Dude, this team can take shots down the field...  The O-Line still gives Trevor 2 seconds on each pass play and he's in shotgun most of the time... 

I refuse to listen to the weak e excuse that we can't throw deep because the O-Line.  We were throwing deep last year.  And I already showed that least year's O-Line rated very similar to this years O-Line.

2 seconds is plenty of time for a QB like Lawrence.  The TD pass to Ridley on Sunday (which he dropped) was thrown within 2 sends - and Trevor put it right on the money!!!!!!!!  So stop with this stupid notion that our O-Line isn't good enough to allow WRs to get deep.  Additionally, as the defense realizes that the offense has potential to go deep they back  off more.  Finally, Trevor proved last year that if the fly route wasn't there, he was more than capable of finding Engram, or Kirk, in the slot or a crossing route.

I'm just so sick of this weak argument.  We can go deep.  We need to go deep.  Playing the game within 10 yards is killing us.

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they ARE taking shots - they just aren't getting enough protection to take the (probably silly) number you want them to take

You can be sick of cold hard facts staring you in your face all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that out crap o-line is negatively affecting our passing game at times. It is. You're gonna have to accept that eventually. 

It isn't killing us, and it isn't going to keep us from taking shots, but you can bet your [BLEEP] that our staff is going to be smart about not getting Trevor killed. We're totally screwed if he goes down.

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Dude, this team can take shots down the field...  The O-Line still gives Trevor 2 seconds on each pass play and he's in shotgun most of the time... 

I refuse to listen to the weak e excuse that we can't throw deep because the O-Line.  We were throwing deep last year.  And I already showed that least year's O-Line rated very similar to this years O-Line.

2 seconds is plenty of time for a QB like Lawrence.  The TD pass to Ridley on Sunday (which he dropped) was thrown within 2 sends - and Trevor put it right on the money!!!!!!!!  So stop with this stupid notion that our O-Line isn't good enough to allow WRs to get deep.  Additionally, as the defense realizes that the offense has potential to go deep they back  off more.  Finally, Trevor proved last year that if the fly route wasn't there, he was more than capable of finding Engram, or Kirk, in the slot or a crossing route.

I'm just so sick of this weak argument.  We can go deep.  We need to go deep.  Playing the game within 10 yards is killing us.

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they ARE taking shots - they just aren't getting enough protection to take the (probably silly) number you want them to take

You can be sick of cold hard facts staring you in your face all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that out crap o-line is negatively affecting our passing game at times. It is. You're gonna have to accept that eventually. 

It isn't killing us, and it isn't going to keep us from taking shots, but you can bet your [BLEEP] that our staff is going to be smart about not getting Trevor killed. We're totally screwed if he goes down.

For all those currently breathing in a paper bag. flgatorsandjags posted a breakdown of TL's plays.  It should be required watching for these guys.

Best comment I heard was on 1010. It was said because of the line situation it has caused the "speed up" of the plays called and TL's internal clock. I do hope these guys complaining are not suggesting he take the same tack as Burrows did when he  got knocked out.

https://twitter.com/pff/status/170747023...-VtZB6L1eA

please forgive the reposting.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

What we're seeing this year so far, is what people were claiming to be the case in 2021. This year, the surronding talent has let Trevor down. He's played solid ball.

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Dude, this team can take shots down the field...  The O-Line still gives Trevor 2 seconds on each pass play and he's in shotgun most of the time... 

I refuse to listen to the weak e excuse that we can't throw deep because the O-Line.  We were throwing deep last year.  And I already showed that least year's O-Line rated very similar to this years O-Line.

2 seconds is plenty of time for a QB like Lawrence.  The TD pass to Ridley on Sunday (which he dropped) was thrown within 2 sends - and Trevor put it right on the money!!!!!!!!  So stop with this stupid notion that our O-Line isn't good enough to allow WRs to get deep.  Additionally, as the defense realizes that the offense has potential to go deep they back  off more.  Finally, Trevor proved last year that if the fly route wasn't there, he was more than capable of finding Engram, or Kirk, in the slot or a crossing route.

I'm just so sick of this weak argument.  We can go deep.  We need to go deep.  Playing the game within 10 yards is killing us.

LOL

they ARE taking shots - they just aren't getting enough protection to take the (probably silly) number you want them to take

You can be sick of cold hard facts staring you in your face all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that out crap o-line is negatively affecting our passing game at times. It is. You're gonna have to accept that eventually. 

It isn't killing us, and it isn't going to keep us from taking shots, but you can bet your [BLEEP] that our staff is going to be smart about not getting Trevor killed. We're totally screwed if he goes down.

Bruh, you've spent 2 weeks telling everyone that we cannot run a WR deep because of the O-Line.

I just pointed out that he has time enough to go deep.  That's all.  It's not like I'm screaming that we need to go deep on every play.  Because I think we need a deep route every play doesn't mean I want Trevor to go deep every play.  Do you even football?  You have to constantly put pressure on the D that you have the ability to go deep.  Not that you are going deep every time.  Jesus, bro.  Do you just assume that everyone is a moron and you are the GOD of the FORUM?  

