. You need you backups to be versatile.
Skoronski is my pick, but he will be gone imo by the time it comes to our turn
Won't be surprised if we go with a CB , e.g. ringo
Bored again. Slow day at work. Here's another quick run with us slotted at the 19th pick.
19. Peter Skoronski - OT - Northwestern 50. Emmanuel Forbes - CB - Mississippi State 85. Sam LaPorta - TE - Iowa 120. Zach Harrison - EDGE Rusher - Ohio State 121. Andrew Vorhees - OG - USC 151. Cody Mauch - OT - North Dakota State 164. Zack Kuntz - TE - Old Dominion 195. Keondre Coburn - NT - Texas 204. Deuce Vaughn - RB - Kansas State "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king." (01-07-2023, 11:59 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Bored again. Slow day at work. Here's another quick run with us slotted at the 19th pick. Absolutely LOVE the 3rd and 4th round picks. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (01-07-2023, 11:59 AM)Caldrac Wrote: Bored again. Slow day at work. Here's another quick run with us slotted at the 19th pick. This would be too good to be true. The 1st 6 picks are home-runs! Seriously doubt Skoronski, Vorhees and Mauch will go this late, but I'd sign up for this group right now.
01-07-2023, 05:40 PM
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Used FanSpeak this time, it's a lot more current prospect wise, pretty realistic results here:
19: R1 P19 TE Michael Mayer - Notre Dame 51: R2 P20 CB Emmanuel Forbes - Mississippi State 83: R3 P20 DL Gervon Dexter - Florida 122: R4 P20 CB Riley Moss - Iowa 123: R4 P21 C Luke Wypler - Ohio State 155: R5 P20 OT Connor Galvin - Baylor 188: R6 P13 EDGE YaYa Diaby - Louisville 195: R6 P20 WR Dontay Demus Jr. - Maryland 207: R6 P32 DL Karl Brooks - Bowling Green 224: R7 P9 RB Kenny McIntosh - Georgia Some of these players I had to dig into. While doing so. The two that came up intrigue wise for me are YaYa Diaby and Karl Brooks. Both are highly productive in the sack column and looked pretty good on film from what I saw. They may help backfill some of the depth we're going to lose with Smoot, Key and Robertson-Harris. Wypler from Ohio State is billed at Center but I think he's a solid prospect for Guard. Can help out like Shatley at Center as well. I also really like that Galvin guy out of Baylor. Pretty tall prospect, would be a good work in and back up behind Little at RT if they don't retain Taylor. Overall I still like my first four selections here. Mayer was BAP there. Getting him to go along with hopefully a tagged Engram gives this offense even more versatility with an incoming Ridley at WR. Forbes was there where I like him in RD2 for us. Dexter is a mountain and could be a nice NT for this defense. Should eventually spell, if not, replace Fatukasi down the road in this scenario. Riley Moss is just too good of a nickel CB prospect with a nose for the endzone to not have on this team in RD4. I think with Griffin being cut, Herndon being a liability and only having Campbell and Williams to really rely on going into 2023 we're going to have to double dip at CB IMHO. Landing Forbes gives you a Diggs type gambler at the position and landing Moss gives you a really sound nickel cover man with special team's ability. Demus Jr. in RD6? Yes, please. McIntosh is a dual threat there in RD7. I know we can probably pick-up a free agent RB that goes undrafted but I think McIntosh production wise, versatility wise and the fact that he's now played in multiple big title games is a good pick up to have on this team. He'll get plenty of action against TCU. Could do far worse in RD7 IMHO. "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king." (01-07-2023, 05:40 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Used FanSpeak this time, it's a lot more current prospect wise, pretty realistic results here:Nice draft class. I like doing these simulations since we learn more about prospects like Diaby and Brooks. We have just moved back to spot 24 on FanSpeak due to the victory over the Chargers. I drafted the following group beginning with pick 24: Round 1: Broderick Jones Round 2: O'Cyrus Torrence Round 3: Derrick Hall Round 4: Sam LaPorta and Tre'devious Hodges-Tomlinson Round 5: Parker Washington Round 6: D.J. Johnson and DeWayne McBride Overall, I'd love to end up with this group. The strength is significantly upgrading the offensive line, although I doubt Jones will be there at pick 24. I would have preferred to take an Edge rusher earlier than round 3 since this will be the number 1 or 2 greatest need following the playoffs. Unfortunately, the Board did not allow me to do this as my philosophy is to take the BAP at positions of need each round. (01-17-2023, 04:02 PM)jaglou53 Wrote:(01-07-2023, 05:40 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Used FanSpeak this time, it's a lot more current prospect wise, pretty realistic results here:Nice draft class. I like doing these simulations since we learn more about prospects like Diaby and Brooks. We have just moved back to spot 24 on FanSpeak due to the victory over the Chargers. I drafted the following group beginning with pick 24: Would be thrilled walking out of this draft with Jones and Torrence to shore up the offensive line. That's a lot of beef up front man. I like it. LaPorta in RD4 out of Iowa seems like a steal to me. Wasn't overly impressed with LT's nephew against the Bulldogs but his overall year was solid for TCU. Parker Washington is a solid WR prospect as well. Good picks! "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king." We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (01-17-2023, 04:54 PM)Caldrac Wrote:(01-17-2023, 04:02 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: Nice draft class. I like doing these simulations since we learn more about prospects like Diaby and Brooks. We have just moved back to spot 24 on FanSpeak due to the victory over the Chargers. I drafted the following group beginning with pick 24: Thanks. Our line has been good with pass protection lately, but they leave a lot to be desired in the run game. That's why I couldn't pass on Torrence in round 2. I agree with you about LaPorta and Washington. LaPorta seems to possess similar traits to Evan Engram in that he seems to always get open and is very good after the catch. Having both he and Engram on the field on passing downs would be tough for defenses to deal with. I was surprised Washington decided to enter the draft since he had another year of eligibility. As a Penn State fan I saw a lot of him and he is a very reliable receiver who could replace Marvin Jones.
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