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Cap space for next season…
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(01-21-2023, 11:04 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:Except Kelce isn’t a very good blocker. He’s average as well.(01-21-2023, 10:44 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: The conventional TE is vastly overrated. There aren’t many conventional TEs in the league anymore and that’s because the game is evolving. Engram is exactly who the Jags need on this team. He’s smart (as evidence by the play he got out of bounds earlier this year), reliable and a very good pass catcher. Mayer will be a popular pick for the Jags this year and that’s fine but they can’t go into next year with just Mayer at TE1. Engram needs to be resigned. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
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(This post was last modified: 01-21-2023, 11:24 PM by TheSchmidt. Edited 2 times in total.)
(01-21-2023, 10:49 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote:(01-21-2023, 10:37 PM)TheSchmidt Wrote: I have no clue what Engram will want in his next contract, but you can't be paying Ridley, Kirk, Jones, and Engram all that money. Paying your 3/4 options in the passing game >$10 million a year ain't how you build a team. yes, it hard to see Jones on this team after next year but we gotta worry about this year first Here is where stand. -$20 million over the cap -Can get it to $7 million under with cuts of Jenkins, Griffin, and RRH. Those are really the only viable options they have that make a dent in the number. That isn't really enough to upgrade the roster or bring back out UFAs (Taylor, Engram, Key, Smoot) Here is what spotrac says we can save with restructures. -Kirk, $9.6 million -Scherff, $6.1 million -Oluokon, $6.5 million -Williams, $4.9 million -Fatukasi, $3.7 million now, I have zero idea if there are more ways to restructure a contract for a player that would save a different amount, but we'll just go with this. In a perfect world three of those guys will restructure to give us some breathing room. But impossible to say. And we can't forget Allen, Hamilton, and Ridley are UFAs in 2024, so they'll need to make sure to leave wiggle room for them. Some tough choices for sure will be made and I'm sure some that will really upset some fans, hopefully Trent doesn't screw it up. (01-21-2023, 11:19 PM)TheSchmidt Wrote:Won't upset me at all as long as they finally do what's right and that's build around it's actual strengths. Premium picks need to go towards the offense.(01-21-2023, 10:49 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: If we extend ridley after rhe 23 season then jones will be cut. Defensively it becomes easier to play the game you want to play when your offense scores so many damn points or can score quickly enough that your opponent is forced into being one dimensional. Bolstering the interior offensive line should be the goal this year. Getting any additional skill players with mismatch potential and speed should be the goal this year. Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk "What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king." (01-21-2023, 10:56 PM)jj82284 Wrote:(01-21-2023, 10:51 PM)Newton Wrote: Engram must be resigned Bruh, Engram is help for #16. He is his #1 or #2 target. You do not take that away.. (01-21-2023, 09:49 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Cuts: I'm on-board with letting Griffin, Chaisson, Claybrooks and Smith walk. Jamal Agnew has been a good player, but I'd also part ways with him to save an additional $4.5 million. That would total $23.5 million in savings. The team will likely end up re-signing Engram and that will likely be an additional hit of $12-$15 million, at the least. Add in another $2.5 million for the rookies and my math says they still need to cut about $15 million more. Question: Is the additional $12 million salary cap for all teams already factored into the Jaguars' number? If not, that brings the number down to only $3 million surplus which could be addressed by re-doing some contracts. If not, it's likely the team will need to cut either RRH or Jenkins. I know both have been somewhat inconsistent, but I'd love to be able to keep both if possible. I'm not sure whom I'd keep between these two if they have to cut one. That will be a tough choice. If the team does something like this, the draft will need to focus on pass rushers and offensive linemen. These appear to be the areas needing the most improvement, along with an additional corner/nickelback. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(01-21-2023, 11:27 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote:(01-21-2023, 10:56 PM)jj82284 Wrote: No. He likely becomes #3 next year with Ridley around. And I'm sure he'll be looking for around $13mil a year. That's just not doable (or wise) for a team so strapped against the cap with other receiving options making so much money. Only way I can see it happening is if they can find a trade partner for Zay Jones.