This offense won't be successful if we only run 10 yard routes.  And it's obvious that our O-Line can protect long enough to stretch the field.  And better yet, we have a potential GREAT QB that can hit the deep routes.  The offensive scheme needs to press the Defense.  Yeah, we have a great RB.  But we also have a potentially great QB.  So running one 1st down 90% of the time in the first half isn't a great idea.  You gotta mix it up.  I mean, that's what other NFL offenses do...  Certain offenses even execute passing plays for 3 downs in a row!!!  Imagine that!!!  We're so vanilla that most defenses aren't forced to make adjustments.  We aren't pressuring defenses.  Sorry, but that's the truth.

The fact that we aren't pressuring the defense is a main reason we are 1-2.

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they ARE taking shots - they just aren't getting enough protection to take the (probably silly) number you want them to take

You can be sick of cold hard facts staring you in your face all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that out crap o-line is negatively affecting our passing game at times. It is. You're gonna have to accept that eventually. 

It isn't killing us, and it isn't going to keep us from taking shots, but you can bet your [BLEEP] that our staff is going to be smart about not getting Trevor killed. We're totally screwed if he goes down.

Bruh, you've spent 2 weeks telling everyone that we cannot run a WR deep because of the O-Line.

I just pointed out that he has time enough to go deep.  That's all.  It's not like I'm screaming that we need to go deep on every play.  Because I think we need a deep route every play doesn't mean I want Trevor to go deep every play.  Do you even football?  You have to constantly put pressure on the D that you have the ability to go deep.  Not that you are going deep every time.  Jesus, bro.  Do you just assume that everyone is a moron and you are the GOD of the FORUM?  

This offense won't be successful if we only run 10 yard routes.  And it's obvious that our O-Line can protect long enough to stretch the field.  And better yet, we have a potential GREAT QB that can hit the deep routes.  The offensive scheme needs to press the Defense.  Yeah, we have a great RB.  But we also have a potentially great QB.  So running one 1st down 90% of the time in the first half isn't a great idea.  You gotta mix it up.  I mean, that's what other NFL offenses do...  Certain offenses even execute passing plays for 3 downs in a row!!!  Imagine that!!!  We're so vanilla that most defenses aren't forced to make adjustments.  We aren't pressuring defenses.  Sorry, but that's the truth.

The fact that we aren't pressuring the defense is a main reason we are 1-2.

I don't have to assume when you make it apparent in every post. 

Also - your first sentence is complete horse [BLEEP]. 
I haven't tried to tell anyone that we can't run deep. 
We are running deep. Just not often enough to suit several fans posting here. 
I've merely tried to explain to that subset of fans begging for more deep stuff - that more of it will be a danger to the health of our QB. A danger we probably shouldn't risk. 

They will continue taking some shots just like they have  - and they'll start hitting on them a bit more soon enough. 
Then the whiners will whine less.

Here's a great example for you since you clearly need pictures and bright red script to learn from.
After the Jags threw a perfect deep strike for a would-be touchdown (dropped) , they came back the very next drive and were about to hit a big one if it weren't for - wait for it - pressure on the QB. 

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And here is a zoom from the play above showing WHY Lawrence HAD to go short instead of deep

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And here is a zoom from the play above showing WHY Lawrence HAD to go short instead of deep

That one is infuriating. Bartch got schooled and Lawrence got decked for it.

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And here is a zoom from the play above showing WHY Lawrence HAD to go short instead of deep

That one is infuriating. Bartch got schooled and Lawrence got decked for it.

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And it's a minimum 20 yard gain to Kirk or a probable TD to Engram if TL has half a second more time to make the reads. 

Instead - one more hit to our QB and a dump off short of the sticks. 

This is happening multiple times in every game so far. I don't think TL lasts the season at this pace of punishment. These hits are gonna begin to have a cumulative effect eventually.

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That one is infuriating. Bartch got schooled and Lawrence got decked for it.

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And it's a minimum 20 yard gain to Kirk or a probable TD to Engram if TL has half a second more time to make the reads. 

Instead - one more hit to our QB and a dump off short of the sticks. 

This is happening multiple times in every game so far. I don't think TL lasts the season at this pace of punishment. These hits are gonna begin to have a cumulative effect eventually.

Mentally and physically.

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That one is infuriating. Bartch got schooled and Lawrence got decked for it.

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And it's a minimum 20 yard gain to Kirk or a probable TD to Engram if TL has half a second more time to make the reads. 

Instead - one more hit to our QB and a dump off short of the sticks. 

This is happening multiple times in every game so far. I don't think TL lasts the season at this pace of punishment. These hits are gonna begin to have a cumulative effect eventually.

It's why the game plan clearly is designed around the understanding that the ball has to be out FAST.

By Baalke's off-season spent whistling past the line graveyard the Jaguars nullified their greatest strength.

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And it's a minimum 20 yard gain to Kirk or a probable TD to Engram if TL has half a second more time to make the reads. 

Instead - one more hit to our QB and a dump off short of the sticks. 

This is happening multiple times in every game so far. I don't think TL lasts the season at this pace of punishment. These hits are gonna begin to have a cumulative effect eventually.

It's why the game plan clearly is designed around the understanding that the ball has to be out FAST.

By Baalke's off-season spent whistling past the line graveyard the Jaguars nullified their greatest strength.

You are correct. I mean - I wouldn't say "nullified" necessarily - but definitely "hamstrung" at the least.

Oh - and to the posters earlier in this thread who were saying more play action is the answer:

I looked up the stat.
The Jags have run 15 play action plays in 3 games. 
That's tied for 12th in the league.
That is more than enough for a team with 3 offensive linemen who couldn't block their way out of a wet paper bag. 
I'm surprised that number isn't lower.

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