I think they do the following:
I don't like cutting RRH that's a tough one.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
(01-21-2023, 11:27 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote:(01-21-2023, 10:56 PM)jj82284 Wrote: No. I agree on keeping Engram. Pederson relies on his tight ends to be big part of the offense and no tight end in Jaguars history exceeded his production. If they let him walk, they will need to use a very high draft choice to replace him and I'd rather the team use the draft to address the offensive line and pass rush. I don't see Engram's age (28) being a problem. We saw a 33 year old Travis Kelsey catch 14 passes today and he's not the first tight end of that age to excel. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Can they still roll over left over cap space from 2022, or was that taken out of the last CBA?
See ya: Jenkins, Griffin
Franchise: Jawann Taylor Resign: Engram & Key Restructure whoever to make this happen
(01-21-2023, 10:24 PM)rufftime Wrote: Are we really casually talking about cutting Jenkins and RRH? I get tough decisions are coming, but Christ I don't think you need to cut both but you do need to cut one. We are $20 million over. Griffin saves $13 million. Also cutting RRH gets us under. Jenkins gets us close. Those are the two players with the most savings by cutting. If not them, then what's your plan? The next biggest savings would be Agnew. Do you prefer him? Even if so, he only saves $4 million. Every other player saves less than $2 million. Your other option is to pull a "Coughlin" and just restructure every contract. It's nice for 2023 but screws our future. I think most see this as a team with the potential to be good for many years. It would be dumb to sell out our future for one year. Cutting RRH or Jenkins makes the most sense. Use an early draft pick on a replacement.
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (01-21-2023, 11:51 PM)jaglou53 Wrote:(01-21-2023, 11:27 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: Bruh, Engram is help for #16. He is his #1 or #2 target. You do not take that away.. Kelce is a bully. By that I mean, u get up to press him and he's so strong he breaks the press and gets separation @ the line. Ingram is a Plymouth along the ground receiver. In a perfect world u keep him. He's a good player, but he's not a HOF Talent. Another move TE playing with 16 will put up similar #s (01-22-2023, 12:54 AM)jj82284 Wrote:(01-21-2023, 11:51 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: I agree on keeping Engram. Pederson relies on his tight ends to be big part of the offense and no tight end in Jaguars history exceeded his production. If they let him walk, they will need to use a very high draft choice to replace him and I'd rather the team use the draft to address the offensive line and pass rush. I don't see Engram's age (28) being a problem. We saw a 33 year old Travis Kelsey catch 14 passes today and he's not the first tight end of that age to excel. Maybe not HOF, but hes a top 5 TE and his production will increase with another year in this offense plus only Farrell is under contract Resign Engram and back fill with some late pick and undrafteds (01-22-2023, 01:46 AM)jagshype Wrote:(01-22-2023, 12:54 AM)jj82284 Wrote: Kelce is a bully. By that I mean, u get up to press him and he's so strong he breaks the press and gets separation @ the line. 15 million for 5 catches 31 yards? He's so indispensable where was he? He's a good player, but he's not the guy u break the bank for. Managing the cap is about going out and continuing to find goo players, u find ways to keep the great ones. U draft a kid who runs sub 4.6 and move on. (01-22-2023, 01:52 AM)jj82284 Wrote:(01-22-2023, 01:46 AM)jagshype Wrote: Maybe not HOF, but hes a top 5 TE No, 15 million for 70 catches and 700+ yards. Again, another year in the system and we see an increase in targets and production. You know what youll get out of Engram. The cap hit can be managed to be in the 8 million range for 2023. Dont fear the cap We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
They will have to restructure salaries into bonuses
Plenty of multi year contracts with high salaries to free up cap and push the hits into the future as bonuses (01-22-2023, 01:52 AM)jj82284 Wrote:(01-22-2023, 01:46 AM)jagshype Wrote: Maybe not HOF, but hes a top 5 TE Ah so that's the secret? You simply just draft a kid who runs sub 4.6? Why didn't they tell us it was that easy... |
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